"conditional" pick for Flynn?

The Essential Online Seahawks Fan Forum Community. There simply is NO substitute. RATING: PG-13
"conditional" pick for Flynn?
Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:37 pm
  • OK, so apparently we are assured of a 5th in 2014 and a conditional 5th in 15. How flexible are these conditional picks, anyway? Anyone know the boundaries of a conditional pick? IE...if Flynn is named *SB MVP, what is the best we can hope for out of this trade?

    I ask because I am unsure if it's wiser to root for, or against, our old AFCW nemesis. Not that we can actually influence any outcomes, but are we more hopeful that Flynn and the Raiders finish *0-16 (giving us 2 lofty 5ths) or are we hopeful they lose to us in the SB, and because Flynn was the *2nd best QB in the league, that conditional pick automatically becomes a *1st rounder?

    * situations intentionally exaggerated (so save it).
    User avatar
    HawkWow
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 5064
    Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:20 pm
    Location: The 5-0


Re: "conditional" pick for Flynn?
Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:52 pm
  • Since it's rumored to be a conditional 5th, I think it's safe to assume we'll at least get a pick- it just might be a 6th instead.

    I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for the details of the conditional pick. It often takes a while for those kind of details to hit the presses.
    User avatar
    kearly
    * Mr Random Thought *
     
    Posts: 10581
    Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:44 am


Re: "conditional" pick for Flynn?
Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:00 pm
  • kearly wrote:Since it's rumored to be a conditional 5th, I think it's safe to assume we'll at least get a pick- it just might be a 6th instead.

    I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for the details of the conditional pick. It often takes a while for those kind of details to hit the presses.


    Thanks Kearly. It seems to me a mountain of paperwork...filled with caveats, terms, conditions and "what ifs" would accompany such an open ended trade. Certainly our FO must have some language in there that states if Flynn becomes the 2013 version of Joe Montana, the conditional pick would be much higher than a 5th (?). It only stands to reason as I don't think Oakland, or any team, would balk at such an inclusion.

    I like Flynn and hope for his individual success, but until I better understand the reward, I am going to hope for the Raiders to fail so that 2014 5th rounder is a very high 5th rounder.
    User avatar
    HawkWow
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 5064
    Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:20 pm
    Location: The 5-0


Re: "conditional" pick for Flynn?
Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:26 pm
  • A common example of a condition might be based on how many starts he has next year.
    ______________________________

    Our secondary is gonna be like the Bermuda Triangle this year again boys! 2/3rds of the world is covered by water..... the rest is covered by the LOB!

    Made....Laid.....Paid!!!
    User avatar
    nwgamer
    NET Starter
     
    Posts: 356
    Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:26 am
    Location: Cashmere, WA


Re: "conditional" pick for Flynn?
Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:45 pm
  • Usually when they say conditional 5th, doesn't that mean it is the lowest possible compensation? So it couldn't be any worse than a 5th, but could be higher?

    Normally I thought that is how they word those things.
    Image
    User avatar
    HawkFan72
    NET Pro Bowler
     
    Posts: 11337
    Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:50 am
    Location: Antioch, CA


Re: "conditional" pick for Flynn?
Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:53 pm
  • HawkFan72 wrote:Usually when they say conditional 5th, doesn't that mean it is the lowest possible compensation? So it couldn't be any worse than a 5th, but could be higher?

    Normally I thought that is how they word those things.


    This was my thinking as well. If he is not uber-dynamic, we get the 5th...but what if he tears it up?? I would think there would be a clause that would compensate us accordingly....but perhaps not (?).
    User avatar
    HawkWow
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 5064
    Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:20 pm
    Location: The 5-0


Re: "conditional" pick for Flynn?
Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:02 pm
  • kearly wrote:Since it's rumored to be a conditional 5th, I think it's safe to assume we'll at least get a pick- it just might be a 6th instead.

    I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for the details of the conditional pick. It often takes a while for those kind of details to hit the presses.


    By a "while" we mean we'll find out in March 2015. Conditional details almost never come out, and we usually don't know until the official draft list is announced.
    <A>
    <IMG></A>
    User avatar
    McGruff
    * NET Staff Alumni *
    * NET Staff Alumni *
     
    Posts: 1556
    Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:14 am
    Location: Blaine, WA


Re: "conditional" pick for Flynn?
Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:27 pm
  • I think it's the opposite, conditional 5th meaning 5th is the highest we could get, if the conditons aren't met we might only get a 6th.

    I traded TB a conditional 7th for Kellen Winslow and he didn't play a snap and we didnt have to give them anything.
    Image
    User avatar
    Wenhawk
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 2127
    Joined: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:38 am
    Location: Graham, WA


Re: "conditional" pick for Flynn?
Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:11 pm
  • HawkWow wrote:
    HawkFan72 wrote:Usually when they say conditional 5th, doesn't that mean it is the lowest possible compensation? So it couldn't be any worse than a 5th, but could be higher?

    Normally I thought that is how they word those things.


    This was my thinking as well. If he is not uber-dynamic, we get the 5th...but what if he tears it up?? I would think there would be a clause that would compensate us accordingly....but perhaps not (?).


    My thoughts as well. IIRC, the trade of Josh Wilson was a conditional 5th that would have been a 4th if he had a certain amount of starts, but Baltimore had him not start one game to insure it was only a 5th (I think that was the case. Correct me anyone of Im wrong)
    I am Godzilla, you are Japan!
    User avatar
    Recon_Hawk
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 2046
    Joined: Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:01 pm
    Location: Vancouver, Wa


Re: "conditional" pick for Flynn?
Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:51 am



It is currently Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:01 pm

Please REGISTER to become a member

Return to [ THE OFFICIAL NET NATION FAN FORUM ]




Information