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Post subject: Re: NBA returning to Seattle?  Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:24 pm |
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Lords of Scythia wrote: pinksheets wrote: Lords of Scythia wrote: Hey pink, do you know Speedcat from SR? Not personally, but I've gone back and forth with him on SR a little bit here and there and am very familiar with him. I play music with the guy. He seems like a good guy. I love the staff over at SonicsRising. Tough job, tough climate.
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Post subject: Re: NBA returning to Seattle? Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:34 pm |
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I'm not a huge NBA fan but I'm excited for the city to get a team back but it leads me to this...
Is there any way the NBA can walk away from this now and not severely damage their reputation? Not to mention it would have anti-trust written all over it with the NBA telling the Maloof's who they have to sell to
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Post subject: Re: NBA returning to Seattle? Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:10 am |
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They could save face by letting the Kings morph into the Sonics or grant them an immediate expansion team starting play in the 13-14 season!
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Post subject: Re: NBA returning to Seattle? Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 1:38 am |
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This is Hansen daring the NBA to say no, if that vote is true then collution is also involved to manipulate the fair market and competitive practices of the business. Telling people to change a vote is really bad business, to do it to make something look other then it was in the public eye is also manipulation. I wonder if Hansen and the rest of the group knew the real vote or not.
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Post subject: Re: NBA returning to Seattle? Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 3:55 am |
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I get out of work before lunch on Wed. Thinking I just might try and find were the BOG meeting is. Get some green and gold down there!
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Post subject: Re: NBA returning to Seattle? Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 3:57 am |
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Post subject: Re: NBA returning to Seattle? Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 4:27 am |
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pretty sure its here in Dallas somewhere
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Post subject: Re: NBA returning to Seattle? Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 5:04 am |
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NoChops wrote: pretty sure its here in Dallas somewhere Oh, WELL THEN! They usually hold their meetings there in NY. And I tried to help and look for you, Google isn't our friend right now. _________________ 3elieve
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Post subject: Re: NBA returning to Seattle? Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 7:14 am |
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chris98251 wrote: This is Hansen daring the NBA to say no, if that vote is true then collution is also involved to manipulate the fair market and competitive practices of the business. Telling people to change a vote is really bad business, to do it to make something look other then it was in the public eye is also manipulation. I wonder if Hansen and the rest of the group knew the real vote or not. This is looking like it's gonna be get ugly if they deny Hanson. It's a hole the NBA dug themselves though, they keep changing the rules to allow Sac back in it.
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Post subject: Re: NBA returning to Seattle? Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 9:39 am |
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I just dont see how the NBA can walk away from not only this amount of money but this group. Group's lkke this don't just fall out of tree's. I feel there will be a team here if not this coming season but the next. I don't see the NBA steeping over a $100 bill to pick up 25 cents plus we have everything in place ready to go.
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Post subject: Re: NBA returning to Seattle? Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:39 am |
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The way Stern and the NBA as a whole is bending over backwards and using everything they can do to at first leverage the City of Sacramento to put up a bid for new owners and second get a Arena built using Hansens group and also Kevin Johnson is really pathetic. They may not want Sacramento to move and I can understand that after the debacle that happened here in Seattle with Bennett. But they also can't be so tunnel vision to take a group and have them spend the money Hansen and Balmer have spent to date and then publicly embarass them like Johnson, and then Stern basically give them the cold shoulder and hold the Sacramento groups hand and walks them thru what ever the NBA see's as necessary to get a bid approved. Moving dates, pushing out votes, changeing votes, all the stall tactics being used.
The NBA is used to being the big game in the Jungle and primary predator, the problem we have is that they chose to go into Jurassic Park with Hansen and Balmer. "Queue Jeff Goldblooms Chaos theory speech."
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Post subject: Re: NBA returning to Seattle? Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:25 pm |
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Is there anyway they can really reject the sale? I'm not a law dog, but isn't that what it comes down to?
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Post subject: Re: NBA returning to Seattle? Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:42 pm |
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chris98251 wrote: This is Hansen daring the NBA to say no, if that vote is true then collusion is also involved to manipulate the fair market and competitive practices of the business. Telling people to change a vote is really bad business, to do it to make something look other then it was in the public eye is also manipulation. I wonder if Hansen and the rest of the group knew the real vote or not. I'm thinking they did know the real vote was 4-3 against instead of 7-0 against, that's why they added another 75 million knowing the vote was that close, this just proves that Stern is rigging the game, and sets it up real nice for a flurry of anti-trust lawsuits against the NBA and Stern if H/B/N doesn't get a team now.
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Post subject: Re: NBA returning to Seattle? Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:48 pm |
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NoChops wrote: Is there anyway they can really reject the sale? I'm not a law dog, but isn't that what it comes down to? Yes, but if they do, it opens the door to anti-trust lawsuits by both H/B/N and or the Maloffs as the league and Stern have clearly violated the Sherman Anti-trust act. DO I think Stern and the NBA think they are above the law, yes, yes I do, and they'll lose (the NBA that is)
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Post subject: Re: NBA returning to Seattle? Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:52 pm |
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I heard yesterday on the radio that the Maloffs wont have a good case in court but the seattle group would if they wanted to take it that far.
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Post subject: Re: NBA returning to Seattle? Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:56 pm |
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RealDeal wrote: I heard yesterday on the radio that the Maloffs wont have a good case in court but the seattle group would if they wanted to take it that far. They say that because the Maloofs have signed a waiver of recourse (agreement not to sue) as a condition of being an NBA owner. The problem with that is....the NBA is essentially a monopoly, so basically, if you want to be involved in pro-basketball, you have to do so with the NBA, and to do so with the NBA, you have to agree never to sue them. So basically, they use their deathgrip on an industry to write their own rules and force people to give up their legal rights, which isn't looked on kindly by the courts. It's coercive, basically, and those types of agreements are thrown out in cases far less obvious than this, where there isn't even a monopolistic force involved.
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Post subject: Re: NBA returning to Seattle? Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 1:00 pm |
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RealDeal wrote: I heard yesterday on the radio that the Maloffs wont have a good case in court but the seattle group would if they wanted to take it that far. It matters on who you talk to, or listen to. Most NBA experts McCann and others don't want the NBA getting sued since that is they bread and butter and game they love, so you are not exactly getting info from unbiased sources when you hear stuff from the NBA national guys. I think H/B/N set the trap and the NBA and Stern blissfully walked right into it!
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Post subject: Re: NBA returning to Seattle? Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 1:44 pm |
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RealDeal wrote: I heard yesterday on the radio that the Maloffs wont have a good case in court but the seattle group would if they wanted to take it that far. I heard that too. They were talking about of the different parties, whose legal position is weakest - it's the Maloofs because the contractual agreements of being an NBA owner. But HBN is not an owner, and the legal position of that entity is roughly equivilent to that of the EATER OF WORLDS. _________________ SCOUT SAYS MANZIEL BETTER THAN WILSON http://cover32.com/seahawks/2014/03/05/ ... ll-wilson/
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Post subject: Re: NBA returning to Seattle? Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 2:01 pm |
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Lords of Scythia wrote: RealDeal wrote: I heard yesterday on the radio that the Maloffs wont have a good case in court but the seattle group would if they wanted to take it that far. I heard that too. They were talking about of the different parties, whose legal position is weakest - it's the Maloofs because the contractual agreements of being an NBA owner. But HBN is not an owner, and the legal position of that entity is roughly equivilent to that of the EATER OF WORLDS. Yea that is what I heard.
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Post subject: Re: NBA returning to Seattle? Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 2:56 pm |
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9265605/sources-maloof-family-cuts-new-deal-sacramento-kingsFrom the article: Quote: Chris Hansen and Steve Ballmer, the deep-pocketed Seattle-based investors trying to acquire the team, have struck a new deal with the Maloofs that may create more drama in Sacramento and the league office.
Two sources told ESPN.com the Maloofs have informed their fellow owners that if their deal to sell and relocate the Kings to Seattle is not approved by league owners next week, they will not sell the team to a Sacramento-based group that promises to keep the Kings in Sacramento.
Instead, the cash-strapped Maloofs have made a "backup" agreement with the Hansen-Ballmer group to sell them 20 percent of the team for $125 million to allow the Maloofs to continue to operate the franchise.
That new "backup" plan comes on the heels of Hansen's announcement on Friday that he had upped his offer to buy the Maloofs' 65 percent of the Kings to $409 million (from $358 million) for a total valuation of $625 million.
Sources said that new proposal also included a $115 million offer to owners as a relocation fee, which would amount to about $4 million per team. By comparison, in 2008 when the Oklahoma City Thunder moved from Seattle, they paid a $30 million fee to the other owners.
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