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Hey guys, I'm a huge Panthers fan and we recently signed DT Colin Cole. I thought we just signed the guy as a camp body but apparently our coaches like him a lot more than that. I saw that he last played for you guys in 2011 but I can't find why he hasn't played the last two years. Why did ya'll get rid of him and is he anything special? Thanks for any info you can give me on the guy. BTW you guys are really lucky to have NC State alum Russell Wilson on your team. I knew ya'll got a steal the second you drafted him. Best of luck this year and can't wait to play ya'll week 1.


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Good run stopper, that's about it.


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He was a decent run stopper but frankly I'm surprised he's still around.

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Oh alright... Well atleast we just drafted Star and Kawann Short. I hope ya'll are ready in September because the Panthers are no joke this year.


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I hope ya'll are ready in September because the Panthers are no joke this year.


The Seahawks are no joke either. Completely unfunny. Like Adam Sandler post Happy Gilmore/Billy Madison unfunny.

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Oh alright... Well atleast we just drafted Star and Kawann Short. I hope ya'll are ready in September because the Panthers are no joke this year.

One of the secrets to our success is that we don't take any team lightly.

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Oh alright... Well atleast we just drafted Star and Kawann Short. I hope ya'll are ready in September because the Panthers are no joke this year.



If the coaching staff thinks Colin Cole is good, then the Panthers may be a joke this year :D


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Rather than carry him on PUP (ankle), he was released with the final cuts in September 2011. Colin was an adequate 2 down run stopper at the 1 technique. Brandon Mebane moved over to replace him and upgraded the position in a big way.

What some fans here remember about Colin's play is what he was like at the last on a very bad ankle. He may very well turn out to be a productive part of the new rotation for the Jaguars in year 1 of a new defense.


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Oh alright... Well atleast we just drafted Star and Kawann Short. I hope ya'll are ready in September because the Panthers are no joke this year.



If the coaching staff thinks Colin Cole is good, then the Panthers may be a joke this year :D
Haha alright, i mean as our 5th DT. Not starting or anything


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Hey guys, I'm a huge Panthers fan and we recently signed DT Colin Cole. I thought we just signed the guy as a camp body but apparently our coaches like him a lot more than that. I saw that he last played for you guys in 2011 but I can't find why he hasn't played the last two years. Why did ya'll get rid of him and is he anything special? Thanks for any info you can give me on the guy. BTW you guys are really lucky to have NC State alum Russell Wilson on your team. I knew ya'll got a steal the second you drafted him. Best of luck this year and can't wait to play ya'll week 1.


He was a stopgap. Capable at run stuffing but not a gamechanger.

Here is a bit of scouting from one of our more popular fan sites:

http://www.fieldgulls.com/2009/3/1/7771 ... ole-hammer
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2009/3/2/7781 ... ole-hammer

And a bit more from when he got cut. Long story short. Too expensive for an injrued player at the time with alternative value and equal or better production.

http://scouttheseahawks.com/2011/09/05/ ... -analysis/

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Rather than carry him on PUP (ankle), he was released with the final cuts in September 2011. Colin was an adequate 2 down run stopper at the 1 technique. Brandon Mebane moved over to replace him and upgraded the position in a big way.

What some fans here remember about Colin's play is what he was like at the last on a very bad ankle. He may very well turn out to be a productive for the Jaguars in their first year of building their new defense.
Jaguars? Sarcasm?


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Welcome! I liked Cole because he was an effort guy (imo) and that effort just landed him a job.

However he did very little and was deep on the depth chart that sucked at DT. (Yeah I am not super happy with DT play right now)

Overall he will make your team...but depth.


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Rather than carry him on PUP (ankle), he was released with the final cuts in September 2011. Colin was an adequate 2 down run stopper at the 1 technique. Brandon Mebane moved over to replace him and upgraded the position in a big way.

What some fans here remember about Colin's play is what he was like at the last on a very bad ankle. He may very well turn out to be a productive for the Jaguars in their first year of building their new defense.
Jaguars? Sarcasm?


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Rather than carry him on PUP (ankle), he was released with the final cuts in September 2011. Colin was an adequate 2 down run stopper at the 1 technique. Brandon Mebane moved over to replace him and upgraded the position in a big way.

What some fans here remember about Colin's play is what he was like at the last on a very bad ankle. He may very well turn out to be a productive for the Jaguars in their first year of building their new defense.
Jaguars? Sarcasm?


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Rather than carry him on PUP (ankle), he was released with the final cuts in September 2011. Colin was an adequate 2 down run stopper at the 1 technique. Brandon Mebane moved over to replace him and upgraded the position in a big way.

What some fans here remember about Colin's play is what he was like at the last on a very bad ankle. He may very well turn out to be a productive for the Jaguars in their first year of building their new defense.
Jaguars? Sarcasm?


Jaguars, Panthers...both cat teams. :thirishdrinkers:
Haha don't even go there. We will never be Jaguars bad. BTW I hope ya'll don't still have NC State's old DT starting at guard anymore because our pass rush will be top 3 in the NFL this year. The kraken is coming! :mrgreen:


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Haha don't even go there. We will never be Jaguars bad. BTW I hope ya'll don't still have NC State's old DT starting at guard anymore because our pass rush will be top 3 in the NFL this year. The kraken is coming! :mrgreen:




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[quote="Jville"]Rather than carry him on PUP (ankle), he was released with the final cuts in September 2011. Colin was an adequate 2 down run stopper at the 1 technique. Brandon Mebane moved over to replace him and upgraded the position in a big way.

What some fans here remember about Colin's play is what he was like at the last on a very bad ankle. He may very well turn out to be a productive for the Jaguars in their first year of building their new defense.
Jaguars? Sarcasm?


Jaguars, Panthers...both cat teams. :thirishdrinkers:
Haha don't even go there. We will never be Jaguars bad. BTW I hope ya'll don't still have NC State's old DT starting at guard anymore because our pass rush will be top 3 in the NFL this year. The kraken is coming! :mrgreen:[/quote]
Just keep the Falclowns out of the playoffs and we will see haha.


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Maybe he'll work out on your team. I wish you good luck. I have a feeling we'll beat you a lot worse this season.


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For a big dude he got pushed back on a lot of one on ones. But as a camp body/reserve might as well see if he's got anything left.


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He is crap. Like the post above says, he pushed around on one on ones. He was walked backed 5-6 yards on double teams. He is not a run stopper. He is a big waste of space. I was so happy when he was let go.

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He is a decent run-stopper, but doesn't provide much in terms of pass rush. Good piece to a rotation.

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Cole was a mediocre run stuffer with zero pass rush, three seasons ago. I doubt he makes the Panthers roster after they added Lotulelei and Short.


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Cole was a mediocre run stuffer with zero pass rush, three seasons ago. I doubt he makes the Panthers roster after they added Lotulelei and Short.


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Haha don't even go there. We will never be Jaguars bad. BTW I hope ya'll don't still have NC State's old DT starting at guard anymore because our pass rush will be top 3 in the NFL this year. The kraken is coming! :mrgreen:




Ah, the mighty roar of the paper panther.


Panthers are my #2 team, since I live in the Charlotte area. The Panthers did have 39 sacks last year...They were underrated in that department and they just upgraded with two quality DT picks. The d-line will be good. The secondary sucks though and they did not address that need in the offseason other than picking journeymen FAs Drayton Florence and DJ Moore--not much of an upgrade after losing perinial starter, Chris Gamble.


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Haha don't even go there. We will never be Jaguars bad. BTW I hope ya'll don't still have NC State's old DT starting at guard anymore because our pass rush will be top 3 in the NFL this year. The kraken is coming! :mrgreen:




Ah, the mighty roar of the paper panther.


Panthers are my #2 team, since I live in the Charlotte area. The Panthers did have 39 sacks last year...They were underrated in that department and they just upgraded with two quality DT picks. The d-line will be good. The secondary sucks though and they did not address that need in the offseason other than picking journeymen FAs Drayton Florence and DJ Moore--not much of an upgrade after losing perinial starter, Chris Gamble.



So, what you are saying is that they are paper panthers?

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Ah, the mighty roar of the paper panther.


So, what you are saying is that they are paper panthers?


Would you sound any different on an opponents message board? Have a little class, he's here with good intentions asking about Colin Cole. No need to rile him up by insulting his team. There are 32 other fanbases that are just as excited about their teams as we are about ours.

(Well maybe not 32, but there are at least a few that have high hopes)

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Ah, the mighty roar of the paper panther.


So, what you are saying is that they are paper panthers?


Would you sound any different on an opponents message board? Have a little class, he's here with good intentions asking about Colin Cole. No need to rile him up by insulting his team. There are 32 other fanbases that are just as excited about their teams as we are about ours.

(Well maybe not 32, but there are at least a few that have high hopes)



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Cole, when he got paid aka when he came to Seattle his game fell off quite a bit. Undersized and not very strong, I doubt he makes the team. He seems like a guy that just wants the money and could careless about wins and losses.


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So, what you are saying is that they are paper panthers?


If by "paper panthers" you mean good enough on paper to be a playoff team? No. I think Atlanta or New O'leens will win the division and I think the wildcards will come out of the NFC West--(Rams, 9'ers, or Hawks). I think the Panthers are good enough to get 9 wins though, which is better than last year but won't be enough to get in the playoffs. They usually play Atlanta close and may challenge them for the division, but if NO returns to form, they're probably will be out of the race.


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Oh alright... Well atleast we just drafted Star and Kawann Short. I hope ya'll are ready in September because the Panthers are no joke this year.


I like those 2 picks for the Panters. That should really help their DL. I was hoping Seattle would get Kawaan Short.


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Oh alright... Well atleast we just drafted Star and Kawann Short. I hope ya'll are ready in September because the Panthers are no joke this year.


The Panthers are my pick for 'surprise' team next year. However, I think our defense matches up well against the Panthers offense, and I think our offense is to going to be scary good. Should be a great opening weekend game, though.

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Haha don't even go there. We will never be Jaguars bad. BTW I hope ya'll don't still have NC State's old DT starting at guard anymore because our pass rush will be top 3 in the NFL this year. The kraken is coming!


Aw man....Sweezy is a cool story you don't see that often in the NFL. Let's leave the Wolfpack out of this, k? haha


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Oh alright... Well atleast we just drafted Star and Kawann Short. I hope ya'll are ready in September because the Panthers are no joke this year.


Sooooo... Are you saying that since the Panthers drafted those two guys that they will suddenly be relavent? Hmmm.


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Cole is my least favorite type of DT. Instead of anchoring in, when he gets double teamed he sinks back in order to shed the block rather than hold his own and not give away free yards. He gets tackles this way, but they are six yards downfield. He was better in 2011, a little more inconsistent, but he should be a spot rotational guy, nothing more.


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Oh alright... Well atleast we just drafted Star and Kawann Short. I hope ya'll are ready in September because the Panthers are no joke this year.


Sooooo... Are you saying that since the Panthers drafted those two guys that they will suddenly be relavent? Hmmm.

Well considering atleast three of our losses came from Dline play last year, yeah. 10-6 seems pretty relevant. But anyway thanks guys for all the info. Definitely have a better understanding now. Go Panthers!


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Haha don't even go there. We will never be Jaguars bad. BTW I hope ya'll don't still have NC State's old DT starting at guard anymore because our pass rush will be top 3 in the NFL this year. The kraken is coming!


Aw man....Sweezy is a cool story you don't see that often in the NFL. Let's leave the Wolfpack out of this, k? haha
Haha I'm a huge pack fan myself. Just thought that was a kinda shocking story.


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Seems like folks on the Carolina MB consider Wilson to be a poor man's Cam:
http://www.carolinahuddle.com/boards/topic/85988-lets-get-this-party-started-how-do-we-beat-seattle/page-9

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Seems like folks on the Carolina MB consider Wilson to be a poor man's Cam:
http://www.carolinahuddle.com/boards/topic/85988-lets-get-this-party-started-how-do-we-beat-seattle/page-9

So let me ask ya: which team has the edge at QB?


Wilson - Rating 100.0 Ranked #4 in NFL, QBR 69.6 Ranked #8 in NFL
Cam - Rating 86.2 Ranked #15 in NFL, QBR 54.2 Ranked #16 in NFL

I don't think they understand what ''poor man's insert player name here'' means.

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While Cam is no joke, its clear that RW is the better QB. Cam has a tendency to get flusterred, especially late in games...the meltdowns are often costly. If you've ever watched the Panther scores flash at the bottom of the screen during a game in the first half, and the Panthers have the lead, chances are they will blow it in the second half. It was infuriating as a fan. RW is the opposite...he's always cool, always under control, down to the end no matter what. There will be moments with Cam when he rumbles down half the field when a play breaks down or throws a lazer deep ball that will leave you in awe. But, RW does that too. Both are clear franchise QBs, but RW is better.


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 Post subject: Re: Panther fan with a player question
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Wilson is, and will continue to be a better overall player than Cam. Cam has a ton of talent, no doubt. But in the clutch, he just doesn't have it. Also, his cockiness and the media dry humping (especially by Deion Sanders) gets real old. That stupid Superman pose thing he does is almost as annoying as Krapperdink and his Bicep kissing.

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 Post subject: Re: Panther fan with a player question
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Cam's pouting and inability to quickly overcome, or even mask, his disappointment and frustration would drive me crazy if I were a Panther's fan.

And if our board had ads like theirs, that would drive me crazy too.

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