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WalterFootall.com spoke with some scouts, including one from a receiver-needy team picking in the back half of the top 32.

...Hunter hasn't received a lot of first-round buzz, but one team in the mid 20s said it would be ecstatic if he was on the board for its pick.


http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php

There's no team in the middle of the 20s more than the Seahawks. Daniel Jeremiah has Hunter to the Hawks in his latest mock, stating "his stock appears to be on the rise" to reinforce the story above despite drops concerns.


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Forgive me for taking this with a pinch of salt. Having said that he could go in that range and Green Bay makes a lot of sense if they lose Jennings (Driver already retired, Finley could be cut).


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Forgive me for taking this with a pinch of salt. Having said that he could go in that range and Green Bay makes a lot of sense if they lose Jennings (Driver already retired, Finley could be cut).


So does Seattle.

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Ugh... Isn't this dude always hurt?!


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Ugh... Isn't this dude always hurt?!


One injury in 2011 that took out most of his season. In 2010 and 2012 he played 12 and 13 games.

So no . . . One injury in three years.

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Me Likey. Hunter, Hopkins, Patterson or Austin would be awesome.

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I really like Hunter but I'm concerned about that knee injury, not only if it has fully healed but if the injury is affecting his play or if he'll be the same player he was before the injury. Prior to the injury he was perhaps the top rated WR slated to go in this draft but he wasn't as explosive last season. Great size and might be worth that pick if your scout team and medical staff think he could return to his freshman form.

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I really like Hunter but I'm concerned about that knee injury, not only if it has fully healed but if the injury is affecting his play or if he'll be the same player he was before the injury. Prior to the injury he was perhaps the top rated WR slated to go in this draft but he wasn't as explosive last season. Great size and might be worth that pick if your scout team and medical staff think he could return to his sophomore form.


I don't know, less than a year later he was practicing and playing and catching 70+ balls for a 1000+ yards and 9 TD's . . . sure, the knee has to clear, but all indications point to a young man doing what young men are really good at doing . . . healing fully.

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Also, Vikings might be the team for him, they need some WR even if Ponder is going to remain the starter.

Meh, the numbers could be everything or they could mean nothing. It seems a lot of people were unsatisfied with his junior season, not with the production, but how amazing his freshman season was in comparison to his junior season (Albeit coming of injury). True, he came back from the injury and played and I would take into account UT has been a bit of a roller coaster the last three seasons. I wouldn't be upset with the pick as others might be.

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Prototypical Pete Carroll wide receiver.


I wouldn't go that far. Pete likes them tall and fast, but I think he also likes size and a competitive streak. Hunter is sub-200lbs and doesn't play like it's on him.

Sidney Rice, Golden Tate and Doug Baldwin are all much more competitive and sparky than Hunter is on tape. I won't say he's soft. Precious maybe. He also looks fragile and he's going to have to add weight to cope with the physical demands at the next level. There's also a lot of frustrating tape out there. The Alabama game was cringe inducing.

Speed, height and reach puts him on the radar, but I'll be very surprised if they see this guy is good enough to avoid drafting for the DL in round one. I think quite a few targets would have to leave the board for that to happen. And I think they'd sooner go after Ertz.


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 Post subject: Re: Justin Hunter to "mid 20s" team rumor
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Um, his freshman season he had 16 catches. Sure, 7 of those went for TD's . . . but he was deep depth with great promise. Promise that was derailed by injury early in his sophomore season when he was averaging 6 catches and a 100 yards through 3 games . . .

His junior season is really his only productive season due to the injury . . . but in a diversified offense to put up those kind of numbers a year removed from ACL surgery . . . pretty remarkable if you ask me.

But obviously, you can tell Hunter has become my guy, in the same way Austin and Hopkins have been adopted by others.

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Is he the type that can add some muscle and weight and still maintain his speed? Seems reasonable to think the Hawks would be interested


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Is he the type that can add some muscle and weight and still maintain his speed? Seems reasonable to think the Hawks would be interested


It's hard to tell, but to me he looks naturally skinny and might struggle to add weight and keep it on. He was 185lbs during recruitment and only in the 190's now.


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 Post subject: Re: Justin Hunter to "mid 20s" team rumor
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Honestly? He looks like Sydney Rice to me. Rice was 200 lbs at his combine, 4 pounds more than Hunter. Hunter has a similar wirey, tightly wound frame. He'll always be lanky.

He's not Alex Bannister or Todd Pinkston skinny, but he's also never going to be Terrell Owens or David Boston either.

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I really like Hunter and hope we can grab him, but I was hoping that would be in the 2nd round. I'm not sure his value is at a 1st round pick. That's just my opinion though. This draft is so deep at WR there is no reason to reach for a guy at all. Tennessee had a ton of Talent at WR the last couple of years and I like all of them lol!

1st rd. Patterson - best playmaker in the draft on the offensive side of the ball
2nd rd. Hunter - I agree with others, similar to Sidney Rice. Good athleticism and size. Lack of Physicality though makes him a 2nd rounder for me.
3rd/4th rd. Da'Rick Rogers - Another guy that was from that Tennessee WR corp. Got kicked off the team for Marijuana but has since seemed to mature. Very Physical and strong. Great knack for making contested catches. Reminds me a lot of Anquan Boldin


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Prototypical Pete Carroll wide receiver.


I wouldn't go that far. Pete likes them tall and fast, but I think he also likes size and a competitive streak.


I agree. Hunter seems to have a lackadaisical playing demeanor, similar to former Jaguars WR Matt Jones. I would rather us draft his former teammate Da'Rick Rogers, even though I have concerns about him as well.


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I'm fairly "meh" on Hunter myself, although I could see the Seahawks liking him. I can't see Seattle passing on a premium pass rusher for a WR very easily though. WR isn't a need so much as it is a luxury pick.

FWIW, the Packers, Vikings, and Texans have all had WRs mocked to them in round 1 and pick in the mid 20s. The Colts have not, but adding another WR could make sense as Reggie Wayne turns 35 during the 2013 season.


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The bottom line is that pass rush is a bigger need and DL is where there going ar 25 unless they address it in free agency . I like Hopkins and Hunter though and would be fine with either. I also love Ogletree at 25 if he's there to good a player to pass on. I'd take him over any WR and most of the DL that will be left over at 25. I'll believe they go WR when i see it .


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Forgive me for taking this with a pinch of salt. Having said that he could go in that range and Green Bay makes a lot of sense if they lose Jennings (Driver already retired, Finley could be cut).


So does Seattle.

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Hunter in Rd 2 is a steal. He has one of the highest ceilings of all WR's. Woudl you want Marshall, D.Thomas, Britt, and Colston come to mind when i think about Hunter.

He very well could have taken it easier last year coming of the injury but once he get's in the pros and has the money to eat and can focus on workouts I could see another 5-10 lbs. I drool over his potential and at #25 we could do alot worse. The risk reward ratio on Hunter is very favorable. If Hunter maxes out he will be much better than if Austin maxes out.

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WR isn't a need so much as it is a luxury pick.


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WR isn't a need so much as it is a luxury pick.


Yep.


Emphatically disagree.

You get Wilson a better fit at WR, either a waterbug type, or a jump-ball type, the Seahawks are too much to defend. The speed on defense suddenly becomes lethal with a 7-14 point lead (and the threat of a TD every drive by Seattle). Dungy added toys for Manning and drafted speed, fast and quick on defense to compliment that.

There's no way to know for sure, but my hunch is the offense is their priority. Build the offense to improve the defensive personnel already there. It’s a no-brainer.


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I disagree as well. I think Pete and JS absolutely want a better receiving core but they flat out said that last years group wasn't good(and this years was). I would bet good money they take at least one this year in the first or second round. Especially if they sign Abraham and resign Branch.


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Personally, I think we're already too much to defend. I think Wilson is the type of QB that will elevate his receivers.

And for what it's worth, I think they will draft a WR or TE in the first three rounds. But I think there's little chance they do it in round one. This is a deep WR class and there will be good options even in R3. The options at DE and DT will be considerably weaker by that point.


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I disagree as well. I think Pete and JS absolutely want a better receiving core but they flat out said that last years group wasn't good(and this years was). I would bet good money they take at least one this year in the first or second round. Especially if they sign Abraham and resign Branch.


This is a fair assesment. Abraham, Osi, or Freeney plus resigin Brnach keeps us very flexible in the draft early, add a guy like Seymore or Bryant and I could see WR and TE in the 1st and 2nd, the defense for the rest of the draft filling all the back up spots.

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Hunter in Rd 2 is a steal. He has one of the highest ceilings of all WR's. Woudl you want Marshall, D.Thomas, Britt, and Colston come to mind when i think about Hunter.

He very well could have taken it easier last year coming of the injury but once he get's in the pros and has the money to eat and can focus on workouts I could see another 5-10 lbs. I drool over his potential and at #25 we could do alot worse. The risk reward ratio on Hunter is very favorable. If Hunter maxes out he will be much better than if Austin maxes out.


The only one of those WR's Hunter reminds me of is a little bit of Colston.

Demaryius Thomas and Brandon Marshall are 230 Lbs. and Britt is a little closer at 215 but still 20 Lbs. heavier.

With that said the weight isn't really the main problem. It's style of play. Hunter is no where near as Physical as those guys.

I think Hunters more like these guys: Sidney Rice, Randy Moss, Miles Austin, DHB


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Can we get a tall, skinny, huge upside but with issues(good chance of a bust) WR in the 5th-7th?

Marquess Wilson?


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I'm fairly "meh" on Hunter myself, although I could see the Seahawks liking him. I can't see Seattle passing on a premium pass rusher for a WR very easily though. WR isn't a need so much as it is a luxury pick.

FWIW, the Packers, Vikings, and Texans have all had WRs mocked to them in round 1 and pick in the mid 20s. The Colts have not, but adding another WR could make sense as Reggie Wayne turns 35 during the 2013 season.


THat's the thing. I'm not sure there is a premium pass rusher in the entire draft. THere are no Von MIller, Aldon Smiths, or Bruce Irvin's in this draft.

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If all we did was draft depth at WR this year and went with Baldwin/Rice/Tate as the starting trio again, I'd expect Seattle to post a top 5 offense. I don't consider WR a need. I see it as more of an opportunity.


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THat's the thing. I'm not sure there is a premium pass rusher in the entire draft. THere are no Von MIller, Aldon Smiths, or Bruce Irvin's in this draft.


I think Datone Jones is this year's Fletcher Cox. If he's there, it's a no brainer, IMO. I think Jarvis Jones compares pretty well to Von Miller, but the chances of him being a Seahawk feel slim.


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There's no AJ Green or Julio Jones in this draft either.


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i wouldn't be surpised if this was put out as a smoke screen to direct interest away from whomever 'they' truly want....

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THat's the thing. I'm not sure there is a premium pass rusher in the entire draft. THere are no Von MIller, Aldon Smiths, or Bruce Irvin's in this draft.


I think Datone Jones is this year's Fletcher Cox. If he's there, it's a no brainer, IMO. I think Jarvis Jones compares pretty well to Von Miller, but the chances of him being a Seahawk feel slim.

You are just trying to seduce me now. You know how bad I wanted Fletcher last year.

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There isn't a Julio Jones or AJ Green, but there's a more mature Deseasn Jackson.


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There isn't a Julio Jones or AJ Green, but there's a more mature Deseasn Jackson.


Who will probably be off the board...


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There isn't a Julio Jones or AJ Green, but there's a more mature Deseasn Jackson.


Who will probably be off the board...


Yeah, I know. SUCKS. Our own Bruce Irvin was all over twitter laughing at Austin's draft projection a few months ago. He kept saying how he'll be top 15 by the time its all said and done.

I just revisited the dissapointment I felt when the Hawks passed on Desean for an overrated TE. Not a cool feeling.


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Im pretty high on Hunter. If we got him at #25 that would be awesome.

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There isn't a Julio Jones or AJ Green, but there's a more mature Deseasn Jackson.

I dunno if I'd say that. Cordarrelle Patterson looks like he could be a very similar guy to Julio Jones with a little more polishing. A couple years with a good WR coach is all he needs, he's got the athleticism, size, and speed.


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There isn't a Julio Jones or AJ Green, but there's a more mature Deseasn Jackson.


meh..... http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/i ... an-jackson

Why would you spend a 1st round pick on someone with DeSean's potential. Maybe a second rounder.....

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