Maybe you didn't get to enjoy that Giants game. Maybe you didn't get to enjoy the 2005 season. If so, I'm sorry for you because it was truly something special that would be hard to put into words. But don't try to steal that from those of us who were there, who got to experience that magic.
I was there for every game starting in 1993 and ending at the Beast Quake game (havnt had season tickets since then) including all those games you mentioned in 05. I'm not trying to steal anything away from you. You're free to have and keep whatever opinion you want. I'm not trying to change your mind, i'm just voicing my opinion. I wasn't even going to post in this thread until techworlds called me out.
12th man is great. They bring tons of energy to the team. I've never once said otherwise. My only point I've ever tried to make is that A. we're not as important as the team and B. we're not the only fan base that helps their team. I'm not even sure why people have a problem with my opinion as they both seem pretty obvious to me.
Yeah, wasn't trying to question your attendance or fanhood or anything. Apologies if it came across like that. I see your points and they're valid, and pretty obvious. Although, I've been to many many different stadiums and I think we truly do have something special in Seattle.
My two favorite stadiums so far have been Kansas City and Washington. They lived up to the billing. Lots of fun people at the Washington game, had a really good time, they have an amazing tradition there and I saw a couple families where you'd see 4 generations of fans attending the game together (great-grandpa, grandpa, dad and son). I enjoyed their battle song and they have some interesting and unique traditions. Kansas City was really loud and a lot of fun as well, and some great BBQ outside the stadium. Gillette was pretty cool too, the Patriots fans were all far different than I expected - for the most part, they were hospitable and good sports (although we got our butts kicked so I'm sure that's part of it). Minnesota was also pretty cool but their stadium sucks and the fans were really angry and in a bad mood, with lots of them yelling insults at Childress.
However, most of the other places I've been haven't even compared to the Clink. Not even close. The Giants stadium was bizarrely quiet, like a golf game. One of the fans explained the season tickets were insanely expensive so it's generally just the wealthy country club types that can attend (and that's pretty much what I saw). Philly was way more mellow than I expected. San Francisco last year, they were all watching the Giants baseball game on their phones and not even paying attention to the football game. Not nearly as rowdy as I expected.
With few exceptions, I think Seattle has a very different environment than anywhere else. Sure other fans yell and get loud at times. But nowhere have I seen the same intensity, the same belief that you can actually impact the game, the same knowledge of the game, etc. Most crowds don't all get up at once without being prompted and go absolutely nuts on 3rd Down. None of them had a flag raising for the fans. None of them had that same belief in the fans, or the same amount of interaction between team and fans. I think the 12th Man is really special to Seattle, and I love that I get to part of it.