I love boxing but in a real fight it doesn't hold up to grappling (Wrestling, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Judo, etc....) because whether you want to believe it or not, the fight will hit the ground and boxers have no chance to defend that.
My point exactly! I can see crap like that on any street or school yard daily/weekly.
My point boxing takes an entirely different talent. In fact from my viewpoint your style of fighting takes about as much talent as watching the school yard bullys thrash around on each other.
Also I notice you and a couple of others think its ok to love your style of fighting and have a "Cow Man" at anyone not agreeing with you.
In my case I dislike your style of what you call talented fighting. I think its pure bullshit. But that's my right. I accept you like your stuff, let me have the same privilige. And I didn't think its bad or uneducated or anything of that nature. I said I didn't like it. And whether you like it or not all other kinds of fighting that are being talked about here do not hit as hard as boxers because the only thing they use their entire body for is kicking.
Put one of your fighters in a ring and not allow him to use anything but his fists and he will have a hard time lasting any time at all against a boxer, and more than likely will get put on his knickers. And that's been proven time and time again by people in the sport.
Started years ago when Randall "Tex" Cobb was world champion of full contact decided to try straight boxing. In his words he got the crap knocked out of him because those boxers hit a lot harder than what he was used to.
Many here love Chuck Norris who I think is or maybe was now a days, one of the toughest guys alive. He had the sense to stay out of the boxing ring because they are such different types of combat.
Ok, our old ones fell to 11-2. So its time for a new updated pair.