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 Post subject: The Ravens Won't Win More Than 5 Games (amended to 6 or less
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I guarantee it.

Get in touch with Largent80s bookie. I'm sure he is offering 16-1 odds.

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Heh. No way they have that huge a letdown as a defending champ. That division isn't nearly what it used to be.

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I can't believe the Favens were picked apart like that during FA on both sides if the ball so far. I'm not complaining as we helped by stealing Boldin for only a 6th, but I believe that the Steelers will rebound this year and that for the second year in a row the defending SB champs might miss the playoffs all together.

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Heh. No way they have that huge a letdown as a defending champ. That division isn't nearly what it used to be.


Are you kidding? Cleveland and Cincy are both on the upswing and better than they have been in years. Coupled with the retirement of Birk and Lewis the loss of McKinnie Reed the other middle linebacker and Kruger and starting strong safety Pollard.

They have lost half their starters.

They're doomed.

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That conference is primed for four 8-8 teams this year.

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I can't believe the Favens were picked apart like that during FA on both sides if the ball so far. I'm not complaining as we helped by stealing Boldin for only a 6th, but I believe that the Steelers will rebound this year and that for the second year in a row the defending SB champs might miss the playoffs all together.


Cincy will win the division. That will be my largest non-Seahawks related futures bet of the offseason.

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That conference is primed for four 8-8 teams this year.


It's a division, technically.

Unless you mean the conference will see four 8-8 teams win their divisions, which would be hilarious.

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bestfightstory wrote:
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I can't believe the Favens were picked apart like that during FA on both sides if the ball so far. I'm not complaining as we helped by stealing Boldin for only a 6th, but I believe that the Steelers will rebound this year and that for the second year in a row the defending SB champs might miss the playoffs all together.


Cincy will win the division. That will be my largest non-Seahawks related futures bet of the offseason.


16-1 odds?

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I can't believe the Favens were picked apart like that during FA on both sides if the ball so far. I'm not complaining as we helped by stealing Boldin for only a 6th, but I believe that the Steelers will rebound this year and that for the second year in a row the defending SB champs might miss the playoffs all together.


Cincy will win the division. That will be my largest non-Seahawks related futures bet of the offseason.


16-1 odds?



If I can find Largent80's bookie, at least.

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That conference is primed for four 8-8 teams this year.


It's a division, technically.

Unless you mean the conference will see four 8-8 teams win their divisions, which would be hilarious.


Yea, division. It's early, and I haven't finished my coffee. At least that's the story I'm sticking to. Also just saw this flash by on Twitter:

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The only major losses they've had are Ellerbee and Boldin imo. Ray Lewis & Ed Reed are both legends but were liabilities for the most part on a 26th ranked defense, and Kruger is not worth what the Browns signed him to


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I just bothered to glance at their 2013 opponents.

Allow me to reiterate my conviction that the Baltimore Ravens WILL NOT win 6 games this coming year.

BOOK IT!

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I just bothered to glance at their 2013 opponents.

Allow me to reiterate my conviction that the Baltimore Ravens WILL NOT win 6 games this coming year.

BOOK IT!


But they've got Joe Flacco, the highest paid player in football! Joey Flaxseed Oil! He's a winner! Dude just knows how to win! How will the Ravens lose so much if Joe Flacco only knows how to win?!

Bengals take the division, Browns come in a surprising 2nd. The Stealers and Ravens rot in hell AKA the basement of the AFC North. I actually like that a lot. I can't stand the hype the Ravens/Steelers rivalry gets. Hopefully both teams tank it this season, but I still see Baltimore winning 8 games.

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The only major losses they've had are Ellerbee and Boldin imo. Ray Lewis & Ed Reed are both legends but were liabilities for the most part on a 26th ranked defense, and Kruger is not worth what the Browns signed him to


Sometimes in very rare cases a players presence on the field is worth more than his skill set at the time.

Ray Lewis was one of those players. It wasn't an accident their season completely transformed when he came back.

And Kruger may not have been worth what Cleveland paid, however he is a HUGE loss. I got to agree 6-10 is probably what they are looking at.


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I just bothered to glance at their 2013 opponents.

Allow me to reiterate my conviction that the Baltimore Ravens WILL NOT win 6 games this coming year.

BOOK IT!


What do we get if you're wrong?

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I just bothered to glance at their 2013 opponents.

Allow me to reiterate my conviction that the Baltimore Ravens WILL NOT win 6 games this coming year.

BOOK IT!


What do we get if you're wrong?


Further evidence that "BOOK IT" is internet slang for "This will never, ever happen"?

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RolandDeschain wrote:
bestfightstory wrote:
I just bothered to glance at their 2013 opponents.

Allow me to reiterate my conviction that the Baltimore Ravens WILL NOT win 6 games this coming year.

BOOK IT!


What do we get if you're wrong?


Further evidence that "BOOK IT" is internet slang for "This will never, ever happen"?


I approve this message.

I HATE the cliche that is "BOOK IT"


But I won't be wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: The Ravens Won't Win More Than 5 Games
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I give them 16-1 odds to finish with 6 wins or less.

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I give them 16-1 odds to finish with 6 wins or less.

Book it!



I think we have found Largent80s bookie!!!

You also offer 16-1 odds on more than 6 wins, correct?

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I give them 16-1 odds to finish with 6 wins or less.

Book it!


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I'm not sold on it. I think Johnbaugh is worth more wins than that with half of a roster. I remember folks claiming that the Hawks wouldn't win more than 4 games in 2010 and that SF or AZ would win the division.

I am going to give them 8-8, but still pick Cincy to win the division. They still have Flacco, Rice, Torrey, Jones and fair OLine don't they?

Their defense was decimated, but I think they will be better than 6 wins. I actually think the Steelers are going to be flat and that Cleveland will be a tough 7-9 team.

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Outside of Ellerby I think they are fine. I don't think they win the SB necessarily but I still think they win the North.


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I don't think they win the North, but they go 8-8 probably.

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They still have Flacco, Rice, Torrey, Jones and fair OLine don't they?


Actually Matt Birk retired and Bryant McKinnie is a free agent. So they will lose some talent and continuity on their o-line.


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No chance.

The attention hor that does the stupid dance is gone.

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8-8 or 9-7. Enough offense with Flaccid and Rice to be decent. Cincy wins the division. Hope Pissburgh goes 0-16.

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This is a good call. If I can get down to mesquite/Vegas, ill make some bets.

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8-8 or 9-7. Enough offense with Flaccid and Rice to be decent. Cincy wins the division. Hope Pissburgh goes 0-16.


No, I hope they go bad enough to get the #2 overall pick, not the #1. 3-13 should suffice.

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This is a good call. If I can get down to mesquite/Vegas, ill make some bets.


Divisions and season win totals won't post in Vegas until after schedules and draft are complete.

Make sure you hit up Largent80s bookie!! They offer 16-1 odds when everybody else on earth is offering -110!!

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This change anyone's mind about the Ravens?


14-2.

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This change anyone's mind about the Ravens?


Nope. He still can't do the attention hor dance.

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Ravens are still an 8-9 win team

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Is it really?


He must not read pehawk's posts very often.

And I can see this going either way, but they still have Ray Rice and Torrey Smith on offense. They should at least be respectable there, and that'll win a couple games.

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Umm, did Harbaugh leave? Flacco, Rice...oh and maybe the best player in the NFL, Ngata all leave too? Who's this Suggs I keep hearing about?


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They'll be a playoff team. Ozzie Newsome is one of the best in the business. He'll put a winner on the field.

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They'll be a playoff team. Ozzie Newsome is one of the best in the business. He'll put a winner on the field.

Yeah, I think so, too. He's lost some decent players who'd have been nice to re-sign like Cary Williams and Ellerbee, but they've also let other teams overpay guys like Paul Kruger and let guys like Ed Reed walk for the kind of money they want. This team drafts exceptionally well, makes prudent moves, and even though I'm not sure I like the amount he's getting paid, brought in Dumervil as a solid improvement over Kruger for less than Paul got in FA. The Ravens are just dealing with what we'll inevitably have to deal with if we're going to be any good, paying big money to their homegrown guys who have earned it, being forced to let guys you'd love to keep for the right price walk when they command the wrong one, and making smart value moves + continuing to draft well to stay relevant and stocked.


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Okay. they got Dumerville. Hip hip hooray. I will confess to low-balling them with 5 wins and am willing to concede they MAY get to six.

But that is all.

They will NOT win the division an they will NOT make the playoffs.

Six wins MAXIMUM.

Cincy or Cleveland take the division and I will be wagering it is Cincy (who has three draft picks in the first two rounds).

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I'm gonna predict at least 9 wins for the Ravens next season.

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I'm gonna predict at least 9 wins for the Ravens next season.

Care to make some kind of phony internet tough-guy wager, Leif?


Absolutely, what do you have in mind?

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 Post subject: Re: The Ravens Won't Win More Than 5 Games
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peachesenregalia wrote:
I'm gonna predict at least 9 wins for the Ravens next season.

Care to make some kind of phony internet tough-guy wager, Leif?


Absolutely, what do you have in mind?


I'll admit, I wasn't prepared for you to accept. Nothing monetary, as I think that's against forum rules. Ok, how about this, if I win, you're no longer allowed to make your unfunny schtick-type posts in response to people EXCEPT for Mystery Matt, who you will disparage at every turn. this includes no more allusions to Largent80's 16-1 bet, or any other of your thinly-veiled snarky comments or remarks. You can only reply with serious statements, questions or observations, until the beginning of the 2014 season. You can, however, troll Mystery Matt until your heart's content.

You can come up with my forfeit should I lose the wager. naturally, we'll both have to agree to these respective forfeits. Perhaps the mods could help us enforce? I dunno.

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 Post subject: Re: The Ravens Won't Win More Than 5 Games
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Unlike any of you, I dont care who wins the bet, I JUST want the terms met.

And, keep Matt out of this, honestly. And he'll do the same. You guys all used to be friends, and I remember when you we're Matt's daughter, peaches, so I know you love him. Problem is you've forgotten how to love, peaches. It's sad, really. Peaches is running around here seeking the .net equivalent of a hair tussle (don’t do it peaches, just don’t!).


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Unlike any of you, I dont care who wins the bet, I JUST want the terms met.

And, keep Matt out of this, honestly. And he'll do the same. You guys all used to be friends, and I remember when you we're Matt's daughter, peaches, so I know you love him. Problem is you've forgotten how to love, peaches. It's sad, really. Peaches is running around here seeking the .net equivalent of a hair tussle (don’t do it peaches, just don’t!).


Tousle.

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 Post subject: Re: The Ravens Won't Win More Than 5 Games
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peachesenregalia wrote:
bestfightstory wrote:
peachesenregalia wrote:
I'm gonna predict at least 9 wins for the Ravens next season.

Care to make some kind of phony internet tough-guy wager, Leif?


Absolutely, what do you have in mind?


I'll admit, I wasn't prepared for you to accept. Nothing monetary, as I think that's against forum rules. Ok, how about this, if I win, you're no longer allowed to make your unfunny schtick-type posts in response to people EXCEPT for Mystery Matt, who you will disparage at every turn. this includes no more allusions to Largent80's 16-1 bet, or any other of your thinly-veiled snarky comments or remarks. You can only reply with serious statements, questions or observations, until the beginning of the 2014 season. You can, however, troll Mystery Matt until your heart's content.

You can come up with my forfeit should I lose the wager. naturally, we'll both have to agree to these respective forfeits. Perhaps the mods could help us enforce? I dunno.



The part about Matt is stupid and invalidates everything else you wrote. I don't think the mods want involvement in this either. Try again, if you like.

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 Post subject: Re: The Ravens Won't Win More Than 5 Games
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Alright then, beardy-ballicks. What'd YOU have in mind?

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