HawksSoc wrote:Could anyone explain the roles of the different LB's in terms of our scheme? I understand the concepts we use in the secondary and up front but not the lbs, for instance why is KJ's Sam position more important then the Will?

HawksSoc wrote:Could anyone explain the roles of the different LB's in terms of our scheme? I understand the concepts we use in the secondary and up front but not the lbs, for instance why is KJ's Sam position more important then the Will?

sliv wrote:My adopt a rookie............... UDFA John Lotulelei 5'11" 233lbs OLB UNLV!!!!! his highlights will make you smile, he is a heat seeking missle who is more physical than he should be....... I can't wait to watch this guy play the will this preseason.... you heard it here first.....

4.84 40 yada yada his 20 yard split is top of the food chain and came back in his pro day with a 4.65 40 but was one of the top performers at the combine in the verticle 35.5 " and 3 cone 6.91.... which is legit quicks.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=97253&draftyear=2013&genpos=OLB

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/john-lotulelei?id=2539992

T-Sizzle wrote:

sliv wrote:My adopt a rookie............... UDFA John Lotulelei 5'11" 233lbs OLB UNLV!!!!! his highlights will make you smile, he is a heat seeking missle who is more physical than he should be....... I can't wait to watch this guy play the will this preseason.... you heard it here first.....

4.84 40 yada yada his 20 yard split is top of the food chain and came back in his pro day with a 4.65 40 but was one of the top performers at the combine in the verticle 35.5 " and 3 cone 6.91.... which is legit quicks.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=97253&draftyear=2013&genpos=OLB

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/john-lotulelei?id=2539992

He really closes fast!

sliv wrote:My adopt a rookie............... UDFA John Lotulelei 5'11" 233lbs OLB UNLV!!!!! his highlights will make you smile, he is a heat seeking missle who is more physical than he should be....... I can't wait to watch this guy play the will this preseason.... you heard it here first.....

4.84 40 yada yada his 20 yard split is top of the food chain and came back in his pro day with a 4.65 40 but was one of the top performers at the combine in the verticle 35.5 " and 3 cone 6.91.... which is legit quicks. Team captain and was on the preseason Butkus award watch list finished senior year 121 tackles but only 1.5 for a loss 2 forced fumbles and 1 int.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=97253&draftyear=2013&genpos=OLB

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/john-lotulelei?id=2539992

twisted_steel2 wrote:That dudes a monster. Amazing how many talented guys dont get drafted.

twisted_steel2 wrote:He reminds me of Lofa. Not a great 40 time, but super fast closer, violent hitter. Plays faster than his times. He's like Lofa with hair.

Lotulelei
5'11'3
233

Lofa
5'11'7
238

Whats crazy is Lotulelei ran a 4.84 at combine, looking at nfldraftscout.com where I'm pulling these numbers, Lofa ran a 4.83

amill87 wrote:

HawksSoc wrote:Could anyone explain the roles of the different LB's in terms of our scheme? I understand the concepts we use in the secondary and up front but not the lbs, for instance why is KJ's Sam position more important then the Will?

http://www.fieldgulls.com/2011/5/31/2191847/the-pete-carroll-4-3-under-defense-part-i-an-introduction

That's the description that describes what we see on the field the best IMO.

We are a 4-3 defense that uses 3-4 personnel. So if you think of it like a 3-4 but both outside LBs (the Leo and sam) are essentially on the LOS all the time. The will plays more like a mike in a 3-4. Needs the range to cover lots of ground and make a lot of tackles.

I don't see KJ not being the sam very often. He is extraordinary at it. IMO he is our third best defender and seems to get very little recognition for it. He may not be flashy but he fills a role that makes the whole defense go.

*EDIT*

Don't expect our base defense to change at all really. We may see some cool new packages (like the bandit in Carroll's first year) but he won't change his base defense, he's ran it his entire coaching career. We also tend to run our base defense a lot. I could even see us putting Winfield in as our will.

HawksSoc wrote:

Ok I read that article thank you for the help So the terms Leo and Elephant are the same thing right?

Seahawk Sailor wrote:If "run fast and tackle the guy with the ball" is primarily the job of the WILL, it should be fairly seamless to put Irvin there. That's been his whole job on the field, except he was chasing down the quarterback. He, the guys we have, and the new draft prospects - I'm not worried.

CodeWarrior wrote:Has there been any word considering Korey Toomer? We've all heard the story before: great physical tools, raw, needs to be coached up. Anyone know how that progression is going?

Before I get the sass, yes I did a search and no I didn't find anything of note.

2006 Scout.com HS Football Rankings (full list):
Pos: LB Pos Rank: #4 Pos Rating:

Scout.com Player Evaluation:
STRENGTHS
Athleticism
Hitting Ability
Lateral Movement
AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT
Size


One of the best linebacker prospects in Southern California in some time. Has excellent quickness and can hit with the best of them.



Biography:
Final JR (9-1) stats: 129 tackles and eight sacks, four fumbles caused, six fumbles recovered and one interception; 1297 yds rushing and 15 TDs; 25 receptions for 275 yds and three TDs
As a junior, he was named all-CIF on both sides of the ball and was named to the all-state underclass team. As a sophomore, he also started on both sides of the ball and was named all-CIF and all-state underclass.

Partial senior stats: Bradford reports 1,030 rushing yards for 16 touchdowns and 15 catches for 315 yards and three touchdowns. He also has 90 tackles and nine sacks. Colton (6-1) travels to Rialto on Oct. 28.

Bradford reports a 2.6 GPA/Oct SAT retake.

Bradford: "I play with passion and heart, and I'm a vocal leader. I'm always the guy talking in the tunnel before the game or in the weight room. I like to get everybody ready to play. I lead by example. I just want to relax a bit more and hit harder on the field as a senior. I want to do everything better than I did last year.

"A lot of schools have told me I'm their No. 1 linebacker. They like my hitting ability, my aggressiveness and my vision on the field. But I have good character off the field too."

Colton head coach Harold Strauss says of Bradford, "Allen is just one of those kids who is special. He's just a man out there on the football field and he's a great person off the field. He's been a four year starter for us on defense and I can't remember another four year starter in the 26 years that I've been associated with the school. I would describe Allen as a hitter. He hits you on both sides of the ball. He's explosive on defense but on offense he will just run right through you. On defense, he's fast enough to play safety but big enough to be an outside linebacker. He was timed at 4.57 last year in the 40 and we've clocked him here at 4.50 so he's got the speed. He also plays with a lot of intensity, he's got no problem speaking up at a key time or asking for the ball in a big situation.
SPECIAL RECOGNITION




Scout.com Combine Results (full list):
Location: Los Angeles
Year: 2005
Height: 5-11.5
Weight: 222
40-Yard Dash: 4.59
Short Shuttle: 4.28
Vertical Jump: 30.0"
3-Cone: 8.37
Broad Jump: 9-0