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For every single analyst/commentator in sports, there is always someone who can't stand them.

Whether it's Kiper, McShay, Gruden, Costas take your pick. There are people who like them, and people who can't stand them.

But does anyone honestly dislike Mike Mayock? Pretty sure i'm not alone in my respect for the man, and maybe his "GET OFF ME" call from the Beastquake game has blinded me to his faults.

Is there anything wrong with Mayock?

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I also really like Mayock.

Costas is the one guy I can't stand. I just get this vibe that he thinks he's the coolest man alive. He just irks me, haha.

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I'd love the guy for his epic call on the Beastquake replay alone, but I do honestly think he's generally one of the best out there. I think he has the right energy for announcing, and he always seems more prepared than everyone else.

He also loved Seattle's draft (through four rounds):

http://www.nfl.com/videos/seattle-seahawks/0ap2000000164626/Mayock-I-love-what-Seattle-is-doing


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Loved Mayock since he first came on the scene a few years ago. Always says the right thing, and when he guesses wrong (which is not too often) he admits he was wrong and takes responsibility for it without excuse.

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Anyone see the video of him getting loose at the senior bowl? Great stuff!

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Love Mayock. In fact I was watching the draft with a friend who has no draft knowledge (doesn't follow) and he pointed to mayock on screen and asked, "who is that guy? on the right? I like that dude."

He just a genuinely likable person. Old Bellichek is even a fan.

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Mayock is the best media talent evaluator period. On top of that he presents the information in a professional manner whether it be positive or negative. If Mayock had a stroke on the set and couldn't even speak he would still be better than that ass hat Kiper. I don't even turn ESPN on anymore because I can't stand to look at or listen to Kiper.


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I don't like him as much as everyone else does. He has turned into somewhat of a know it all. Most draft nics are. While he maybe one of the better talent evaluators out there I think some call him the best because that's what they hear everyone else say. To casual fans at least, there are really only 3 super recognizable "draft experts" and Kiper and McShay are idiots. I think where Mayock makes himself come off as easier to like he is rarely ultra critical. He doesn't come unglued after a pick the way Kiper does. When doing evaluation he will say " he needs to do this better." Kiper says " he can't do this."


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I don't like him as much as everyone else does. He has turned into somewhat of a know it all. Most draft nics are. While he maybe one of the better talent evaluators out there I think some call him the best because that's what they hear everyone else say. To casual fans at least, there are really only 3 super recognizable "draft experts" and Kiper and McShay are idiots. I think where Mayock makes himself come off as easier to like he is rarely ultra critical. He doesn't come unglued after a pick the way Kiper does. When doing evaluation he will say " he needs to do this better." Kiper says " he can't do this."


You're right, his approach is lot more palatable, than Kipers. McShay while at times is a douche, he's not always one.

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I don't dislike him but i'd rather watch kiper and Mcshay. They all have knowledge, but the ESPN guys are far more entertaining, imo.

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I don't dislike him but i'd rather watch kiper and Mcshay. They all have knowledge, but the ESPN guys are far more entertaining, imo.


For the first 2 days ESPN was a lot better, NFLN wanted to spend all day 2 yacking about Geno Smith & Manti Te'o

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I love Mayock, guy knows his stuff.

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Mayock as a pure draft analyst is great. However, I think as a TV presence he is pretty awful. He ALWAYS TALKS LIKE THIS, and often times gets a bit too heated/hard-headed with other analysts, making it pretty awkward to watch.


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I like mayock, but gruden is my favorite, and watch this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0rLOEvYULfY


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I love Mayock. He's a breath of fresh air for me.

He's done his homework and he's straight forward.

He's also a no BS kind of guy who can also laugh at himself.

I find him knowledgeable and entertaining.

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seahawks875 wrote:
I like mayock, but gruden is my favorite, and watch this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0rLOEvYULfY

Dude, that's hilarious!!

Thx for sharing.

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If you don't like Mayock, you're nuts and your opinion doesn't count for anything. ;)

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I definitely like Mayock, but watching Eisen was painful.


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I love Eisen, too. His personality is awesome. He's not big on football knowledge, though...

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I don't like him as much as everyone else does. He has turned into somewhat of a know it all. Most draft nics are. While he maybe one of the better talent evaluators out there I think some call him the best because that's what they hear everyone else say. To casual fans at least, there are really only 3 super recognizable "draft experts" and Kiper and McShay are idiots. I think where Mayock makes himself come off as easier to like he is rarely ultra critical. He doesn't come unglued after a pick the way Kiper does. When doing evaluation he will say " he needs to do this better." Kiper says " he can't do this."


Well, he is an expert. I don't think that necessarily makes him a know-it-all. His criticism is backed up by clearheaded analysis (even if I don't agree with the analysis).

The problem with Kiper and McShay is that they don't even seem to understand team needs beyond two or three of the more media-covered teams in the league. If you asked Kiper and Mayock to explain what the 9-tech/LEO position is and how Bruce Irvin might fit that role before last year's draft, which of them would have had the clearer, more technically-advanced answer?

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Coug_Hawk08 wrote:
Mayock as a pure draft analyst is great. However, I think as a TV presence he is pretty awful. He ALWAYS TALKS LIKE THIS, and often times gets a bit too heated/hard-headed with other analysts, making it pretty awkward to watch.


HOW DARE YOU!!! He suffers from voice immodulation. He's unable to control the pitch or volume of his voice. Also known as Van Horton's Syndrome, VI is a recognized psycho-medical condition which you may have read about in Newsweek or Crack Magazine. Numerous prominent Americans suffer from this debilitating disease, including the guy who played Rodge on "What's Happening" and tennis great Pete Sampras.

Imagine being at a high school dance, singing along with everyone else "and a little bit softer now, and a little bit softer now, and a little bit softer now." Or how about sitting in the privacy of your church confessional and whispering to your priest, "I've had impure thoughts about that hippy puppet in the Muppet Show Band."

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Mayock as a pure draft analyst is great. However, I think as a TV presence he is pretty awful. He ALWAYS TALKS LIKE THIS, and often times gets a bit too heated/hard-headed with other analysts, making it pretty awkward to watch.


I agree.

No wait, I AGREE WITH THIS STATEMENT, I'M TALKING LIKE MIKE MAYOCK!

You guys don't find him exhausting to watch?

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You guys don't find him exhausting to watch?


Not in the slightest. His delivery may be lacking, but what he actually says almost always has real substance behind it.

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I get the sense that Todd McShay and especially Mel Kiper lean towards the middle in their analysis. They watch a player and love him, but then see that everyone else has that player in the 4th round, so they put that player in the early 4th.

Mayock is far more courageous in his analysis, though that often leads to him having several "wtf" picks in his rankings every year. I think I actually agree with McShay's rankings the most of the three, but Mayock is a highly intellectual person and always has well thought out reasons for his opinions. I enjoy listening to Mayock's opinions the most, even if he's transmitting from Mars at times.

I've been watching Mayock do his thing for many years now, but it was just last weekend that I noticed he's left handed. If he's correspondingly right-hemisphere dominant in his brain, that would explain a lot regarding his unique nature and outlooks.


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I find Mayock informative and entertaining. I especially enjoyed that he was getting annoyed with Eisen always bringing the conversation back to Manti and Geno. Good to see somebody stand up to Eisen. I used to like Eisen, but his "smug" level is over the top these days and he rearely discusses football on his podcast anymore...just wants to talk about all the cool people he hangs with.


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I find Mayock informative and entertaining. I especially enjoyed that he was getting annoyed with Eisen always bringing the conversation back to Manti and Geno. Good to see somebody stand up to Eisen. I used to like Eisen, but his "smug" level is over the top these days and he rearely discusses football on his podcast anymore...just wants to talk about all the cool people he hangs with.



That is my other issue with Mayock. He is surrounded by arse clowns. Miller, Prime, Irvin, Sapp, Eisen, pretty much everyone but him. Billick. Is a clown. Nfln is pretty much a low budget completely unwatchable network. He needs to go to NBCS or CBS Sports and take his followers with him.


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NFL Network would be so much better if they'd just put Mayock and a presenter at a desk, discussing each pick. Break it up with some Daniel Jeremiah chiming in every now and again, or Charles Davis. There were times where Mayock was being cut off in his reactions, or having to rush through them. Why?

It's like they're pandering to the people who pay zero attention during the process and just watch the draft. As if those people are going to be any more or less interested because Michael Irvin is there too, or Brian Billick. Mayock is such an engaging listen it wouldn't matter. Now it'd be wrong to expect him to sit there for 4 hours talking non stop, but they don't have to dilute his output.


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Actually I like him. As he is low key. Does not get excited. Just really seems that he is low key which I like!

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I love Eisen, too. His personality is awesome. He's not big on football knowledge, though...


I don't dislike Eisen, he's fine as a personality. I was more commenting on the point where it got to him having to apologize about bringing up Te'o, Geno, or Mathieu and then talk about Te'o, Smith, or Mathieu, or whatever non-story they wanted to push, for the next 5 minutes during the first round. I'm sure it was probably the producers trying to push these stories, and him being the lead anchor had to bring it up, but it just got painful having to listen to it over and over.


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Holy, if you haven't done so before, you should listen to a couple of Eisen's own hour-long podcasts. He's in charge, I think you might like them.

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I'll give them a listen, always looking for a new podcast to help the work day go quicker. Thanks.


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I like Mayock. He may be a little "dry" but I'd rather have a guy that does his homework and knows what he talks about vs the clowns like Kiper or Pissquick that are lazy douches that only follow 4 or 5 of the "glamour" teams and spend the rest of their time talking out of their overpaid asses!

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I don't dislike him but i'd rather watch kiper and Mcshay. They all have knowledge, but the ESPN guys are far more entertaining, imo.


For the first 2 days ESPN was a lot better, NFLN wanted to spend all day 2 yacking about Geno Smith & Manti Te'o


The funny thing about that, Mayock was totally annoyed that Eisen kept trying to steer conversations back to Smith and TEO. He said a couple times he didn't care about the "Drama" of Smith and TEO falling. I was with Mayock.


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I echo Jazz's post exactly. I've liked him since I first started watching Mayock on draft stuff.

I also agree with the post saying he's more positive than Kiper who says "this guy can't do X".


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