CALIHAWK1 wrote:I don't care what a stat sheet says. I have eyeballs. No way is Irvin better against the run than Clemons.
How many run play snaps were they on the field for?
Clemons was on the field for significantly more, and you have to factor that into these rankings. 917 snaps total for Clemons, 533 snaps for Irvin. This includes the playoffs, by the way. It must have been very close to twice as many snaps for Clemons during the regular season. Clemons isn't good against the run. He's not horrible, but he has never been more than an afterthought to our run defense; and frankly, almost the entire time he has been a Seahawk, we've had a very good base
run defense with him only working on rushing the passer. We saw Bruce get shell-shocked the first time he was a "most downs" pass rusher. (@ Atlanta.) I think this might make more sense if you see how they were graded on a per-game basis against the run.
Clemons was a more dramatic player against the run, (higher highs, lower lows) but Irvin was very middle-of-the-pack, grading out at 0 or within a half-point of 0 almost every week. (Talking about run defense only.)
I'll send you a couple of screenshots, I don't want to post the whole things here. Check your PMs, I just sent them. Take a look at the weekly grades of both, and then reply here. I'm curious to see what you think. Clemons probably played ten times as many run play snaps as Irvin, if not more. Irvin was on the field almost only in obvious passing down situations. He likely would have graded more poorly on it than Clemons if he had seen as many run plays, but that doesn't mean the grade is wrong. Like all stats, you have to know
what you're looking at. Not just see numbers.