Well, well, well Mayweather took a challenging fight. I'm pretty stoked for this one. Canelo's size gives him a shot, albeit a small shot.
This is great for boxing…
SonicHawk wrote:This isn't a risk for Mayweather. He's one of the greatest actual boxers in the history of boxing. But, Alvarez is better than Guerrero.
pehawk wrote:SonicHawk wrote:This isn't a risk for Mayweather. He's one of the greatest actual boxers in the history of boxing. But, Alvarez is better than Guerrero.
In respect to Mayweather's usual choice in opponents and the weight disparity, yes, its a risk.
-The Glove- wrote:Better than his usual choice of opponents, but I don't give Canelo much of a chance. I've never been sold on the guy. He just seems so vulnerable with a decent fighter with some speed. I remember seeing him have a hard time with Miguel Cotto's bro, Jose Miguel. It is the biggest fight he could have taken at this moment though, so kudos to Mayweather on that.
CALIHAWK1 wrote:-The Glove- wrote:Better than his usual choice of opponents, but I don't give Canelo much of a chance. I've never been sold on the guy. He just seems so vulnerable with a decent fighter with some speed. I remember seeing him have a hard time with Miguel Cotto's bro, Jose Miguel. It is the biggest fight he could have taken at this moment though, so kudos to Mayweather on that.
I feel the same way about almost all the young fighters. Chavez, Canelo, Diaz before he was beat.
The Radish wrote:I'm just delighted to see "real" fighting. This cage crap is so phoney and lacking in skills its boring to watch.
And those arm punches they throw? Lets get them in a ring with a real puncher and see how long they last.
The Radish wrote:I'm just delighted to see "real" fighting. This cage crap is so phoney and lacking in skills its boring to watch.
And those arm punches they throw? Lets get them in a ring with a real puncher and see how long they last.
sadhappy wrote:The Radish wrote:I'm just delighted to see "real" fighting. This cage crap is so phoney and lacking in skills its boring to watch.
And those arm punches they throw? Lets get them in a ring with a real puncher and see how long they last.
Actually that's been done. Several times. Last time was randy coture vs james toney. Short fight. Mma fighters most always win those deals because boxers are one dimensional.
The striking in mma is different because the fighter has to be prepared to defend a much wider variety of attacks than a boxer. Not better or worse just different.
You're wayyyyyy out in left field on this one les.
The Radish wrote:sadhappy wrote:The Radish wrote:I'm just delighted to see "real" fighting. This cage crap is so phoney and lacking in skills its boring to watch.
And those arm punches they throw? Lets get them in a ring with a real puncher and see how long they last.
Actually that's been done. Several times. Last time was randy coture vs james toney. Short fight. Mma fighters most always win those deals because boxers are one dimensional.
The striking in mma is different because the fighter has to be prepared to defend a much wider variety of attacks than a boxer. Not better or worse just different.
You're wayyyyyy out in left field on this one les.
We will have to agree to disagree. If they really want to have so called "cage fighting" then why not allow anything goes and allow full contact. That way you perhaps could see some planning.
To me its just two maulers that must have majored in scrums all their lives.
That's what makes the world go around I guess. and btw I have been a cage fight live and that's how I developed my opinion. I just don't see it but am willing to let you see it how you want.
sadhappy wrote:The Radish wrote:sadhappy wrote:[quote="The Radish"]I'm just delighted to see "real" fighting. This cage crap is so phoney and lacking in skills its boring to watch.
And those arm punches they throw? Lets get them in a ring with a real puncher and see how long they last.
Actually that's been done. Several times. Last time was randy coture vs james toney. Short fight. Mma fighters most always win those deals because boxers are one dimensional.
The striking in mma is different because the fighter has to be prepared to defend a much wider variety of attacks than a boxer. Not better or worse just different.
You're wayyyyyy out in left field on this one les.
We will have to agree to disagree. If they really want to have so called "cage fighting" then why not allow anything goes and allow full contact. That way you perhaps could see some planning.
To me its just two maulers that must have majored in scrums all their lives.
That's what makes the world go around I guess. and btw I have been a cage fight live and that's how I developed my opinion. I just don't see it but am willing to let you see it how you want.
sadhappy wrote:The Radish wrote:I'm just delighted to see "real" fighting. This cage crap is so phoney and lacking in skills its boring to watch.
And those arm punches they throw? Lets get them in a ring with a real puncher and see how long they last.
Actually that's been done. Several times. Last time was randy coture vs james toney. Short fight. Mma fighters most always win those deals because boxers are one dimensional.
The striking in mma is different because the fighter has to be prepared to defend a much wider variety of attacks than a boxer. Not better or worse just different.
You're wayyyyyy out in left field on this one les.
-The Glove- wrote:
Honestly the history of the UFC and how it all came about and how it evolved is pretty fascinating stuff. The original idea was to take world class practitioners from all the major fighting disciplines, put them in a tournament, and see which fighting style was the best. And, as it turns out, this little tiny dude in a GI by the name of Royce Gracie used ju jitsu to defeat all of his opponents and win the UFC 1 title, a no holds barred competition with no weight classes.
The Radish wrote:I'm just delighted to see "real" fighting. This cage crap is so phoney and lacking in skills its boring to watch.
And those arm punches they throw? Lets get them in a ring with a real puncher and see how long they last.
Shaz wrote:The Radish wrote:I'm just delighted to see "real" fighting. This cage crap is so phoney and lacking in skills its boring to watch.
And those arm punches they throw? Lets get them in a ring with a real puncher and see how long they last.
You have no idea on what you're talking about and honestly you should let the people that know real fighting and actually have done it speak about what's real or not instead of someone that decides to spew their ignorance about a subject they are foreign to
The Radish wrote:Shaz wrote:The Radish wrote:I'm just delighted to see "real" fighting. This cage crap is so phoney and lacking in skills its boring to watch.
And those arm punches they throw? Lets get them in a ring with a real puncher and see how long they last.
You have no idea on what you're talking about and honestly you should let the people that know real fighting and actually have done it speak about what's real or not instead of someone that decides to spew their ignorance about a subject they are foreign to
Really? Well a long time boxing fan and I can tell you merely by watching that the cage fighters throw mostly arm punches because they are always trying get set up to throw leg punchs.
I've been watching boxing long before Sugar Ray Leonard was a gleam in his Father's eye and Cassisus Clay was an Olympic hopeful. So yes I think I probably know a bit about the subject.
How about you?
The Radish wrote:Shaz wrote:The Radish wrote:I'm just delighted to see "real" fighting. This cage crap is so phoney and lacking in skills its boring to watch.
And those arm punches they throw? Lets get them in a ring with a real puncher and see how long they last.
You have no idea on what you're talking about and honestly you should let the people that know real fighting and actually have done it speak about what's real or not instead of someone that decides to spew their ignorance about a subject they are foreign to
Really? Well a long time boxing fan and I can tell you merely by watching that the cage fighters throw mostly arm punches because they are always trying get set up to throw leg punchs.
I've been watching boxing long before Sugar Ray Leonard was a gleam in his Father's eye and Cassisus Clay was an Olympic hopeful. So yes I think I probably know a bit about the subject.
How about you?
-The Glove- wrote:It's fine to say you don't like it. It's another to say it takes no skill.
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