Post draft Super Bowl odds.

San Francisco 49ers 6/1
Denver Broncos 15/2
New England Patriots 8/1
Seattle Seahawks 9/1
Atlanta Falcons 12/1
Green Bay Packers 12/1
Houston Texans 18/1
New Orleans Saints 18/1
Baltimore Ravens 20/1
New York Giants 20/1
Chicago Bears 25/1
Pittsburgh Steelers 25/1
Dallas Cowboys 28/1
Washington Redskins 28/1
Philadelphia Eagles 30/1
Cincinnati Bengals 35/1
Indianapolis Colts 35/1
Detroit Lions 40/1
Miami Dolphins 40/1
Minnesota Vikings 40/1
San Diego Chargers 40/1
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 40/1
Carolina Panthers 50/1
Kansas City Chiefs 50/1
St. Louis Rams 60/1
Cleveland Browns 75/1
New York Jets 75/1
Arizona Cardinals 100/1
Buffalo Bills 100/1
Oakland Raiders 100/1
Tennessee Titans 100/1
Jacksonville Jaguars 200/1

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Now that right there is respect. Basically, Vegas is just creating a popularity poll. More money will always come in on SF and NE so they don't have to make the odds any more tempting. We are far from the 3rd most popular team in the country, but Vegas understands the heavier bettors are football savvy, so the fact they have us at 3 really suggests we are the team to beat. I love it.

Edit: I misread Denver's line. We are actually at 4. But that changes little and what I said about us can be applied to (Manning) and the Broncs (who we will defeat in NY).

I like your thinking hawkwow! So after the draft the chances got a little worse? I thought I seen it at 6/1 or 8/1 before.

I would wait for the 10/1, then everyone has something to lose.

In fairness NEs path to the playoffs (and thus SB) is a lot easier than sea and sf. Odds seem fair.

So based off the odds, Vegas is predicting the following standings.

NFC

West
1: San Francisco
2: Seattle (WC)
3: Rams
4: Cardinals

North
1: Green Bay
2: Chicago
3: Detroit
4: Minnesota

South
1: Atlanta
2: New Orleans (WC)
3: Tampa Bay
4: Carolina

East
1: New York
2: Dallas
3: Washington
4: Philadelphia

AFC

West
1: Denver
2: San Diego
3: Kansas City
4: Oakland

North
1: Baltimore
2: Pittsburgh (WC)
3: Cincinnati (WC)
4: Cleveland

South
1: Houston
2: Indianapolis
3: Tennessee
4: Jacksonville

East
1: New England
2: Miami
3: New York
4: Buffalo

They seem to agree with me about the Rams, that people are really starting to overrate them here. Of course, part of their low odds is that they have to get thru Seattle and SF to get there.

JSeahawks":293a0mrb said:

They seem to agree with me about the Rams, that people are really starting to overrate them here. Of course, part of their low odds is that they have to get thru Seattle and SF to get there.

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Four games against Seattle/SanFran and a fifth against ATL will do a number on your odds.

JSeahawks":3lygyn9w said:

They seem to agree with me about the Rams, that people are really starting to overrate them here. Of course, part of their low odds is that they have to get thru Seattle and SF to get there.

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I think people are overrating them a bit because of how tough they played Seattle and San Francisco. Their overall point differential (-49) wasn't too hot. Only the Eagles, Lions and Cardinals were worse in the NFC.

I think they have Pittsburgh a little overrated I haven't seen enough to convince they have fixed their impending downfall because of the age on the defense. I easily see Baltimore either winning or coming in second in the AFC North.

The Cincinatti Bengals will win their division.

BOOK IT!

bestfightstory":3hbk7kkr said:

The Cincinatti Bengals will win their division.

BOOK IT!

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That's my belief but Baltimore will put a fight up. They didn't lose as much as the pundits think. I see that division going Cincinnati, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cleveland.

DavidSeven":2kv8g9zo said:

JSeahawks":2kv8g9zo said:

They seem to agree with me about the Rams, that people are really starting to overrate them here. Of course, part of their low odds is that they have to get thru Seattle and SF to get there.

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I think people are overrating them a bit because of how tough they played Seattle and San Francisco. Their overall point differential (-49) wasn't too hot. Only the Eagles, Lions and Cardinals were worse in the NFC.

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This. But if the Rams succeed against the rest of the league as they did against us last year (and SF), they could lock in a WC spot as well.

I don't know what I think about the Bengals. I always hear about them being good but whenever I catch a game of theirs, I just don't see anything that really resembles great football.

Hawknballs":16pwhs8j said:

I don't know what I think about the Bengals. I always hear about them being good but whenever I catch a game of theirs, I just don't see anything that really resembles great football.

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They perplex me also, it seems like they should perform much better than they do. Is that on the coach or the players? I only think they win their division because of their FA and drafting that TE. The so needed another target for Dalton beyond AJ Greene.

As for the Superbowl odds I think they are pretty fair because on paper Denver should win the AFC and until we beat San Francisco they have the right to be more favored than us.

There's a pretty decent chance SF could start out 0-2 to our 2-0. At least considering week 1 of competition, and home field for us week 2. Better than vice-versa if you had to put odds on it. that could be pretty big the rest of the way.

SeatownJay":3kinnatm said:

So based off the odds, Vegas is predicting the following standings.

NFC

West
1: San Francisco
2: Seattle (WC)
3: Rams
4: Cardinals

North
1: Green Bay
2: Chicago
3: Detroit
4: Minnesota

South
1: Atlanta
2: New Orleans (WC)
3: Tampa Bay
4: Carolina

East
1: New York
2: Dallas
3: Washington
4: Philadelphia

AFC

West
1: Denver
2: San Diego
3: Kansas City
4: Oakland

North
1: Baltimore
2: Pittsburgh (WC)
3: Cincinnati (WC)
4: Cleveland

South
1: Houston
2: Indianapolis
3: Tennessee
4: Jacksonville

East
1: New England
2: Miami
3: New York
4: Buffalo

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Helped remind me how many crappy teams there are in the AFC.

True. And if we at least split with Houston/Indianapolis (entirely possible) you're looking at 5-1 with a TNF game which will be close and a MNF where we are money, divisional rival or not. Could conceivably be 7-1 and 3-0 in division with 5 home games on the back end of the schedule. That would create a huge hole for San Francisco to climb out of.

Uhhhhhh..... I was in Vegas 3 weeks ago and there was not a chance of getting odds this good on any of these teams. I went to 8 casinos and checked the sportsbooks in all of them and didn't find SF at better than 4:1 anywhere and couldn't find anywhere better than 11:2 on Seattle. In fact, Planet Hollywood had SF 7:2, Seattle 4:1. I'm not sure where these sites get their lines, but if you go to Vegas and can get 9:1 on the Seahawks, do it!

The vegas odds are adjusted by their own staff based on the amount of money expected to be gained or lost. I i magine the odds above are the base odds, and what you saw were the adjusted odds by the various books based on the amount of money put in favor of each team.

I think the schedule is a much larger factor for the change in odds. The odds change as the bets come in or don't. Early odds are based on expectation of betting and with ours going down and the Niner going up I suspect the books are not getting the betting on the Niner's they expected. Giving better odds helps to even out the betting. Ultimately the book isn't trying to win or lose on the betting, they are looking to rake in the commission for the bet.

I said in another post I would love to see the books power rankings with no bearing on money but you will never see that because everyone would simply bet the book.