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As possible first round selections
Desmond Trufant CB
Manti Te'o LB

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I'd love Trufant, but he won't be available.

I'd hate Te'o, and he will be available.

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Cornerback isn't a need.

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Would love getting Trufant. I wouldn't want Te'o in a Seahawks uniform if he was available in the 7th round, my blood pressure would explode from worry at him having the defensive mic. Why catfish our own defense with an overhyped gullible fool like him when we can get a good will later on and let the runner up for DROY improve where he is?

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Funny people were screaming for a Nickel CB to replace Trufant, here's a guy that is one of the top guys and yet we don't need a CB ?

I agree that you don't waste a high pick on a nickel, but there is a need.

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Drafting "for need" is always a risky proposition anyways.

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Trufant is not a 1st round prospect IMO. Nice player, safe pick, not a star. Seems like 2nd and 3rd round corners often get sucked up into the 1st round though, so I can't criticize a team that takes him in round 1 that much. Unless that team is Seattle, but that won't happen.

I don't trust Te'o as a human, but that's beside the point. On tape, I think he has phenomenal instincts and great lateral quickness but his lack of speed could be a big problem, as the Alabama game might have proved. Very 1 dimensional middle linebacker. He might need to go to a 3-4 since a 4-3 might ask too much of him in the middle.


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Would love getting Trufant. I wouldn't want Te'o in a Seahawks uniform if he was available in the 7th round, my blood pressure would explode from worry at him having the defensive mic. Why catfish our own defense with an overhyped gullible fool like him when we can get a good will later on and let the runner up for DROY improve where he is?


So, you are of the opinion that we will be good will hunting on day 2?


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Funny people were screaming for a Nickel CB to replace Trufant, here's a guy that is one of the top guys and yet we don't need a CB ?

I agree that you don't waste a high pick on a nickel, but there is a need.


I'm the only one who's said we don't need a corner so far and I don't recall screaming for a nickel replacement.

We have a lot of young cornerback talent. I'll roll with Lane or Thurmond in the nickel. And I'd look to draft Sanders Commings at some point because I just like the way he plays. But is nickel corner a first round level need? Of course it isn't.


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Would love getting Trufant. I wouldn't want Te'o in a Seahawks uniform if he was available in the 7th round, my blood pressure would explode from worry at him having the defensive mic. Why catfish our own defense with an overhyped gullible fool like him when we can get a good will later on and let the runner up for DROY improve where he is?


So, you are of the opinion that we will be good will hunting on day 2?


Either that or throwing the dice at Phillip Wheeler or a scheme problem LB off one of the teams converting to a 34.

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I don't want either in round one. Their fit to this team is not near the value they are being considered at.

Teo seems like he'd have the skills lofa had but would bring better size but after all these issues his leadership ability in the NFL will take a big hit.

Trufant has great size and speed, but is now considered a 1st round pick and with Lane and Maxwell showing well, and WT3 back we are not so thin at CB we need to spend a 1st on a CB. DT,DE, WLB, WR, and TE are all higher priorities in my mind.

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Tru seems to be a hot name right now, but I would take poyer over him. And you can get him in the 2-3 round.


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Funny people were screaming for a Nickel CB to replace Trufant, here's a guy that is one of the top guys and yet we don't need a CB ?

I agree that you don't waste a high pick on a nickel, but there is a need.


Why spend a 1st round pick on a nickel, Trufant doesn't have the size to be a starting corner in our scheme.


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I said you don't "WASTE" a first rounder on a nickel.

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Funny people were screaming for a Nickel CB to replace Trufant, here's a guy that is one of the top guys and yet we don't need a CB ?

I agree that you don't waste a high pick on a nickel, but there is a need.


Not to mention we have a 29 year free agent Starting CB next year. We need to think about drafting for the future as well as the present.

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Funny people were screaming for a Nickel CB to replace Trufant, here's a guy that is one of the top guys and yet we don't need a CB ?

I agree that you don't waste a high pick on a nickel, but there is a need.


I'm the only one who's said we don't need a corner so far and I don't recall screaming for a nickel replacement.

We have a lot of young cornerback talent. I'll roll with Lane or Thurmond in the nickel. And I'd look to draft Sanders Commings at some point because I just like the way he plays. But is nickel corner a first round level need? Of course it isn't.

I'm concerned with Nickle simply because, as bad as we all could see how much of a liability Marcus Trufant was, he kept getting the call from the defensive staff each week he was available. That leaves me to think they weren't happy with the 'young talent' we had. Not sure why, because I disagreed with that decision. Of course, now that Bradley is gone and Trufant is a FA, maybe the point is moot.

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Funny people were screaming for a Nickel CB to replace Trufant, here's a guy that is one of the top guys and yet we don't need a CB ?

I agree that you don't waste a high pick on a nickel, but there is a need.


Why spend a 1st round pick on a nickel, Trufant doesn't have the size to be a starting corner in our scheme.


I agree with not spending a first round pick on a pure nickel corner (or any corner for that matter), but I think it's a misconception that any starting corner in the Hawks needs to be 6' 2" or taller. Remember, the first cb drafted under Pete and John was Walter Thurmond who stands 5' 11" and was the unofficial starter heading into the 2011 season before he injured his ankle. They aren't afraid of average size DBs if they can play ball.

Sherman and Browner, in a sense, fell into this teams lap and Pete has wisely adapted since then (much more press coverage), but I don't think Pete and John have completely gone away from the same mentality they had when choosing WT3. Fast, tough, average size DBs can be starters.

With that said, hellz naw to both Trufant or Te'o. We have bigger needs. And can we please stop with the idea to move Wagner to WLB. Please?

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Well I have said that you need a quick guy in the Nickle, Maxwell and Lane don't appear as quick as they are fast, you need a guy that can do that and run support as well. Trufant I think got the call more for his tackleing and run support as well as his experience in reading guys and being able to cheat a little.

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I don't like either of them for us. We are set at MLB and IMO Trufant is a nickle CB. Manti Te'o I think will be a good player for any team looking for a LB. IMO Manit could be like Lofa Tatupu; not fast, not a thumper, but very instinctive and a on the field leader. I have not scouted Trufant, and as a Husky fan I have seen him abused too many times to even consider drafting him in the first three rounds.


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We don't need a CB in this draft (at least not in the 1st round). We have young talent already. When Browner was suspended we didn't miss a beat. I fully expect our Nickle to be much better this year. I think Marcus Trufant may have been starting for other reasons than just talent.


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