He better hope that Justin Smith stays healthy, because we all saw that Aldon is absolutely nothing without Justin holding half the line.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/clark ... limb-to-30
JSeahawks wrote:He better hope that Justin Smith stays healthy, because we all saw that Aldon is absolutely nothing without Justin holding half the line.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/clark ... limb-to-30
TheGOAT#80 wrote:JSeahawks wrote:He better hope that Justin Smith stays healthy, because we all saw that Aldon is absolutely nothing without Justin holding half the line.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/clark ... limb-to-30
It wasn't just the absence of Justin Smith. Aldon was playing with a torn labrum for 2 months and had surgery after the season ended.
TheGOAT#80 wrote:JSeahawks wrote:He better hope that Justin Smith stays healthy, because we all saw that Aldon is absolutely nothing without Justin holding half the line.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/clark ... limb-to-30
It wasn't just the absence of Justin Smith. Aldon was playing with a torn labrum for 2 months and had surgery after the season ended.
Fudwamper wrote:TheGOAT#80 wrote:JSeahawks wrote:He better hope that Justin Smith stays healthy, because we all saw that Aldon is absolutely nothing without Justin holding half the line.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/clark ... limb-to-30
It wasn't just the absence of Justin Smith. Aldon was playing with a torn labrum for 2 months and had surgery after the season ended.
You keep telling yourself that. All will be fine.
TheGOAT#80 wrote:Fudwamper wrote:TheGOAT#80 wrote:[quote="JSeahawks"]He better hope that Justin Smith stays healthy, because we all saw that Aldon is absolutely nothing without Justin holding half the line.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/clark ... limb-to-30
It wasn't just the absence of Justin Smith. Aldon was playing with a torn labrum for 2 months and had surgery after the season ended.
You keep telling yourself that. All will be fine.
JSeahawks wrote:He better hope that Justin Smith stays healthy, because we all saw that Aldon is absolutely nothing without Justin holding half the line.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/clark ... limb-to-30
lvnginhwktwn wrote:So he has a goal, if he makes 30 great, if he only comes close that's great too. I would rather have a player with high expectations of himself and possibly a little over confident, than have one with a lack of confidence.
TheGOAT#80 wrote:JSeahawks wrote:He better hope that Justin Smith stays healthy, because we all saw that Aldon is absolutely nothing without Justin holding half the line.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/clark ... limb-to-30
It wasn't just the absence of Justin Smith. Aldon was playing with a torn labrum for 2 months and had surgery after the season ended.
heyu123 wrote:Yep, it was all Justin Smith. I lost track of the number of 20 sack DEs he's created in Cincy and SF pre-Aldon.
Lady Talon wrote:Ridiculous is ridiculous. Whatever the reasons.Aldon didn't say he would get 30 sacks anyways. The interviewer just asked him what he thought the absolute ceiling for a sack record would be. Aldon said 30, Jared Allen said 25. The only claim he made was that he was a candidate to break the sack record. Which isn't outrageous since with all those Justin Smith triple holds last year he was on track to beat it.
RolandDeschain wrote:heyu123 wrote:Yep, it was all Justin Smith. I lost track of the number of 20 sack DEs he's created in Cincy and SF pre-Aldon.
So, since he has only earned Pro Bowls and All Pros while in San Francisco, he doesn't deserve them then? I mean, since he didn't do anything in Cincy, and all; and he couldn't have improved over time in his career, or anything.
heyu123 wrote:Yep, it was all Justin Smith. I lost track of the number of 20 sack DEs he's created in Cincy and SF pre-Aldon.
Shadowhawk wrote:TheGOAT#80 wrote:JSeahawks wrote:He better hope that Justin Smith stays healthy, because we all saw that Aldon is absolutely nothing without Justin holding half the line.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/clark ... limb-to-30
It wasn't just the absence of Justin Smith. Aldon was playing with a torn labrum for 2 months and had surgery after the season ended.
Smith's first appearance on the injury report with a shoulder problem that turned out to be his torn labrum was week 12. In weeks 12-14 he notched 4.5 sacks. Week 15 against the Patriots was the game when Justin Smith got hurt. Aldon Smith didn't get another sack in the regular season or playoffs.
It seems clear that Justin Smith's absence hampered Aldon Smith a lot more than his shoulder.
NinerLifer wrote:Wow, I imagine that if Avril made a claim that he was setting 30 sacks as his goal for next season this place would explode with "BEAST!!!", "I have all the confidence that he can do it too!", "CHAMPIONSHIP!!
Talk about makin something out of nothing guys, but I guess you need to do what you need to do.
Marvin49 wrote:The stuff peeps say about Aldon is just silly.
How many other players have played next to Justin and had 33.5 sacks in 2 years? How many other players have their been in NFL history who were as good as Justin and had a guy next to him have 33.5 sacks over his first 2 seasons?
Look...Justin is really good and there is no doubt that his presence is beneficial to Aldon, but the way people write off a guy who has more sacks through his first 2 seasons than Reggie White and Derrick Thomas is rediculous.
Justin is DAMN good....but he isn't so good that he can make an average player break all time records.
RolandDeschain wrote:Marvin, regardless of whatever you say, Aldon had good sack numbers after getting his injury while Justin was still playing, then when Justin went out, he hit a cold streak of getting none for what, 5 straight games through the Super Bowl? After averaging 2 per game?
RolandDeschain wrote:Nobody's saying Aldon is worthless on his own. Everyone's wondering just how much of an impact Justin has on him, is all. Non-49ers fans look at the evidence and think "quite a bit", 49ers fans look in the mirror and think "very little".
RolandDeschain wrote:I was referring to only this thread.
Marvin49 wrote:RolandDeschain wrote:Nobody's saying Aldon is worthless on his own. Everyone's wondering just how much of an impact Justin has on him, is all. Non-49ers fans look at the evidence and think "quite a bit", 49ers fans look in the mirror and think "very little".
Well...that may be what YOU are saying, but I've had other conversation with fans of other teams who pretty much say he's a fraud.
People take the Justin Smith got hurt thing and just run with it.
RolandDeschain wrote:With having to face Russell Wilson's scrambling ability twice per year, I'm not so sure about that. I'll be curious to see how he plays this season.
Giedi wrote:With another year in Pete's system, I think any defense that will want to put pressure on Wilson via Blitz is playing russian roulette, and he'll just hit the hot reciever time and time again. I think the only way to play Wilson is a basic 4 man rush, and contain him, and play good coverage on the backside. Even then, he'll still make plays though.
RolandDeschain wrote:I was referring to only this thread.
Giedi wrote:RolandDeschain wrote:With having to face Russell Wilson's scrambling ability twice per year, I'm not so sure about that. I'll be curious to see how he plays this season.
Wilson is a talent. A D LIne has to play solid throughout the line for them to have a chance to stop Wilson. It's critical for the DT to have push up the middle and for a DE to close off the escape routes. Still, Wilson can escape to the other side if the other half of the D Line lose contain. With another year in Pete's system, I think any defense that will want to put pressure on Wilson via Blitz is playing russian roulette, and he'll just hit the hot reciever time and time again. I think the only way to play Wilson is a basic 4 man rush, and contain him, and play good coverage on the backside. Even then, he'll still make plays though.
Young2Rice wrote:Giedi wrote:RolandDeschain wrote:With having to face Russell Wilson's scrambling ability twice per year, I'm not so sure about that. I'll be curious to see how he plays this season.
Wilson is a talent. A D LIne has to play solid throughout the line for them to have a chance to stop Wilson. It's critical for the DT to have push up the middle and for a DE to close off the escape routes. Still, Wilson can escape to the other side if the other half of the D Line lose contain. With another year in Pete's system, I think any defense that will want to put pressure on Wilson via Blitz is playing russian roulette, and he'll just hit the hot reciever time and time again. I think the only way to play Wilson is a basic 4 man rush, and contain him, and play good coverage on the backside. Even then, he'll still make plays though.
Trying to tackle Wilson is frustrating to watch.
RolandDeschain wrote:I can't help it. I have to troll the resident 49ers fans. Don't take it personally, guys. Wilson's ability to scramble around and just sidestep pursuers is ridiculous, haha.
RolandDeschain wrote:I can't help it. I have to troll the resident 49ers fans. Don't take it personally, guys. Wilson's ability to scramble around and just sidestep pursuers is ridiculous, haha.
Scottemojo wrote:Clearly, if Aldon didn't have that torn labrum he would have sacked Wilson on that play.
Marvin49 wrote:Scottemojo wrote:Clearly, if Aldon didn't have that torn labrum he would have sacked Wilson on that play.
....and clearly if Justin Smith had played that day Aldon would have gotten the sack.
Scottemojo wrote:Both are true.
I have waited all off season for you to tell the truth. Finally.
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