Aros wrote:Everything I have researched in 25 years points to a collective of Non Human Intelligence that has been able to stay rather stealthy for the most part due to what appears to be technology and a species thousands and perhaps millions of years in advance of our own. Can you imagine if we showed an iPad to someone in the 18th Century? So using that philosophy, suddenly it's not so crazy to imagine Beings that are completely capable of manipulating the very fabric of Time and Space. To render their craft invisible when they want, or defy gravity and all the other known laws of physics. To me, it's completely understandable.
The problem is, most of us assume we are at the top of the hierarchy and technological food chain. That's simpleton talk. One day, this all will be common knowledge. In the meantime we are stuck still debating if we are alone in the Universe. It's a paradox. So maddeningly obvious that we are not, yet understandable why most still wonder.
Cool story, Shark, btw! One thing that I can state as fact is if the government/military needs to keep a secret, they keep a secret.
Thanks, I agree on all points by the way. I think I am kind of looking at this stuff in a bit of the way of "We're only protecting you from yourself, if you knew the truth, it would be too hard to handle." And also, we tend to fear what we don't understand. If we find out we don't understand ourselves and our existence and we're some "experiment", so that create mass suicides and craziness because people feel like they've been duped? Or is that a legit fear if they admit we are not alone? I know this sounds bonkers, and I've never been accused of being sane... but I have never been accused of being crazy either. I'm a loudmouth, but not insane.
I just see too much that adds up. Evidence is evidence. I've seen more of UFO's up close and personal than I ever have angels. That's not to belittle religion, because I am sort of religious. The biggest joke around this place is that I'm the Mormon idiot that lives in Utah and always talks about BYU. I think that belief system sounds a lot crazier than a lot of other theories, but I am ok with that. It works for me. It works for my wife and kids. We're a happy crew. We aren't the "takes orders from supreme authority" types, and people mix up Mormons with Quakers and Amish. We have TV's, internet, houses, cars, normal clothes, and I even drop a few f-bombs now and then and have gotten busted by Les more than a few times. Don't judge my religion on me... I'm just saying it's not as nutty as people think. But take any "belief system" you want and you can find flaws and "weird stuff", and I see the belief in extra-terrestrial life and the fact that there is a lot going on out there as a pretty tame one compared to a lot of beliefs that people have in the majority of the world.
It just seems to get marginalized and mocked, just like that guy was saying in the first video... they debunked and made everybody seem like a dingbat. Why? Why do that if there wasn't some reason to do so? Religions do the same thing. So do cults. So do governments. So do fascist dictators. Everybody has a way of controlling the trouble makers who mix things up.
New and interesting and exciting things are always welcome to me. You mentioned the iPod Aros. Just think of this.... think of every piece of technology you and I use in our homes today and give that stuff to the 10 year old "us" and your mind would be blown. I saw a Commodore PET computer in Kindergarten and thought it was the bee's knees and nothing would ever surpass that crazy contraption. My watch is more powerful than that thing. I heard MIDI music and was blown away by the "realism". Now I hear it and think it sounds like crap. WAV files were the most amazing thing I'd seen. I imagined a day when we had something better and then the MP3 came around. Amazing!
A good conversation to have with a parent or other elder is to ask them all of the things that have been invented in their lifetime. I have had that talk with my mom who is 72 and we really dig into some neat stuff every time. I love it. I had a professor once in college who told us about how his teacher had told them about an amazing new substance called "plastic" and that it was going to change the world. The kids all laughed, and his teacher said, "just you wait and see." We see how that worked out. So in the lifetime of my teacher to me we'd gone to having plastic to where 90% of the crap we have is made of it.
I rule nothing out, and I'm inclined to believe that there's a whole lot more out there. I'll try to let you guys know if the black suits show up at my house and tell me to shut my yap.