Mike Tyson was a bad, bad man

JSeahawks · May 30, 2013

Probably my favorite non team sports athlete of all time. Had to be scary as hell getting into the ring with him. Incredibly intimidating, especially in his early years. At the 23 second mark where the guy is bobbing back n forth and Mike's just following him with his eyes with that look on his face... I would have quit right there.

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pehawk · May 30, 2013

I just love the man. He was a horrible human at times, but I cant help but love him.

"It was the best punch I ever landed...she bounced off the wall like a pinball" ~ Tyson speaking about a fight with Robin Givens. It's so sick, but I love that quote.

chris98251 · May 30, 2013

Joe Frazier in his prime would have ate him up, Ali would have worked him and then KO'ed him, Ken Norton and him would have been a blood bath, both all about the knock out nothing about defense, Larry Holmes would have also let him punch himself out for three rounds and then moved in for the kill ala Buster Douglas.

If you tried to trade blows with Tyson he would eat you up, if you boxed him which there were very few good ones when he was champ you would stand a good chance to win. The hype of his fights would get into opposing boxers head about being able to take a Tyson punch, most would get baited into trying and make a slug fest out of it which Tyson won.

A good fight would have been George Foreman vs Tyson both in their prime, more like a rock um sock um robot contest, George being so tall and long probably wins.

Subzero717 · May 30, 2013

Tysons downfall was Cus dying. We don't really know how his career or life may have ended up if it hadn't of happened when it did. To compare him is unfair. I don't know who would have done what but that is/was the baddest dude I've seen fight in my lifetime.

chris98251 · May 30, 2013

CALIHAWK1":re7xo8r7 said:
Tysons downfall was Cus dying. We don't really know how his career or life may have ended up if it hadn't of happened when it did. To compare him is unfair. I don't know who would have done what but that is/was the baddest dude I've seen fight in my lifetime.

He was a professional boxer, you compare them, I seen a lot of the greats of boxing being around when the sport took off mainstream.

Hawken-Dazs · May 30, 2013

"I'll f*** you 'til you love me!"

Favorite Tyson quote. That man was a beast. He makes Mayweather look like a joke.

JSeahawks · May 30, 2013

"I could feel his muscle tissues collapse under my force. It's ludicrous these mortals even attempt to enter my realm."

pehawk · May 30, 2013

"I'm on the zoloft to keep me from killing y'all!" - Tyson to some scared reporter

bestfightstory · May 30, 2013

Avery sad and troubled person. INCREDIBLE fighter. I can't even evaluate his boxing "skills".

Subzero717 · May 30, 2013

chris98251":2a4r60vz said:
CALIHAWK1":2a4r60vz said:

Tysons downfall was Cus dying. We don't really know how his career or life may have ended up if it hadn't of happened when it did. To compare him is unfair. I don't know who would have done what but that is/was the baddest dude I've seen fight in my lifetime.

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He was a professional boxer, you compare them, I seen a lot of the greats of boxing being around when the sport took off mainstream.

His career derailed early for one. Second comparing any athlete from different eras is silly to me. Athletes are bigger faster stronger. Not to mention how many rounds of rope a dope exactly would Ali have lasted with Tyson?

chris98251 · May 31, 2013

Obviously you never watched him with Foreman, Ali would have had the reach on Tyson also, he would have jabbed and frusterated him to making a mistake. He would have taunted him as well, Tyson would have lost his composure.

In some arenas athletes have got bigger and stronger, does not mean better, Pro Football and Pro Basketball being examples, Pro football you have position specialists now, not long ago most were four down players. NBA has a few one on one players, not team basketball, most players lacking even the ability to make foul shots above 70 percent or play defense. Baseball has also turned into a specialized sport, Used to be common for a guy to pitch complete games, now you have short relief, long releif, closer, and a clean up guy after the closer throws more then 15 pitches. You have guys real good at specifics of the game, not better at the game in my opinion.

Boxing has lost it's audience as well with newer fighting sports, people want the blood and kick the shit out of you that it brings in every fight, those kind of beating are not the norm in Boxing these days.

Msfann · May 31, 2013

The corruption in boxing has hurt it more than anything. You just can't trust the sport right now and that's sad. If they cleaned it up people would watch it again.

Scottemojo · May 31, 2013

chris98251":2cpn45pv said:
Obviously you never watched him with Foreman, Ali would have had the reach on Tyson also, he would have jabbed and frusterated him to making a mistake. He would have taunted him as well, Tyson would have lost his composure.

In some arenas athletes have got bigger and stronger, does not mean better, Pro Football and Pro Basketball being examples, Pro football you have position specialists now, not long ago most were four down players. NBA has a few one on one players, not team basketball, most players lacking even the ability to make foul shots above 70 percent or play defense. Baseball has also turned into a specialized sport, Used to be common for a guy to pitch complete games, now you have short relief, long releif, closer, and a clean up guy after the closer throws more then 15 pitches. You have guys real good at specifics of the game, not better at the game in my opinion.

Boxing has lost it's audience as well with newer fighting sports, people want the blood and kick the shit out of you that it brings in every fight, those kind of beating are not the norm in Boxing these days.

Every single fighter Tyson went against had a reach advantage. Sometimes approaching a foot of wingspan. Tyson may not have had any art to his fights, but playing at art would have gotten him killed. His only way to win was get inside a big man's reach and devastate. Ali would present big problems for Tyson, simply because Ali danced around plodders, though Tyson was a lot faster early on than most remember. But Tyson would give Ali problems, out at arms length Tyson simply did not present much target when his hands were up.

We tend to immortalize Ali because he fought in the golden age of heavies, and Tyson is doubted because he had no worthy opponents. Style wise, I think a fight between the two at their peak would have been ugly. Power vs stamina would have had fans yelling at Ali for 5 rounds to stop running away.

Subzero717 · May 31, 2013

chris98251":1bofsbe3 said:
Boxing has lost it's audience as well with newer fighting sports, people want the blood and kick the shit out of you that it brings in every fight, those kind of beating are not the norm in Boxing these days.

Boxing has lost its audience mostly here in the states. My opinion is because we suck at it. Its the same argument I have for soccer. If we were any good we'd still tune in.

Our great American heavyweight is playing TE or Power Foward. Parents of todays and yesterday children see Ali, Holyfield, Meldrick Taylor and put them in basketball, football, golf. The same will happen to football eventually if tragedies like Seau continue but it will take much longer because football is so deeply rooted in this country and its not competitive outside the states.

As far as MMA goes that's a whole different argument. I think it will pass eventually. It will maintain a cult following but not much beyond that. Everything is almost all PPV. Too many fighters. Watching the same guys fight over and over, which is also a big turn off for Arum fighters in boxing.

Tundra · May 31, 2013

The Thrilla in Manilla! Just watch that fight in its entirety and you will see there is no way Tyson would have survived in the ring with those two. Don't get me wrong I grew up in my teens watching Tyson knock people out in 30 seconds or less and it was great, but after watching the three Ali-Frazier fight's in their entirety, I don't think he would of survived past 6 rounds against either of them. JMHO

SmokinHawk · May 31, 2013

Scottemojo":22q6cpf2 said:
chris98251":22q6cpf2 said:

Obviously you never watched him with Foreman, Ali would have had the reach on Tyson also, he would have jabbed and frusterated him to making a mistake. He would have taunted him as well, Tyson would have lost his composure.

In some arenas athletes have got bigger and stronger, does not mean better, Pro Football and Pro Basketball being examples, Pro football you have position specialists now, not long ago most were four down players. NBA has a few one on one players, not team basketball, most players lacking even the ability to make foul shots above 70 percent or play defense. Baseball has also turned into a specialized sport, Used to be common for a guy to pitch complete games, now you have short relief, long releif, closer, and a clean up guy after the closer throws more then 15 pitches. You have guys real good at specifics of the game, not better at the game in my opinion.

Boxing has lost it's audience as well with newer fighting sports, people want the blood and kick the shit out of you that it brings in every fight, those kind of beating are not the norm in Boxing these days.

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Every single fighter Tyson went against had a reach advantage. Sometimes approaching a foot of wingspan. Tyson may not have had any art to his fights, but playing at art would have gotten him killed. His only way to win was get inside a big man's reach and devastate. Ali would present big problems for Tyson, simply because Ali danced around plodders, though Tyson was a lot faster early on than most remember. But Tyson would give Ali problems, out at arms length Tyson simply did not present much target when his hands were up.

We tend to immortalize Ali because he fought in the golden age of heavies, and Tyson is doubted because he had no worthy opponents. Style wise, I think a fight between the two at their peak would have been ugly. Power vs stamina would have had fans yelling at Ali for 5 rounds to stop running away.

Too true. Tyson's ability to flat out hit a guy cannot be understated. I don't think there has been another boxer who could deliver a left hook with such intensity.

m0ng0 · Jun 1, 2013

He had good defense in the old days with Cus and Rooney, his head was always moving, ducking diving providing a small target that was always moving, he worked the body alot more, was always in great shape, I read somewhere he could hit you 5 times in less then 2 seconds (dont remember where I read that) and always had a fundamentally sound game plan, but Mike got got rich, complacent and figured he could just get by with his power alone, once Buster beat him he lost that aura of invincibility in his own head and in the minds of his opponents, they just were not quite as scared of him. The punch the bully in the mouth theory.

Someone said between 86-88 he could have beaten any heavyweight in history. I buy that.

Hawken-Dazs · Jun 1, 2013

Anyone watch the documentary Tyson?

Subzero717 · Jun 1, 2013

No but I just got my ESPN the mag wit h him on the cover.

Hawken-Dazs · Jun 1, 2013

I suggest everyone here watch Tyson. To give you an idea how good it is, here's something I found on the IMDB page.

To gage what effect "Tyson" would have on audiences, James Toback asked the opinions of the film's opposite demographic: older white women who were disinterested in boxing. He asked that they come to his editing suite and watch the film. If they left after 5 minutes, Toback would give them $100 USD. If they stayed after 5 minutes, they would have to stay for the whole picture - and give Toback extensive feedback on the film. According to Toback, not one woman left after 5 minutes, and many were in tears by the film's finale.

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