Scottemojo wrote:It is reported that this would have been called 5 times last year.

I will bet money it gets called more than 5 times this year. The refs will error on this one.

Fuzzman55 wrote:

HawkAroundTheClock wrote:For people who keep saying this is "ruining the game" I have to wonder, were my high school coaches ruining the game also when they taught us to never initiate contact with the top of our helmet on either side of the ball?

The way I see it, upset fans seem to have 2 different angles for their rage:

1. The reduction of violent collisions (which includes the 'two-hand touch' and 'pussification' crowds)
2. The in-game officials having too much subjective power

I can see the 2nd, but anyone upset by #1 must also think that youngsters have been taught the wrong way to play football – as it pertains to the crown of the helmet – since at least the 1990s.

They are talking about abandoning kickoffs. They've already almost made return specialists irrelevant by moving up the kickoff spot. How is that not changing the game? What about laying WRs out across the middle? A staple of players like Sam Huff, Ronnie Lott, and Tatum. That's gone. Now the RB, a position that up until this point has been sacrosanct because he's carrying the ball, is being meddled with. Walter Payton would laugh at the absurdity. They are indeed trying to change the game and the way it's played. If you can't see that I don't know what to tell you.

Rog is a lawyer and he's administering the league like a lawyer, with the approval of the owners. I have little patience anymore with their ridiculous fake crusade. It's probably why I get so irritated by the continuous stream of rules they insist on pushing through.

JSeahawks wrote:My guess is that we won't even know this rule exists in 90% of games and it will not have any impact and we won't notice a different. Freaking out about nothing.

Fuzzman55 wrote:
They are talking about abandoning kickoffs. They've already almost made return specialists irrelevant by moving up the kickoff spot. How is that not changing the game? What about laying WRs out across the middle? A staple of players like Sam Huff, Ronnie Lott, and Tatum. That's gone. Now the RB, a position that up until this point has been sacrosanct because he's carrying the ball, is being meddled with. Walter Payton would laugh at the absurdity. They are indeed trying to change the game and the way it's played. If you can't see that I don't know what to tell you.

Rog is a lawyer and he's administering the league like a lawyer, with the approval of the owners. I have little patience anymore with their ridiculous fake crusade. It's probably why I get so irritated by the continuous stream of rules they insist on pushing through.

JSeahawks wrote:My guess is that we won't even know this rule exists in 90% of games and it will not have any impact and we won't notice a different. Freaking out about nothing.

el capitan wrote:All this player safety BS is really starting to piss me off. Nobody forces the players to play, they all choose to because it beats pumping gas or working a checkout at Walmart.
There are so many far more dangerous jobs done by hard working people who never come close to seeing a million dollars in their whole lifetime never mind the tens of millions that some of these nancy boys make.
Another rule change or two similar to this one and it won't be long before teams are regularly racking up more penalty yards than passing yards.

McG wrote:I already posted earlier, but this league is starting to become a joke to me. If you can get past the 120-180min of commercials and stoppages and actually get to the 60mins of game time then you are a pro in your own right. It's just getting to point of unwatchable and all the pussy rules and over advertising is starting to make me sick. Unreal.

lukerguy wrote:Also, on the Lynch hit vs. Goldson he hits his shoulder & head into him. I would be shocked if that is an illegal hit based upon what I've read and how to interpret it.

lukerguy wrote:Also, on the Lynch hit vs. Goldson he hits his shoulder & head into him. I would be shocked if that is an illegal hit based upon what I've read and how to interpret it.

Trrrroy wrote:So the new rule is essentially taking spearing, which has been illegal for years on the defensive side of the ball, and extending that over to the offense?

JSeahawks wrote:

Trrrroy wrote:So the new rule is essentially taking spearing, which has been illegal for years on the defensive side of the ball, and extending that over to the offense?

Yes. But only if its in the open field.

Trrrroy wrote:

JSeahawks wrote:

Trrrroy wrote:So the new rule is essentially taking spearing, which has been illegal for years on the defensive side of the ball, and extending that over to the offense?

Yes. But only if its in the open field.

HOW UNREASONABLE!!!

Seriously, this rule change is miniscule.

6 pages of posts is 5.5 pages too many.

Pstark3 wrote:Mike Rob and Marshawn Lynch disgusted by the rule..

Rob said Marshawn even said "I dont wanna play anymore"

Live on Total access right now. Wow.

JSeahawks wrote:

Pstark3 wrote:Mike Rob and Marshawn Lynch disgusted by the rule..

Rob said Marshawn even said "I dont wanna play anymore"

Live on Total access right now. Wow.

I dont think i've ever seen Marshawn lead with the crown of his helmet. I'd be surprised if he drew a single flag next season.

He did plant his facemask about 8 inches into Goldston's chest though.

Pstark3 wrote:

JSeahawks wrote:

Pstark3 wrote:Mike Rob and Marshawn Lynch disgusted by the rule..

Rob said Marshawn even said "I dont wanna play anymore"

Live on Total access right now. Wow.

I dont think i've ever seen Marshawn lead with the crown of his helmet. I'd be surprised if he drew a single flag next season.

He did plant his facemask about 8 inches into Goldston's chest though.

Mike Rob said that he was taught his whole life to deliver the blow, and not to accept it, and looking at this new rule, in real time, is gonna be extremely tough for power backs to deliver the blow when the defender is getting low

JSeahawks wrote:

Pstark3 wrote:

JSeahawks wrote:

I dont think i've ever seen Marshawn lead with the crown of his helmet. I'd be surprised if he drew a single flag next season.

He did plant his facemask about 8 inches into Goldston's chest though.

Mike Rob said that he was taught his whole life to deliver the blow, and not to accept it, and looking at this new rule, in real time, is gonna be extremely tough for power backs to deliver the blow when the defender is getting low

I bet he was never taught to do it with his head down and lead with the top of his head.

He can deliver the blow and run exactly how he has his whole career. There's nothing saying they can't lower their head to take on contact. Or even lower their head to initiate contact. Just do it with your head up like all football players are taught since middle school.

Pstark3 wrote:I understand that, but the problem comes from making these calls in real time. games can be decided way to easily by refs now IMHO

Scottemojo wrote:Would the hit Mike Rob delivered to Tim Jennings last year have been penalized? Rob put the crown of his helmet into Jennings shoulder in the open field, trucked that little guy, and broke his shoulder in a great open field play.

We might have lost that game with this rule. Think about that.

JSeahawks wrote:I can see that side of the argument, but then we should be complaining about the officials, not about the rule. Its just part of the human part of sports and will always be there.