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 Post subject: Mike Florio: Harvin contract "won't be close" to Fitz money
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Profootballtalk.com reports that a new contract for Percy Harvin is already in place with the Seahawks.
CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora previously suggested Harvin could command $12 million annually, which would make him the league's third-highest paid receiver behind Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald. PFT's Mike Florio confirms Harvin's deal "won't be close" to Megatron and Fitz. The bottom line is Harvin isn't a one-year rental in Seattle. They're locking up the 24-year-old long term.


I know this is kind of meaningless since we'll know the details a few hours from now, but it sounds like Harvin's contract may not be quite the albatross as was initially feared.


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I don't think Pete and John would have made the trade for Harvin if Harvin was demanding 12 million a year.

My guess is it'll be more in the 8-9 million a year range, but for 4-5 years.

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I'll be very very surprised if it's less than what Bowe and V.Jackson got. They both got 5 year 53-55mil. Anything less and we are getting a bargin. I expect Mike Wallace to get about the same yet he dosn't have near the versatility and impact on the game Harvin will have.

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I laughed when I first heard the 12 mil figure. That's not happening

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If he's second tier as mentioned in another thread, figure it's going to be around Sidney's 5 year/41 million contract. I'm going to guess 5 years/ 48 million with 24 guaranteed.

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Percy is not second tier.

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I laughed when I first heard the 12 mil figure. That's not happening


Fitz gets about 16.5M a year and got 50M guaranteed.. that doesn't mean Harvin won't get 12-13M a year with 25-30M guaranteed.

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I don't think Pete and John would have made the trade for Harvin if Harvin was demanding 12 million a year.

My guess is it'll be more in the 8-9 million a year range, but for 4-5 years.



I still think it will be north of 10 mil. Both Bowe and V Jack are at ~11 per so it could conceivably be higher than those.


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If he's second tier as mentioned in another thread, figure it's going to be around Sidney's 5 year/41 million contract. I'm going to guess 5 years/ 48 million with 24 guaranteed.


I'd be fine with this deal..


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Previously I was expecting 13 or 14 million per. Now I'm expecting 11 or 12.


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Not new news, and was already covered in the Harvin thread in the last three pages.

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I'm sticking to my 6 years 66 mil 28 guaranteed guess

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Could be that Harvin and his agent threw out the "Fitz/Megatron type money" rumors to scare off some of the weaker teams in the league. By publicly demanding so much money, you're basically limiting a possible trade to only the serious contenders. Most serious contenders usually have at least a solid QB, which is apparently what he wanted. I want to think that he'd take non-big 2 money in order to facilitate a trade to a true, proven contender like Seattle with an excellent QB who's the same age as him and on the rise.

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If it is below Bowe then it is a HUGE amount guaranteed

I agree with those that expects around $11-$12 million but maybe "not more" than $20-25million guaranteed


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10m-12m sounds good as long as Harvin can be healthy for 16 games. any number lower than 10m seems good bargain


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CornerHawk wrote:
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I don't think Pete and John would have made the trade for Harvin if Harvin was demanding 12 million a year.

My guess is it'll be more in the 8-9 million a year range, but for 4-5 years.



I still think it will be north of 10 mil. Both Bowe and V Jack are at ~11 per so it could conceivably be higher than those.


If It's a 3 yr deal, then I agree with you. I'm hoping that the concession is more years for a little less money. That way the cap hit isn't so big.

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More years will mean less cap hit up front, and an out towards the end of the contract.

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To be real, I think he wanted those numbers from the Vikings just to move him, last night something came out about him not wanting to play with Ponder anymore.

Could he have forced his way out of Minnesota in more ways than one?

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McGruff wrote:
Percy is not second tier.


he's sure as hell not Calvin Johnson/Larry Fitzgerald tier


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Percy is not second tier.


he's sure as hell not Calvin Johnson/Larry Fitzgerald tier


So anyone who's nota future hall of famer is second tier?

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McGruff wrote:
Percy is not second tier.

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It probably goes without saying, but his contract needs to also have some incentives/PT based numbers in it. We gotta cover ourselves if he can't make it through a full season +deep playoff/super bowl runs.

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To be real, I think he wanted those numbers from the Vikings just to move him, last night something came out about him not wanting to play with Ponder anymore.

Could he have forced his way out of Minnesota in more ways than one?


Those rumors started floating around after the Seattle game last year. Supposedly that was part of the blow up on the sidelines (also the team not leaning on Peterson in the second half). I am not worried about the attitude, PC/JS have shown they will not allow someone to corrupt their chemistry, so far.

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Percy is not second tier.

Mcgruff I find it rather funny you were so dead set against Tavon Austin yet you seem to think Percy Harvin is all world. I realize he is a little bigger and has shown it in the NFL but they are basically the same type of player and would be used in a lot of the same ways.


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McGruff wrote:
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Percy is not second tier.


he's sure as hell not Calvin Johnson/Larry Fitzgerald tier


So anyone who's nota future hall of famer is second tier?


Pretty much. By very definition, if they're future hall of famers, quite clearly they're a level above everyone else.

Even so, I'd argue Harvin doesn't even make the 2nd tier, those guys are going to the Hall of Fame, the league is littered with players who make the pro bowl regularly (the aforementioned Vincent Jackson and Brandon Marshall have been to 7 between them). AJ Green has been twice already.
Percy Harvin has made it once. As a kick returner. He has never had a 1000 yard season.


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To be real, I think he wanted those numbers from the Vikings just to move him, last night something came out about him not wanting to play with Ponder anymore.

Could he have forced his way out of Minnesota in more ways than one?


Those rumors started floating around after the Seattle game last year. Supposedly that was part of the blow up on the sidelines (also the team not leaning on Peterson in the second half). I am not worried about the attitude, PC/JS have shown they will not allow someone to corrupt their chemistry, so far.


Well its a good thing we got the best QB in the game huh? :)

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Percy is not second tier.

Mcgruff I find it rather funny you were so dead set against Tavon Austin yet you seem to think Percy Harvin is all world. I realize he is a little bigger and has shown it in the NFL but they are basically the same type of player and would be used in a lot of the same ways.


Austin is not near the player Harvin is. Not even close. Some type, sure. So is Tate.

And frankly, if the Seahawks get Austin somehow, I'll think that is a gat move too.

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