Tical21 wrote:Music is cyclical. The OP named three bands. How quickly we forget the large amount of terrible music that existed in the 60's and 70's as well. There are a handful of current artists making unbelievable music right now, just as there was then, while most are making crap.
I hear ya bro. Dad spent a lot of money having his Bay City Rollers tattoo burned off...
Fascinating thread. I probably don't have too much to add that hasn't been said by half a dozen people more musically versed than me, but some miscelanious musings.....
Music is kind of like milk straight from the cow. When it's fresh, it's all sort of mixed together in a homogonized liquid. It's only after you take the time to let it settle out that the cream rises to the top.
Look at 90's music (my generation). We all wax poetic about Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, STP, Tool, Wu Tang, The Fugees, Biggie, Nas, The Roots, A Tribe Called Quest, etc... but I remember actually being
in the 90's and while all that great music was
there, you couldn't turn around without hearing the Spin Doctors, Nelly, Ace of Bass, Hansen, Tevin Campbell, Sugar Ray, Limp Bizkit, Creed, the Venga Boys (remember THAT crap?) and a myriad of other shit music. No different than the 80's; U2, Def Leppard, Skid Row, Gn'R, Maiden, Priest vs. Rick Astley, Wham, Winger, Mr. Big, Kenny Loggins, That guy who sang "Mickey". No different than the 50's, 60's and 70's too. Hopefully
this generation (WTF do you even call it? the zero's? the teens? dafuq?) has some good music that will rise up and stand the test of time.
Look at the movie Dazed and Confused; every song on that soundtrack is a classic. that's because they had the bennefit of hindsight. Look at the soundtrack for Fast Times; more than half of those songs are total ASS. That's because they were living in it and couldn't tell the difference...
I think record labels are an endangered species . Look at Macklemore. He had the #1 song on Billboard for how
long, and his current single is heading for #1 right now (if it isn't there already). What label did he sign with? He signed with "Mackelmore". He said F-you to the "establishment" and sold his wares direct to the consumer over the internet with zero support from a label. Now he's probably one of the biggest stars in music right now and he did it all from his fricken laptop.
I think that's
going to be the future. I suppose Disney and the like will always push their brand of sugary soda pop nonsense at us (more likely our kids) through their TV and movies, but those that know better will learn where to find the real shit. Trouble with that is, everything
will be out there for consumption and I can easily see people get lost in that sea of choice. I think that's going to lead to a new kind of music tour guide rising to prominence; like the radio DJ was up until the late 80's (before the radio stations $old them all out), I can see music bloggers helping people find new shit. People are going to find "a guy" who they identify with (or might even become
that guy for someone else) and follow their links to new good shit. Then from there, trade shit back and forth with your friends like you did in the old days with TDK mix tapes. It's a whole new market, we just need to figure out how it's all going to work. iTunes (yes, i hate hate Apple too iRo, I use 7digital) is going to be the new Polygram
I actually think that when we look back 20 years from now, we're going to see that this was actually a very pivotal time for music. With things like iTunes & YouTube allowing artists access to the world and things like DatPiff & Music Genome (pissed off I can't get that up here anymore) to allow people a means to discover
new music independent of big marketing machines, the kid in his basement is almost on equal footing with the biggest names in the game. All he needs to do is email an MP3 to a few different people and the whole world can buy it from any number of different sources. Because of that, I HOPE we reach a point where it once again becomes only about the music and not all this other superfulous crap. Hopefully the Justin Biebers and crap we're seeing now are just the swan song of that shitty time and real music starts to take the lead again (or it at least finds some kind of balance).
All in all, I think that while the internet has certainly allowed for a lot of shit music to reach the mainstream, it will also be a pretty huge game changer (it already is, but it'll only get bigger). "record labels" are going to be like King Cnut trying to stop the tides before that wave of change. The "music mogal" is likely going to be a thing of the past as a result. Good acts will probably be able to make a really good living (probably even make it "rich") and fewer people will get screwed over by "The Man", but we probably won't see people get "HOVA rich" anymore. If people do make giant money, they'll make it the way the Stones did; big tours and giant stadium shows.
hmmm.... turns out I did have something to add.
Radish, check your PMs. Man upstairs has an invite for a tail gate up in heaven with your name on it.