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 Post subject: Rumor....Urlacher
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I'll preface it as a rumor, but a very reliable source has told me the 'Hawks are having internal discussions about a former Bears middle linebacker.....

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For the right price he would be nice as a backup.

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I would love to see the Hawks sign him. I think he still has a lot left in the tank and would be an big upgrade over Bobby Wagner, who I fully expect to regress significantly this year. Brian Urlacher is what this team needs to get to the next level and be truly elite.

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Yes and here's the discussion...

JS "what do you think about Urlacher?" (clinches his teeth so as not to burst out laughing)

PC "I think he was one of the best"

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PC "your point?"

Both begin to howl with laughter as they look at the list of LB they see in the middle rounds of the draft that they will be going after

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Might be kind of interesting, if he can stay healthy. I like the idea of bringing in a veteran to help mentor Bobby Wagner and KJ. Why do you expect Wagner to regress though? That's crazy talk.


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What's up Sleeves!

Guess signing Urlacher for vet minimum does't hurt but if they pay $2.5M like biggie76 suggested, I am eating my words. Oh we'll, should know better than to put anything beyond them.

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 Post subject: Re: Rumor....Urlacher
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I heard a rumor we were going to sign Urlacher and trade him to the mediocre Ravens for Courtney Upshaw.

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I say no. Did you guys not see how slow he looked at the end of that Seahawks and bears game?

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IBleedBlueAndGreen wrote:
I would love to see the Hawks sign him. I think he still has a lot left in the tank and would be an big upgrade over Bobby Wagner, who I fully expect to regress significantly this year. Brian Urlacher is what this team needs to get to the next level and be truly elite.

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Just curious what makes you think Wagner will regress signifigantly?

Personally, i suppose if its for near the vet minimum i'd be fine with it. Otherwise, no thank you on Urlacher.

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Maybe they sign him to a deal like they did with TO and give him a chance to compete. If he shows that he still has it and can help, they keep him. If he shows that he should retire, they cut him and let him try with another team.


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James!!!

I think the idea is they want some veteran leadership, a guy that still has the ability to play 1st and 2nd down and maybe Wagner can play the strong side. Again was only told internal discussions.

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I say no. Did you guys not see how slow he looked at the end of that Seahawks and bears game?


i believe he was also the one that chased Tate down 40 yards down the field too though

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JSeahawks wrote:
IBleedBlueAndGreen wrote:
I would love to see the Hawks sign him. I think he still has a lot left in the tank and would be an big upgrade over Bobby Wagner, who I fully expect to regress significantly this year. Brian Urlacher is what this team needs to get to the next level and be truly elite.

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Just curious what makes you think Wagner will regress signifigantly?

Personally, i suppose if its for near the vet minimum i'd be fine with it. Otherwise, no thank you on Urlacher.

I think he's trolling you guys, j.


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What's wrong with Urlacher as backup and toy to use on rushing downs/blitzes/spot duty?


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Oddly, I could see it. Seattle has a long history of signing old players to cheap one year deals in the past. It adds to the competition. Wagner would be a stud at WILL. It's a very weak LB class and I think Seattle probably wants to wait til next year before spending a good pick on one, so signing Urlacher as a 1 year stopgap makes sense. He also comes from a similar defense and could mentor the young LBs we have.

Obviously, Urlacher isn't what he once was, but the Seahawks know that. Pete got some very nice results out of a 36 year old Lawyer Milloy in 2010. Not saying it should happen or will happen, but if it did I'd "get it."


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I don't think enough people are appreciating how brilliant a post this was. :lol:

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I'm all for signing him...









As an assistant LB coach. :thcoffee:

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JSeahawks wrote:
IBleedBlueAndGreen wrote:
I would love to see the Hawks sign him. I think he still has a lot left in the tank and would be an big upgrade over Bobby Wagner, who I fully expect to regress significantly this year. Brian Urlacher is what this team needs to get to the next level and be truly elite.

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Just curious what makes you think Wagner will regress signifigantly?

Personally, i suppose if its for near the vet minimum i'd be fine with it. Otherwise, no thank you on Urlacher.

I think he's trolling you guys, j.


Just enjoying my beer and popcorn waiting to see who would be the first one to bite.

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Bobby was a better player than Urlacher last year. He had twice as many tackles, more sacks, and INT's. In every way Bobby was better and healthier. I also might add that Bobby out performed Lofa's rookie year as well. It's ludicrious IMO to say that He'd "Be a big upgrade over Bobby."

I can't wait to see this Lbing corps with another year under their belts. I think Wagner and KJ are going to have great year's and I think we'll see Malcolm Smith take the Will job.


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IBleed, from one antagonist to another, good job. Look at the rubes lining up to argue.

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And now its moved, for no reason. A good rumor, by a trusted source.


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IBleedBlueAndGreen wrote:
I would love to see the Hawks sign him. I think he still has a lot left in the tank and would be an big upgrade over Bobby Wagner, who I fully expect to regress significantly this year. Brian Urlacher is what this team needs to get to the next level and be truly elite.

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Just curious what makes you think Wagner will regress signifigantly?

Personally, i suppose if its for near the vet minimum i'd be fine with it. Otherwise, no thank you on Urlacher.


I'm curious too, as I've seen absolutely nothing to make me think he will regress.

IBleedBlueAndGreen, what makes you "fully expect" him to regress significantly?


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IBleedBlueAndGreen wrote:
jkitsune wrote:
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Just curious what makes you think Wagner will regress signifigantly?

Personally, i suppose if its for near the vet minimum i'd be fine with it. Otherwise, no thank you on Urlacher.

I think he's trolling you guys, j.


Just enjoying my beer and popcorn waiting to see who would be the first one to bite.


1 ban for trolling coming up! :th2thumbs:

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Just enjoying my beer and popcorn waiting to see who would be the first one to bite.


1 ban for trolling coming up! :th2thumbs:


Aw come on, J!

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Considering he felt shafted when the Bears offerd him $2.5 I'd suspect he thinks he's worth more than that. I didn't watch enough of him last year to see how much of a step he has lost but he would be a good leader and I think Wagner would be a fine WLB. I'm not sold he's the best option out there FA or Draft but if it doesn't hurt us renegotiating Kam and helps us with the flexability to draft a #2 TE and a 6'2+ WR I'm in.

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What's wrong with Urlacher as backup and toy to use on rushing downs/blitzes/spot duty?


He can't blitz anymore, he can't cover. In no way is he an upgrade.


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This would be stupid.

We built this team based on youth. We don't need washed up old has been.

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What's wrong with Urlacher as backup and toy to use on rushing downs/blitzes/spot duty?


He can't blitz anymore, he can't cover. In no way is he an upgrade.


Maybe. But maybe not as much in spot or back-up duties? Dude just gets worn down, he cant do a full season as a starter anymore.

Not sure where I said he'd be an upgrade?

At this point, Urlacher would come here for peanuts and a chance to win a ring. So, why not as depth?


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Considering he felt shafted when the Bears offerd him $2.5 I'd suspect he thinks he's worth more than that.



I heard an interview with him where he basically admitted he felt insulted by the bears for offering him so little after all his years of service and effort, and then said that he wouldn't ever settle for that kind of money and then quickly added on something to the amount of ". . . at least not from the bears.".

IMO he would be a good depth guy along with a strong veteran leader for an otherwise young defense, if he came cheap and understood that role.

having "veteran leadership" gets brought up a lot but sometimes it makes more sense than others, I think for this seahawks team that is so young he could definitely help our D keep things in perspective heading into a year where expectations will be high and the spotlight will be on them.


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Urlacher's game had so much to do with his speed. Unfortunately he has lost a step


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maybe he could return kickoffs?

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It's Singletary isn't it?


Funny, was going to ask, could it possibly be another Chicago linebacker?

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...i don't think Wagz and KJ need a mentor at this point other than their LB coach. And he's a hell of a mentor. Keep old man Urlacher away and draft Zarian Gooden please.

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This would be stupid.

We built this team based on youth. We don't need washed up old has been.


Not true sir. We built this team's foundation with youth and not being committed long-term and big money investments in old players. The occasional savvy vet, especially to reinforce a position dominated by youth has been a very common theme throughout this regime's tenure.

That being said, I dont know if I like the idea at all. Think I'll pass and still manage to get a good nights rest. :229031_shrug:

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You know which team is in the best position to know how effective Urlacher still is? The Chicago Bears.

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Tech Worlds wrote:
This would be stupid.

We built this team based on youth. We don't need washed up old has been.



Agreed, we can certainly better well spend the money on something we need.
We can find a better alternative through the middle rounds that is ready to play, wants to play..


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FO had a good analysis of the best and worst run stoppers in the NFL. Urlacher made top 10. They had this to say:

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The guy was listed in the top 10. The only middle linebacker who made the list and he consistently makes the list. He's a special talent and anyone who buys into the "he's washed up" myth has been buying into the whole Bears fans excuses for why their team blew their shot at the playoffs. People like to find scapegoats.

Oh and btw, Bobby didn't make that list.

Seems I recall our team had a need for run stoppers as the season progressed.

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One of the finalists for ROY AT MLB and people talk about moving him to WSLB... utter ignorance.


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FO had a good analysis of the best and worst run stoppers in the NFL. Urlacher made top 10. They had this to say:

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You may think that playing 3-4 outside linebacker is a huge help as far as making the left side of this particular list. You may be right. There have been a few 4-3 outside linebackers and the occasional middle linebacker like Brian Urlacher over the past few seasons, but it definitely helps you collect negative plays if you're moving on the snap.


The guy was listed in the top 10. The only middle linebacker who made the list and he consistently makes the list. He's a special talent and anyone who buys into the "he's washed up" myth has been buying into the whole Bears fans excuses for why their team blew their shot at the playoffs. People like to find scapegoats.

Oh and btw, Bobby didn't make that list.

Seems I recall our team had a need for run stoppers as the season progressed.


This post changed me from "mehhh" to "slightly in favor"


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You know which team is in the best position to know how effective Urlacher still is? The Chicago Bears.


To be fair, the Bears did offer him a contract. A contract that was twice as much as the minimum. It will probably end up being the biggest contract Urlacher is offered this offseason. He made a mistake turning it down, IMO.


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FO had a good analysis of the best and worst run stoppers in the NFL. Urlacher made top 10. They had this to say:

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You may think that playing 3-4 outside linebacker is a huge help as far as making the left side of this particular list. You may be right. There have been a few 4-3 outside linebackers and the occasional middle linebacker like Brian Urlacher over the past few seasons, but it definitely helps you collect negative plays if you're moving on the snap.


The guy was listed in the top 10. The only middle linebacker who made the list and he consistently makes the list. He's a special talent and anyone who buys into the "he's washed up" myth has been buying into the whole Bears fans excuses for why their team blew their shot at the playoffs. People like to find scapegoats.

Oh and btw, Bobby didn't make that list.

Seems I recall our team had a need for run stoppers as the season progressed.


This post changed me from "mehhh" to "slightly in favor"

Haha, that's probably about where I stand too actually. I don't think everyone should rag on him as being over the hll, Urlacher is still an elite MLB. I wouldn't replace Wagner with him, but he could have a place on our team.

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One of the finalists for ROY AT MLB and people talk about moving him to WSLB... utter ignorance.


I hate posts like these. Not only is it incorrect, but it paints dissent into a corner. Nobody wants Bobby Wagner to move to WILL. Some of us just happen to think he'd do great there if Seattle decided to make that move. What's so stupid about recognizing flexibility and weighing options?

If Seattle really is talking about Urlacher, I hate to break it to you but it's not to have him play outside linebacker. Is Wagner a better MLB than old Urlacher? Most likely. But just the same, wouldn't a combination of Urlacher/Wagner be better than Wagner/Smith? Wagner has an outstanding WILL skillset, so I can see the angle. I doubt it would be a permanent move, and Seattle has shown a willingness to move players around in the past.


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Haha, that's probably about where I stand too actually. I don't think everyone should rag on him as being over the hll, Urlacher is still an elite MLB. I wouldn't replace Wagner with him, but he could have a place on our team.


I'm not saying that I want us to sign him, but it does sound like Urlacher's got a chip on his shoulder right now, doesn't it?

I haven't watched Urlacher recently. I didn't even watch him close when Seattle played Chicago. Maybe he really is completely washed up. That said, I thought that an ancient Lawyer Milloy was washed up for years before he tore it up a bit in 2010 in Pete's style of defense. I remember thinking that Kurt Warner was washed up for years before the 2008/2009 seasons rolled around. Sometimes even an apparently washed up player can still have a lot in the tank. So for a minimum type deal, I don't see the harm in giving Urlacher a chance to find out which type of old player he is.

Edit: I thought it was pretty funny to see who the #1 worst linebacker at stopping the rush was: Ray Lewis.


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Out of curiousity, is there a track record with this poster's source? Is this the one that reported the Ruvell Martin signing and/or the Houshmandzadeh cut?


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