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Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:36 am
  • Outside of SF, i don't see one team on our home schedule I'm scared of, Tampa and NO have no defense, St. Louis is still somewhat flawed. If the hawks won 8 home games with that home schedule last year, they should this year
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:39 am
  • I'll take 12-0. 2 Preseason, 8-0 regular season, and 2 post season wins.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:39 am
  • Yes, disappointing. I am disappointed with any loss.
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Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:40 am
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:55 am
  • I mean it shouldn't be expected, but I'd be very disappointed if we lost any home games this year.

    The strongest homefield advantage in the league and superbowl favourites shouldn't be losing any home games at all
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:57 am
  • All Teams lose games but somehow seahawks fans don't seem to realize that sometimes. Can't wait for the epic meltdown of doom on this board when that happens.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:59 am
  • themunn wrote:I mean it shouldn't be expected, but I'd be very disappointed if we lost any home games this year.

    The strongest homefield advantage in the league and superbowl favourites shouldn't be losing any home games at all


    I'm with this.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:18 pm
  • davidonmi wrote:Outside of SF, i don't see one team on our home schedule I'm scared of, Tampa and NO have no defense, St. Louis is still somewhat flawed. If the hawks won 8 home games with that home schedule last year, they should this year


    I wouldnt even be afraid of SF at home Kraeprnick will crap the bed again, the guy looked like a deer caught in the headlights. I expect them to go 10-0 at home (playoffs included).
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:19 pm
  • At this point any loss is a disappointment because i think this team can take on anyone, but at the same time only one team has gone undefeated and i dont see it happening again. All i want this season is to go into the playoffs with momentum.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:21 pm
  • Don't worry, only 5 more months.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:32 pm
  • There is a reason they play the games.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:43 pm
  • As an objective observer I really am having a hard time envisioning Seattle losing a single game at home. Yes, theoretically the 49ers are a good enough team to do it. Then again... 42-13. So I doubt see that, either. Otherwise, you take a relatively easy home schedule (49ERS, RAMS, CARDINALS, SAINTS, BUCCANEERS, VIKINGS, TITANS, JAGUARS), the most effective and vociferous "12th-man" in the NFL, and a supremely talented team and you've got one that shouldn't- and probably won't- lose a single home game all year.

    The 49ers appear to have the scheduling advantage because San Francisco gets to face the two best teams in the AFC South at home (the Texans and Colts), while the Seahawks have to go on the road for those two contests. But Seattle, all things being equal, is a superior team to both Houston and Indianapolis and could still beat both, even away from home. But at home? Seattle is absolutely invulnerable- I don't expect a single home loss in 2013. If they get past- or once again trounce- San Francisco... there shouldn't be any other potential stumbling blocks.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:52 pm
  • ON PAPER, we should go 8-0 at home. But, obviously, that's not how it works.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:34 pm
  • I expect us to win them all at home. I would be disappointed with a home loss, but in looking at it, the two teams most likely to beat us would be SF and STL.

    Yes, we trounced SF at the end of last year, but we had a blocked FG returned for a TD, and Davis and Manningham both got knocked out with injury, and their best player (J. Smith) was out for that game. Those events probably won't reoccur again, so while I expect us to beat them, I don't expect another blow out.

    The Rams DL owns our OL, and our OL is the exact same as last year. Overall, we're a better team but we struggled to beat them while we were white hot last year, and they beat us at STL (although they struggled to beat us). Either way, we won't blow them out either.

    So while I'm as confident as the next fan, I don't think it will be a cake walk and in expecting close games, you have to reasonable expect it's very possible to lose.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:40 pm
  • BlueTalon wrote:Yes, disappointing. I am disappointed with any loss.


    This. ^^

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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:54 pm
  • As a season ticket holder, yes.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:17 pm
  • I am disappointed with any loss.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:26 pm
  • Every loss is a disappointment and always has been. I expect to go undefeated at home each year and take the losses very personally.

    As expectations go: less than 13 wins on the season will be a disappointment to me and less than 12 will be an EXTREME disappointment. (Unless 11 wins somehow wins the #1 seed in the NFC which would indicate some strong competition throughout the Conference). I'm not AS concerned where those losses come from because 12 or 13 wins in an NFL season is quite an accomplishment.

    One thing that is uniquely fun is that Russell Wilson has NEVER lost a Seattle start in his career.
    10-0 currently.
    How incredible would it be if he were to add 12 more wins to that tally?

    By the way. I predict Vegas will have our over/under for total wins set at 11.5. Last year we were 7.5.....
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:31 pm
  • We lose one at home this year, to the 8-8 Rams, on a fluke.

    Home field advantage in the playoffs gets us to the first of six superbowls (4wins) in the Wilson era.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:55 pm
  • Seattle only had 3 close games at home last year. The Packers, Patriots, and Rams. And honestly, I didn't feel the Rams game was truly close- Seattle just kind of got in their own way but by the time they straightened things out it was pretty clear they were going to win. I think we'd probably beat the Rams by 17 if there had been a 5th quarter. The Packers and Patriots were two elite teams that play well on the road, and they faced Seattle before they added the read option wrinkle and before Wilson truly took off at QB.

    Here is the list of next year's home opponents:

    San Francisco: A probable win
    St. Louis: A probable win
    Arizona: An extremely likely win
    New Orleans: A probable win
    Tampa Bay: A very likely win
    Jacksonville: An extremely likely win
    Tennessee: An extremely likely win
    Minnesota: A probable win

    I think SF, STL, and NO will present a challenge, but will probably all be wins. The rest will all be easy to moderately easy wins.

    I think people forget that Seattle was playing at a historically high level in their final 10 games. We're talking 2007 Patriots level. And that was before the events of this offseason. You could make a very reasonable case that the 2013 Seahawks could end up being the best football team in NFL history. This is a team that should have won 13 games last season (FO) and probably just added a win or two with their additions already.

    I think we'll lose a couple of games on the road. We'll be 13-3 or 14-2 overall. I think we will win the division with more ease than people seem to be expecting.

    And while it's fair to read all this and think "homer!", the fact is, Seattle will never have a better collection of talent than they will in 2013. After next year, salary cap realities will begin to set in and we'll gradually start losing players. Soon we'll have to pay Okung and Thomas and they won't be cheap. Then we'll have to sign Sherman to megabucks. Then it's probably Joe Flacco money for Wilson. We'll probably have something like 70% of our 2013 talent level in 2016, most likely. And around that same time, you'll probably see Lynch's career winding down. If there is a year to make a run at "23-0", 2013 is the year to do it.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:00 pm
  • Wow! That is an easy home schedule. 14-2
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:28 pm
  • kearly wrote:And while it's fair to read all this and think "homer!", the fact is, Seattle will never have a better collection of talent than they will in 2013. After next year, salary cap realities will begin to set in and we'll gradually start losing players. Soon we'll have to pay Okung and Thomas and they won't be cheap. Then we'll have to sign Sherman to megabucks. Then it's probably Joe Flacco money for Wilson. We'll probably have something like 70% of our 2013 talent level in 2016, most likely. And around that same time, you'll probably see Lynch's career winding down. If there is a year to make a run at "23-0", 2013 is the year to do it.


    How much do you expect Okung to get?
    Given he signed a 6 year contract worth 48 million it shouldn't be terrifically more than that (and also, given it was a 6 year contract he probably won't get extended until halfway through year 5, ie mid-2014).
    His contract will probably be dictated by what Jake Long gets (4x pro-bowler, 2x all-pro), who is looking for somewhere in the region of 5 years 55 million.
    Considering Okung is a pretty down to earth guy I'd be surprised if he was "insulted" by a 5 year 50m deal (a little less to stay on a team of quality, rather than signing with the Dolphins or Rams), which isn't much more than we're paying already, so cap figure shouldn't change too much.

    ET is a different story, his contract was only 5 years 21 million, so he should be getting extended sometime this season, in all likelihood that figure will be doubled to match the Goldson deal, though I'm sure our contract guys will try and negotiate ET down a bit with the proviso that they can use the money to extend other skill players.

    Guys DO want to be the best paid, but they also want to win. If you go into negotiations offering players good money (I mean, 35 million over 5 years is hardly something scoff at), but with the understanding that the 7 million saved compared to Goldson means they'll be more likely to keep Sherman, for example, players will be more willing to listen.

    Sherman mentioned it when asked if he wanted to be the highest paid corner on NFL am, he said something which translated along the lines of "it'd be nice, but I'm not going to jeopardise the future of the team by being greedy"

    I think team strength is a major reason we got Avril and Bennett on such great deals, though the latter is clearly aware that if he puts in a decent season this year he'll be a free agent in a much more expensive market next year.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:37 pm
  • themunn wrote:I think team strength is a major reason we got Avril and Bennett on such great deals

    Exactly. The Jags and Bills wouldn't have gotten deals like those.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:46 pm
  • True, Okung will probably get a continuation of his current pay. Which just proves how insane the old rookie pay scale was.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:26 pm
  • Things change year to year, but it's worth noting that just two teams on Seattle's 2013 home game docket finished with a winning record last year. Seattle actually played both of those teams in Seattle last season. Seattle won both games, and won by a combined score of 72-33.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:29 pm
  • What's the unbeaten at home for X games record?
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:40 pm
  • A London Hawk wrote:What's the unbeaten at home for X games record?


    I immediately thought of the same thing....



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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:45 pm
  • Keep in mind that the undefeated Russell Wilson streak I mentioned included the 2 preseason games he started last year.

    Obviously, they don't "count" but the significance is that he has NEVER walked off the field in Seattle as a loser in the entirety of his professional career.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:35 pm
  • Keep in mind, we were extremely healthy last year - probably the most healthy that I can ever remember.

    *I'll be mad if we lose a game, but it'd make more sense to me if we are missing a key piece (like Beast or RW)
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:36 pm
  • I'd rather go 8-0 on the road. And 7-1 at home.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:48 pm
  • I won't be that disappointed, because the Rams are getting much better and that will be a tough battle. It's the road schedule that's brutal and will probably keep people saying we can't win on the road.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:10 pm
  • bestfightstory wrote:Keep in mind that the undefeated Russell Wilson streak I mentioned included the 2 preseason games he started last year.

    Obviously, they don't "count" but the significance is that he has NEVER walked off the field in Seattle as a loser in the entirety of his professional career.


    I thought I replied earlier to this but apparently not... agreed he has never walked off of the the field in Seattle as a loser... but he didn't start the game against Tennessee
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:21 pm
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    bestfightstory wrote:Keep in mind that the undefeated Russell Wilson streak I mentioned included the 2 preseason games he started last year.

    Obviously, they don't "count" but the significance is that he has NEVER walked off the field in Seattle as a loser in the entirety of his professional career.


    I thought I replied earlier to this but apparently not... agreed he has never walked off of the the field in Seattle as a loser... but he didn't start the game against Tennessee


    Aha-good catch. So RW is 9-0 as a starter in all games played in Seattle and the team is undefeated/10-0 at home since RW arrived.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:35 pm
  • bellingerga wrote:All Teams lose games but somehow seahawks fans don't seem to realize that sometimes. Can't wait for the epic meltdown of doom on this board when that happens.



    WTF?!? The Seahawks are never going to lose another game, of that I'm certain. Russel Wilson will bring Seattle eternal perfection! I think you need to go adjust your attitude dude! :sarcasm_off:
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:55 am
  • no I would be ok with 7-1, even 6-2 depending on the schedule and the teams we lost to. Obviously 8-0 is the benchmark but we cant get greedy here. If we expect to be a superbowl contender we need to win At Least 6 home games and be more than great on the road.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:31 am
  • The people saying 8-0 at home should be expected are drastically underestimating the variance of NFL games. If we are 90% to win each home game, we would be less than 50% to go 8-0 in those games. And 90% is a ridiculous over-estimation for how likely we are to win each game. A 90% favorite to win translates to a 17 point favorite in Vegas which is incredibly rare. From 2000 to 2011, there were a total of 13 NFL games where one team was favored by 17 or more. If you say we are 75% to win (translates to 8.5 point favorites) the 49ers and Saints games and 90% to win the others, we would be less than 30% to go 8-0 at home. If you say we are on average 80% to win each home game (translates to 10.5 point favorites), we would be less than 17% to go 8-0 at home.
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:57 am
  • FreshlySnipes wrote:no I would be ok with a superbowl.



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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:58 am
  • jewhawk wrote:The people saying 8-0 at home should be expected are drastically underestimating the variance of NFL games. If we are 90% to win each home game, we would be less than 50% to go 8-0 in those games. And 90% is a ridiculous over-estimation for how likely we are to win each game. A 90% favorite to win translates to a 17 point favorite in Vegas which is incredibly rare. From 2000 to 2011, there were a total of 13 NFL games where one team was favored by 17 or more. If you say we are 75% to win (translates to 8.5 point favorites) the 49ers and Saints games and 90% to win the others, we would be less than 30% to go 8-0 at home. If you say we are on average 80% to win each home game (translates to 10.5 point favorites), we would be less than 17% to go 8-0 at home.


    Interesting take. I am curious where you get these percentages. I have never seen vegas lines equated that way.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:36 am
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    jewhawk wrote:The people saying 8-0 at home should be expected are drastically underestimating the variance of NFL games. If we are 90% to win each home game, we would be less than 50% to go 8-0 in those games. And 90% is a ridiculous over-estimation for how likely we are to win each game. A 90% favorite to win translates to a 17 point favorite in Vegas which is incredibly rare. From 2000 to 2011, there were a total of 13 NFL games where one team was favored by 17 or more. If you say we are 75% to win (translates to 8.5 point favorites) the 49ers and Saints games and 90% to win the others, we would be less than 30% to go 8-0 at home. If you say we are on average 80% to win each home game (translates to 10.5 point favorites), we would be less than 17% to go 8-0 at home.


    Interesting take. I am curious where you get these percentages. I have never seen vegas lines equated that way.

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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:49 pm
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    FreshlySnipes wrote:no I would be ok with a superbowl.



    Hey, Snipes, did you finish your research project?

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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:44 am
  • Going back to two years ago,how long is the current home winning streak?I am wondering if we are close to a club record?
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:56 am
  • Looking back,we lost our last home game of the previous season,so the streak stands at 8.
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Re: Would anything less than an 8-0 home record be disappointing
Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:16 pm
  • jewhawk wrote:The people saying 8-0 at home should be expected are drastically underestimating the variance of NFL games. If we are 90% to win each home game, we would be less than 50% to go 8-0 in those games. And 90% is a ridiculous over-estimation for how likely we are to win each game. A 90% favorite to win translates to a 17 point favorite in Vegas which is incredibly rare. From 2000 to 2011, there were a total of 13 NFL games where one team was favored by 17 or more. If you say we are 75% to win (translates to 8.5 point favorites) the 49ers and Saints games and 90% to win the others, we would be less than 30% to go 8-0 at home. If you say we are on average 80% to win each home game (translates to 10.5 point favorites), we would be less than 17% to go 8-0 at home.

    Alright Spock! You convinced me. Full warp speed, this teams going undefeated in 2013!!!!!!
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