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 Post subject: Reviewing the Seahawks 2010 draft
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:26 am 
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I believe enough time has finally passed to decide how the Seahawks did in the 2010 draft.

Round 1: LT Russel Okung, FS Earl Thomas

Both of these picks have proven to be very good picks for the Hawks.

The people picked between Okung and Thomas were:
7 CLE Haden, Joe, CB, Florida
8 OAK McClain, Rolando, LB, Alabama
9 BUF Spiller, C.J., RB, Clemson
10 JAX Alualu, Tyson, DE, California
11 SF Davis, Anthony, OT, Rutgers
12 SD Mathews, Ryan, RB, Fresno State
13 PHI Graham, Brandon, DE, Michigan

First round picks after Thomas:
15 NYG Pierre-Paul, Jason, DE, South Florida
16 TEN Morgan, Derrick, DE, Georgia Tech
17 SF Iupati, Mike, OG, Idaho
18 PIT Pouncey, Maurkice, C, Florida
19 ATL Weatherspoon, Sean, LB, Missouri
20 HOU Jackson, Kareem, CB, Alabama
21 CIN Gresham, Jermaine, TE, Oklahoma
22 DEN Thomas, Demaryius, WR, Georgia Tech
23 GB Bulaga, Bryan, OT, Iowa
24 DAL Bryant, Dez, WR, Oklahoma State
25 DEN Tebow, Tim, QB, Florida
26 ARI Williams, Dan, DT, Tennessee
27 NE McCourty, Devin, CB, Rutgers
28 MIA Odrick, Jared, DT, Penn State
29 NYJ Wilson, Kyle, CB, Boise State
30 DET Best, Jahvid, RB, California
31 IND Hughes, Jerry, DE, TCU
32 NO Robinson, Patrick, CB, Florida State

Even with hindsight, I think I still take Okung and Thomas. I could see people make arguments for different people.

Round one grade: A+

Round 2: Golden Tate

2nd round and beginning of third round picks after Tate:
29 NYJ Ducasse, Vlad, OT, Massachusetts
30 NE Spikes, Brandon, LB, Florida
31 IND Angerer, Pat, LB, Iowa
32 NO Brown, Charles, OT, Southern Cal
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1 STL Murphy, Jerome, CB, South Florida
2 DET Spievey, Amari, CB, Iowa
3 TB Lewis, Myron, CB, Vanderbilt
4 KC Asamoah, Jon, OG, Illinois
5 OAK Veldheer, Jared, OT, Hillsdale
6 BAL Dickson, Ed, TE, Oregon
7 GB Burnett, Morgan, SS, Georgia Tech
8 BUF Carrington, Alex, DE, Arkansas State
9 MIA Jerry, John, OT, Mississippi
10 JAX Smith, D'Anthony, DT, Louisiana Tech
11 CHI Wright, Major, FS, Florida
12 NYG Jones, Chad, FS, LSU
13 TEN Williams, Damian, WR, Southern Cal
14 CAR LaFell, Brandon, WR, LSU
15 SD Butler, Donald, LB, Washington
16 DEN Walton, J.D., C, Baylor
17 HOU Mitchell, Earl, DT, Arizona
18 PIT Sanders, Emmanuel, WR, Southern Methodist
19 ATL Peters, Corey, DT, Kentucky
20 CIN Shipley, Jordan, WR, Texas
21 CLE McCoy, Colt, QB, Texas

Golden Tate struggled his first 2 seasons, but last season really blossomed into a solid player. I think in the second round I would still take him. Perhaps an argument could be made to have taken Mike Williams here (round 4 pick) but it would have been considered an EXTREME reach and he didn't do much last season.

Grade: A

Round 3: No picks
Round 4: Walter Thurmond, EJ Wilson

round 4 picks after Thurmond before wilson:

14 NYJ McKnight, Joe, RB, Southern Cal
15 NE Hernandez, Aaron, TE, Florida
16 BAL Pitta, Dennis, TE, BYU
17 NYG Dillard, Phillip, LB, Nebraska
18 PIT Gibson, Thaddeus, DE, Ohio State
19 ATL Hawley, Joe, OG, UNLV
20 HOU Graham, Garrett, TE, Wisconsin
21 MIA Edds, A.J., LB, Iowa
22 CIN Atkins, Geno, DT, Georgia
23 PHI Clayton, Keenan, LB, Oklahoma
24 PHI Kafka, Mike, QB, Northwestern
25 NO Woods, Al, DT, LSU
26 CAR Norwood, Eric, LB, South Carolina
27 PHI Harbor, Clay, TE, Missouri State
28 DAL Owusu-Ansah, Akwasi, CB, Indiana

round 4/5 Picks after Wilson
30 DET Fox, Jason, OT, Miami
31 IND McClendon, Jacques, OG, Tennessee
32 ARI Schofield, O'Brien, DE, Wisconsin
33 CIN Muckelroy, Roddrick, LB, Texas
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1 STL Hoomanawanui, Michael, TE, Illinois

I'm still foolishly holding out a hope that Thurmond turns into a decent player, but he really hasn't done anything for the Seahawks. He has constantly been injured. Using hindsight with the Thurmond pick, I would have taken Dennis Pita.

Definitely should have done something different with the EJ Wilson Pick, but I'm not sure who we should have taken.

Round 4 Grade: B+

Round 5: Kam Chancellor

Round 5 picks after Kam:

3 PHI Sapp, Ricky, DE, Clemson
4 ATL Franks, Dominique, CB, Oklahoma
5 KC Lewis, Kendrick, FS, Mississippi
6 DEN Cox, Perrish, CB, Oklahoma State
7 OAK McFadden, Walter, DB, Auburn
8 NYJ Conner, John, RB, Kentucky
9 BUF Wang, Ed, OT, Virginia Tech
10 CHI Moore, Joshua, DB, Kansas State
11 KC Sheffield, Cameron, DE, Troy
12 JAX Hart, Larry, DE, Central Arkansas
13 HOU McManis, Sherrick, CB, Northwestern
14 MIA Carroll, Nolan, CB, Maryland
15 SD Thomas, Cam, DT, North Carolina
16 NYG Petrus, Mitch, OG, Arkansas
17 TEN Johnson, Robert, DB, Utah
18 STL Davis, Hall, DE, Louisiana-Lafayette
19 NE Mesko, Zoltan, P, Michigan
20 PIT Scott, Chris, OT, Tennessee
21 CIN Hudson, Otis, OG, Eastern Illinois
22 JAX Lane, Austen, DE, Murray State
23 GB Quarless, Andrew, TE, Penn State
24 ARI Skelton, John, QB, Fordham
25 BAL Reed, David, WR, Utah
26 BAL Jones, Art, DT, Syracuse
27 NO Tennant, Matt, C, Boston College
28 PHI Cooper, Riley, WR, Florida
29 CLE Asante, Larry, SS, Nebraska
30 MIN Degeare, Chris, OT, Wake Forest
31 IND Eldridge, Brody, TE, Oklahoma
32 MIA Jones, Reshad, SS, Georgia
33 PIT Butler, Crezdon, CB, Clemson
34 ATL Meier, Kerry, WR, Kansas
35 PIT Sylvester, Stevenson, LB, Utah
36 MIN Triplett, Nathan, LB, Minnesota
37 SD Crompton, Jonathan, QB, Tennessee
38 GB Newhouse, Marshall, OT, TCU


I really don't even need to explain this pick. Amazing pickup for the 5th round.

Round 5 Grade: A+

Round 6: Anthony McCoy

Round 6 after McCoy:
17 CLE Geathers, Clifton, DE, South Carolina
18 HOU Smith, Shelley, OG, Colorado State
19 PIT Dwyer, Jonathan, RB, Georgia Tech
20 STL Sims, Eugene, DE, West Texas AM
21 OAK Goethel, Travis, LB, Arizona State
22 CIN Briscoe, Dezmon, WR, Kansas
23 BUF Batten, Danny, DE, South Dakota State
24 GB Starks, James, RB, Buffalo
25 BAL Harewood, Ramon, OT, Morehouse
26 PIT Brown, Antonio, WR, Central Michigan
27 DAL Wall, Jamar, CB, Texas Tech
28 HOU Holliday, Trindon, KR, LSU
29 CAR Gettis, David, WR, Baylor
30 MIN Webb, Joe, QB, UAB
31 PHI Scott, Charles, RB, LSU
32 ARI Calvin, Jorrick, DB, Troy
33 CAR Pugh, Jordan, DB, Texas A&M
34 JAX McGee, Scotty, KR, James Madison
35 CAR Pike, Tony, QB, Cincinnati
36 NE Larsen, Ted, OL, North Carolina State
37 SF Williams, Kyle, WR, Arizona State
38 TEN Rolle, Myron, SS, Florida State

We got a long term backup in McCoy who has been able to produce for us in critical times.

Round Grade: A

Round 7 Picks: Dexter Davis, Jameson Konz

The round 7 picks are all essentially people nobody knows of. These picks didn't pan out to anything, but neither did anybody elses.
Round Grade: C



Overall, I think the Seahawk's did fairly well in the 2010 draft.

Overall Grade: A-

How do you guys think we did?


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 Post subject: Re: Reviewing the Seahawks 2010 draft
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:38 am 
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Surely with hindsight you take Geno Atkins or Aaron Hernandez over Dennis Pitta?

We drafted 4 starters (two all-pros, one pro-bowler) and a competent #2 TE.

That's an A+ draft - if you could do that every year you'd have the best team in the league after 5 years (or in actual fact, just 3 apparently)


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 Post subject: Re: Reviewing the Seahawks 2010 draft
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pretty good analysis. Hernandez or Pitta over Thurmond would probably have saved us spending the money on Zach Miller, but who knows how we would have spent to pick up another CB instead. Geno Atkins is pretty solid as well and could be a starter for us whereas Thurmond has been injured and hasn't seen many plays. Obviously you never know how future picks would work out if you change one thing, but Jeremy Lane has impressed me quite a bit and he might make Thurmond even less valuable. They must really like Thurmond tho to have kept him around and hanging near the 3rd/4th spot on the depth chart for so long despite his inability to stay on the field.

Okung is the staple of our line, Earl Thomas has proven to be a bigger playmaker and stay much healthier than Eric Berry, and Golden Tate is probably one of my top 3 or 4 favorite players on the team even though I know he doesn't have superstar numbers, I just like watching him play.

Hindsight is always nice but we obviously whiffed on EJ Wilson in RD4, if there were a 're-draft' I would take Riley Cooper WR that the Eagle's took in round 5. More of a depth/ST guy but at least he would be on the team.


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 Post subject: Re: Reviewing the Seahawks 2010 draft
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Actually, I think Pitta is better then Hernandez.

I could see the argument for Atkins, but I think I would still take Pitta.


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 Post subject: Re: Reviewing the Seahawks 2010 draft
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If I had a do-over, knowing what we know now about our team and the guys available, I'd take Geno Atkins over Walter Thurmond in a heart beat. I understand and respect the logic behind the Thurmond pick, and at the time our secondary was in dire need of talent, but Walter just hasn't been able to stay healthy. Atkins on the other hand is a freaking all-pro 3-tech sack machine DT. there is no greater need on our team right now. We'd be a totally different animal defensively with a beast like that applying pressure up the middle.

But, no do-overs so... meh. Still an amazing draft. And I'm still waiting on the Konz to break out.

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 Post subject: Re: Reviewing the Seahawks 2010 draft
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Jeez, looking back that was a pretty good TE class.

Patriots and Ravens walked out winners though.

Patriots got Gronkowski, and Hernandez

Ravens got Ed Dickson & Dennis Pitta

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 Post subject: Re: Reviewing the Seahawks 2010 draft
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2010 Capt. Hindsight draft
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Round 1: Russell Okung, Earl Thomas
Round 2: Geno Atkins
Round 4: Dennis Pitta, Walter Thurmond
Round 5: Kam Chancellor
Round 6: Antonio Brown
Round 7: Victor Cruz

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I remember watching Pita at the combine and thinking how effortlessly he grabbed the ball with his hands. I had no idea about Geno Atkins, but I was bummed we didn't take Pita.


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I remember watching Pita at the combine and thinking how effortlessly he grabbed the ball with his hands. I had no idea about Geno Atkins, but I was bummed we didn't take Pita.



I was too. I'm not a BYU fam, but living in Utah,I saw a lot of him in college. Guy has fantastic hands, catches most anything. I was hoping we would pick him up as well.


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At the time, I would have gone...:

6: Okung (he was the correct choice then and now)
14: I loved Thomas, but I was crazy-high on Morgan. Thomas is easily the better player, though Morgan has been nagged by injuries. In retrospect, JPP may be the best of the lot, but I couldn't justify JPP over Thomas as a prospect.

2nd round: Tate. Tate was talked about as a first-rounder, and I hated him in that spot. But, when he fell into the late second, he was the easy choice then, and probably still the correct choice.

4th: Thurmond. I loved this pick!!! And I still think that he's a better player than the depth chart conveys. I may have gone DT here (I liked Atkins) but couldn't fault Thurmond. He's a fine player, but there was probably a better option in retrospect.

4th: Wilson. I hated the pick then and I hate the pick now. Like the OP - not sure who I would have gone.

5th: Kam. I was wrong about Kam. Or rather, I was right about him before I was wrong about him... I didn't like Kam as a prospect. He was stiff, tall, and slow to react. His track speed didn't show on film, and I kinda hated him as a prospect. I thought he had a bad camp and a horrid rookie year (especially the first half); I remember thinking that he was going to get cut in the 2011 camp. But wow did he figure it out! Short of JPP, no one in this draft did more to develop potential into talent, and I have a huge amount of respect for him for that. Today, he is on the short list for best SS in the NFL.

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Can you imagine if we could swap out Thurmond for Atkins... ahhh what could have been.

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On the flip side if teams could redraft, you can bet Kam, Thomas, and Russell would have all gone top 20 and Tate might slip into the bottom of the 1st round.


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