Bad take, Cam

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He worked hard for that MVP and is just accepting things for what they are. People are overblowing these comments.

Always nice to hear athletes not give the canned answers to things anyway.
 

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He worked hard for that MVP and is just accepting things for what they are. People are overblowing these comments.

Always nice to hear athletes not give the canned answers to things anyway.
Not overblowing anything.

Football is a team sport and all the “great ones” give credit to those that helped them get the accolades they receive.

Valuing an individual award over winning a World Championship as a team member speaks volumes about the individual.

I lost any respect I had for him as an athlete when I saw him coward away from trying to recover that fumble.

Go play tennis or golf if you don’t want to be part of a team is my opinion.
 

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Not overblowing anything.

Football is a team sport and all the “great ones” give credit to those that helped them get the accolades they receive.

Valuing an individual award over winning a World Championship as a team member speaks volumes about the individual.

I lost any respect I had for him as an athlete when I saw him coward away from trying to recover that fumble.

Go play tennis or golf if you don’t want to be part of a team is my opinion.
Well said. I agree completely.
 

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Not overblowing anything.

Football is a team sport and all the “great ones” give credit to those that helped them get the accolades they receive.

Valuing an individual award over winning a World Championship as a team member speaks volumes about the individual.

I lost any respect I had for him as an athlete when I saw him coward away from trying to recover that fumble.

Go play tennis or golf if you don’t want to be part of a team is my opinion.
I think there's a big difference between asking someone something like this years after they've retired though. I'll bet if he had been asked while he was still playing and had time to add to his legacy, he probably gives the canned answer you always hear "yeah, the MVP was great, but I'm here to win championships" or something like that. Now, Cam's career has been over for some time and nothing he can do will change what happened. Often, you see people in that position reflect and rationalize. Maybe he didn't accomplish everything he wanted to, but all he can do now is accept it, tell himself he did the best he could, and try to be happy with what he did and what he still has. I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone go through awful things, even if they were at fault for those things, and say "That sucked, but because of that... blah blah blah, and I wouldn't trade it for anything". Is it rationalizing? Yes, but I don't think it makes someone inherently selfish.

I don't know what happened with the whole fumble thing. What I can say though, is that Cam was the antithesis of a QB who shyed away from contact. His style of play opened up his body to more punishment than any quarterback I can remember. I have a hard time believing that a guy who had been a winner in every step of his playing life chose THAT time and place, on the biggest stage, to finally decide he didn't want to take a hit. I think he just froze up for whatever reason. I don't know. These things happen fast and you only get one shot.

I don't think the people commenting in this thread actually watched the video. He makes some decent points. Basically what he's saying that it's a team game and everyone has to do their part of the team is going to win. Being named MVP gives him validation that he did his part for the entire season. That speaks to the constant pressure he's under. He has always been the guy asked to carry the team, and never the Dilfer type who just had to not screw up.

It's not anywhere near as black and white as the headline suggests.
 

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I think there's a big difference between asking someone something like this years after they've retired though. I'll bet if he had been asked while he was still playing and had time to add to his legacy, he probably gives the canned answer you always hear "yeah, the MVP was great, but I'm here to win championships" or something like that. Now, Cam's career has been over for some time and nothing he can do will change what happened. Often, you see people in that position reflect and rationalize. Maybe he didn't accomplish everything he wanted to, but all he can do now is accept it, tell himself he did the best he could, and try to be happy with what he did and what he still has. I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone go through awful things, even if they were at fault for those things, and say "That sucked, but because of that... blah blah blah, and I wouldn't trade it for anything". Is it rationalizing? Yes, but I don't think it makes someone inherently selfish.

I don't know what happened with the whole fumble thing. What I can say though, is that Cam was the antithesis of a QB who shyed away from contact. His style of play opened up his body to more punishment than any quarterback I can remember. I have a hard time believing that a guy who had been a winner in every step of his playing life chose THAT time and place, on the biggest stage, to finally decide he didn't want to take a hit. I think he just froze up for whatever reason. I don't know. These things happen fast and you only get one shot.

I don't think the people commenting in this thread actually watched the video. He makes some decent points. Basically what he's saying that it's a team game and everyone has to do their part of the team is going to win. Being named MVP gives him validation that he did his part for the entire season. That speaks to the constant pressure he's under. He has always been the guy asked to carry the team, and never the Dilfer type who just had to not screw up.

It's not anywhere near as black and white as the headline suggests.
Fair enough, we’re both entitled to our opinions.
 

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I think there's a big difference between asking someone something like this years after they've retired though. I'll bet if he had been asked while he was still playing and had time to add to his legacy, he probably gives the canned answer you always hear "yeah, the MVP was great, but I'm here to win championships" or something like that. Now, Cam's career has been over for some time and nothing he can do will change what happened. Often, you see people in that position reflect and rationalize. Maybe he didn't accomplish everything he wanted to, but all he can do now is accept it, tell himself he did the best he could, and try to be happy with what he did and what he still has. I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone go through awful things, even if they were at fault for those things, and say "That sucked, but because of that... blah blah blah, and I wouldn't trade it for anything". Is it rationalizing? Yes, but I don't think it makes someone inherently selfish.

I don't know what happened with the whole fumble thing. What I can say though, is that Cam was the antithesis of a QB who shyed away from contact. His style of play opened up his body to more punishment than any quarterback I can remember. I have a hard time believing that a guy who had been a winner in every step of his playing life chose THAT time and place, on the biggest stage, to finally decide he didn't want to take a hit. I think he just froze up for whatever reason. I don't know. These things happen fast and you only get one shot.

I don't think the people commenting in this thread actually watched the video. He makes some decent points. Basically what he's saying that it's a team game and everyone has to do their part of the team is going to win. Being named MVP gives him validation that he did his part for the entire season. That speaks to the constant pressure he's under. He has always been the guy asked to carry the team, and never the Dilfer type who just had to not screw up.

It's not anywhere near as black and white as the headline suggests.
Excellently stated.
 
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I dont know what kind of teammate he was but he came across as a big cry baby who didn't appear to be much of a leader on the field. Not jumping on that ball was very telling...I can see why he would rather have individual accolades.
 
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Cam decided he wasn't done showing off his horrible, immature mentality. Here's an excerpt from an interview he did with Travis Hunter.

"Newton, in an appearance on Colorado wide receiver/cornerback Travis Hunter's podcast, "The Travis Hunter Show," last week leading up to the Super Bowl, spoke about the pressures Hunter might face if he's selected as the top pick in the 2025 NFL draft.

"You could potentially be the first pick, but, bro, you have no way of impacting the game the way a quarterback does," Newton said on the podcast. "You can lock down the No. 1 receiver. You can make impact plays on offense all you want but it's still not like a quarterback. My issue is that, when I was the first pick, I went into a locker room of losers. Just honest. Guys didn't know how to win; guys didn't know how to prepare. They didn't take themselves serious to realize we was 2-14. There was a lot of 2-14 in the mentality of those guys."


I only feel bad for his teammates not getting a ring, but I'm sure glad this buffoon with his loser mentality doesn't have one.
 
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