Barnwell predicts next 10 HoF classes

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Again, ESPN's paywall is for viewers using a US IP address. If you use a European IP setting on your VPN you won't be blocked.
 

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I don't agree with Eli Manning as a 1st ballot HoF. There's only room for 80 new members in a decade. That includes earlier generation players, coaches, and contributors. Given the other QBs going in in the next 10 years, (Brady, Brees, Roethlisberger, and Rodgers). I don't want to get into a debate over Wilson. Additionally up to 9 WRs will be going in. I don't think the HoF can spare the entrance space for Eli Manning. Philip Rivers may have the same problem.
 

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Hard to ignore Manning’s two rings.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Wagner is the only player from tbe OP to make it in. Everyone else had careers that were too short.

Two rings would have made a huge difference for all of them. A three peat would have made them a shoe in.
 

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Dont think Thomas or Russ make it.

Earl destriyed his career pist LOB, in and iff the field. I think when folks look back, theyll see him as a guy who was incredible for 5 years when he was next to Chancellorand coached by Pete, but wasnt even a shadow of that player when he stepped away. And sadly, folks will remember the cancer he became in Baltimore, and his legal issues more than they will the injuries that hampered him late in his career.

Russ? Nuff said on him.

I'm concerned Chancellor gets snubbed like Easley did and has to wait 20 years because he was robbed of a complete career. But then again, Kenny never won an Owl.
 

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Both Sherm and Earl were named to the All-Decade team, Earl had 7 PB appearances, Sherm 5. Both were named 1st team All Pro three times, so I think both get in. Beast is more of a question mark, was named first team All Pro just once but was named to the All-Decade team. Kam's resume is a little thinner and career shorter. I don't think he'll get in.

Barring an MVP-quality season with Pittsburgh, I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell that Russell gets in. He was borderline HOF a year or so before he left, but his stock has dropped like a rock since.
 

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Wilson has 9 ProBowl appearances. With 2 or 3 exceptions every player with 8 or more ProBowls has gotten in. 5 ProBowls and 2 All-pros is borderline. It's a bit different for QBs because a higher percentage of starters get voted to ProBowls. For reference Rivers has 8, Ryan and E. Manning each have 4. Heck, Andy Dalton has 3 and no-one thinks he's getting in. I'm not saying E. Manning won't get in, maybe even 1st time eligible, but it's debatable.
 

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Eli won 2 Owls in NY. He's getting in quickly.
 

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Russ should make it easy based on historical precedence. People don't like it but he should. His resume is much better than many QB's in already. He should be a lock. 9 pro bowls, 2 SB's, a SB win and his efficiency for his career is near best all time until Mahomes blows everyone away.

Manning is interesting. I don't feel like he's ever been a HOF but he does have a few marks on his resume that people usually use. I just don't feel like he was ever even a top 5 guy at his position while in the league?
 

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It's insane to me that there are actually people, let alone Seahawks fans, who think Earl Thomas won't make the HOF. Almost unquestionably considered the best safety of his era, arguably the best player on an iconic defense, has five All-Pros (3 1st team, 2 2nd team), seven Pro-Bowls, and the All-Decade Team. Yeah, he didn't leave the game on the best terms, but I doubt it costs him more than maybe a ballot or two. Nobody with his resume is getting left out, and he's not losing it just because he got a little weird and alienated teammates at the end. He's in. Easily.

Kam has zero chance. Two second-team All-Pros is nowhere near enough. On PFR's HOF monitor, the average HOF DB is a 98.0. The lowest rating for anyone currently in the HOF strictly as a player (Dick LeBeau is technically the lowest, but his coaching success is a big part of that) is Emmitt Thomas at 52.85, who was a senior nominee 30 years after he last played. He had a successful post-playing career as an assistant too though; I don't know enough to say how much that played into it. Anyway, after him, the next lowest is Ken Riley at 54.85. Chancellor is at 32.33. Notable retired safeties ranked higher include Roy Williams, Antoine Bethea, Bob Sanders, Samari Rolle, Todd Lyght, and Brock Marion. He's not getting in.

Lynch is a borderline case. His stats and accolades lag behind his better contemporaries some, but he'll get in when the voters remember that inductees get to make a speech.
 

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Yeah, Russ gets in. He will have to wait though. No first ballot for him.
 

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I think Wilson may have screwed his chances at Denver. Thomas career was too short and ended bad. Agree with the rest.

Chancellor could have been if not for injury. Wonder if he could in the future like Easley did.

Pete likely will. Would have been a lock if he had got that second ring but for a spell the seahawks were a perennial play off team under him. Changed the game for a spell with the tall corners etc.
 

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One “no-brainer” Marshall Lynch run for a touchdown and nobody, and I mean nobody on this board would be questioning whether or not Russell Wilson should be in the Hall of Fame!
 

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Of course, it is called the Hall of FAME and Beastmode hated the spotlight whereas RCW seeks attention as if a Kardashian.
It's difficult for me to believe that someone hates the spotlight when they have 22 acting credits on IMDb, and have starred in numerous commercials.

It is different than Russ though. Russ uses the camera to perpetuate an image he wants other people to have for him. Beast just likes to entertain.
 

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One “no-brainer” Marshall Lynch run for a touchdown and nobody, and I mean nobody on this board would be questioning whether or not Russell Wilson should be in the Hall of Fame!
Wow. Take the ball out of Russ' hands, give it to Marshawn, and it's RUSS who is then a lock for the HOF? I disagree - if Marshawn runs it in, then it is HIM who is no longer a borderline hall of famer. "Two SBs and you won one with a hard fought run into the end zone? Here's your yellow jacket, sir."
 

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Manning is interesting. I don't feel like he's ever been a HOF but he does have a few marks on his resume that people usually use. I just don't feel like he was ever even a top 5 guy at his position while in the league?
One of my personal questions for this is whether the player was in the top 2 or 3 for his position for any length of his career, meaning more than one year. Eli doesn't meet that criteria. Eli is the classic QB who gets too much credit for his team's wins.
 

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Eli was absolutely phenomenal in those two playoff runs. I'm not saying he should definitely get in because the vast majority of his resume is average at best, but I wouldnt say he was carried by anyone.
 
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