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kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:57 am
  • 1st round: Jarvis Jones, DE, Georgia
    2nd round: John Simon, DT/DE, Ohio State
    3rd round: Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M
    4th round: Armonty Bryant, DE, East Central University Athletics
    5th round: Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati
    5th round: Zaviar Gooden, LB, Missouri
    6th round: Matt Scott, QB, Arizona
    7th round: Micah Hyde, CB, Iowa
    7th round: Courtney Gardner, WR
    7th round: Abry Jones, DT, Georgia

    This is based loosely on the rankings provided by Tony Pauline. Some other considerations are added (Armonty Bryant isn't ranked but I don't think he'll last into the late rounds, Jarvis Jones will probably fall like DaQuan Bowers- as reported by Pauline himself)

    To quote Quentin Tarantino as channeled through Brad Pitt in the final moment of Inglorious Basterds: "I think this just might be my masterpiece!"

    1st round: Jarvis Jones, DE, Georgia

    Jarvis Jones probably won't be a Seahawk. But I think he should be. I've watched a LOT of Georgia tape this year, as seemingly their entire defense is in this draft. In a group of NFL caliber players, Jones stands head and shoulders about the rest. Quick, instinctive, disruptive. If Georgia had a sack on a given play, it seemed like it was always #29 coming out of the pile celebrating. Despite being just 241 pounds, Jones plays larger than his size and makes for more of a natural LEO than Bruce Irvin. Jones has the frame to add weight, but I'm not even sure if he'd have to. His game reminds me a lot of Von Miller, who is himself 6'3" 245 pounds.

    The reason Jones isn't a top pick like Miller is because of a narrowing of the spine in his neck, which sounds a lot like the same injury that Peyton Manning had. If not the same injury, then certainly the same situation- one bad hit and it could be over. And yet at least half the NFL was climbing over each other for a chance to stake their careers on Peyton Manning's neck, including a certain duo I seem to remember flying in to Denver by private jet.

    My point is this, even if you only get Peyton Manning for 4 or 5 years, he's worth it. It doesn't take a genius to understand that. Manning didn't cost a draft pick, but I'd argue that at $20 million a year he was far more expensive than a 25th overall pick would be. You might not get 10 years out of Jones, but you have a pretty good chance to get his 4 rookie contract years, where he'll give you pro-bowl production on a 4 year, $7.7 million type contract. That's less than $2 million in salary per year.

    It's true that there is a chance that Jones could be forced to retire immediately and the pick could be a disaster, but there is a chance that any first round pick could be a disaster. Especially if that pick is being used on someone like Ezekiel Ansah or Datone Jones, who given their lack of development are far more likely to fail than succeed.

    As far as the morality argument, Jones is going to be playing the NFL whether we think it's right or not. It's not like he's going to get passed over 255 times. And besides, who are we to deny him a chance to follow his NFL dream, or making millions to support his loved ones? People have risked their health or very lives for far less. If he can play, let him.

    Jarvis Jones, when viewed as a rental, would be a fantastic acquisition that could help push Seattle's pass rush to the next level. It wouldn't set Seattle up ultra long term, but no other pass rusher in the entire draft comes close to what Jones can give you, and even in a scenario where his contribution is short lived, he could give us a phenomenal return on investment.

    2nd round: John Simon, DT/DE, Ohio State

    Like Russell Wilson last year, I don't believe size will matter for John Simon in the NFL. He was battled tested in a strong conference that is particularly known for producing offensive lineman. Simon didn't just "get by" at that level, he dominated. I think he could be a little bit like a poor man's Justin Smith for us when playing the Jason Jones role. Bruce Irvin, like Aldon Smith, is outstanding on stunts, and so is Simon. I could see Simon and Irvin making a similarly formidable duo. And like Wilson, Simon leaves behind a great head coach that can't stop gushing about him. Simon will bring the kind of leadership and field tilting to our defense that Wilson does for our offense.

    3rd round: Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M

    Swope is a fierce competitor who even runs his forty with embarrassing intensity. Swope shocked many with a incredible combine performance. It seems so far that at least some evaluators feel his combine was a fluke, that he's still the "average" athlete he was on film. I think that's a load. Even on film you could see Swope running past, around, and even over defenders. He has quick feet and at times displays the kind of athletic improvisation we're used to seeing from Golden Tate.

    Swope knows how to finds spots in a zone defense and is an excellent slot WR, but he has the size, speed, and YAC ability to play very well outside. When asked who he'd compare himself to, Swope said he was flattered by the Welker comparisons but felt that Jordy Nelson was a closer match to his game. Swope played with improvising QBs Tannehill and Manziel, and even when he wasn't considered the teams best WR, he was always the guy who got targets in the big games. A QB's pet much like Engram was for Hasselbeck, Swope knows how to work his way open when his quarterback is improvising and buying time.

    In recent days Swope has made the rounds in the media and has shown a fiery, almost cocky personality which matches the burning passion he shows for the game. No other WR in the draft even approaches his level of intensity and competitiveness. If there was a guy I could guarantee you was on JS/PC's draft board at WR- this guy is it.

    By the time I get to mock versions 6.0 and beyond, I'll probably just fill this space with typographer latin because I'll have talked about him so much.

    4th round: Armonty Bryant, DE, East Central University Athletics

    Even though Seattle has already taken two potential end rushers, I would not pass on Bryant. I think you have to find a place on your team for a guy with top 10 physical talent like Bryant.

    5th round: Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati

    In a crowed TE class, a quality option like Kelce could slip to the very early 5th (Seattle owns the 3rd pick in the 5th round). Kelce is a well rounded TE that has drawn some comparisons to Zach Miller. There was something about his tape that kept me from loving him- probably his lack of explosiveness or playmaking ability, but he's a good blocker and a natural TE. Would be a really nice option as a 3rd TE. I think Seattle will probably grab some freak like Chris Gragg instead, although it's worth noting that they dumped a seemingly able H-back TE in Kellen Winslow for a giant TE in Evan Moore.

    5th round: Zaviar Gooden, LB, Missouri

    Gooden is not on Pauline's top 160, although it probably will be when he updates post-combine. I think Gooden is one of the better 4-3 weakside linebackers in this draft. He's crazy fast on the field, and is a headstrong downhill playmaker similar to a young Leroy Hill, but with much better wheels. Like a rookie Hill, I see a lot of potential for Gooden as a blitzer as he is quite explosive. He'd make a nice weapon for Quinn if he backs up his words about being more aggressive in 2013.

    Gooden sometimes lets tackles get by him and doesn't look as big on tape as his 234 pound weigh in suggest, but he's a really nice player that could give Seattle the perfect piece to complete their linebacker trio.

    6th round: Matt Scott, QB, Arizona

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    7th round: Micah Hyde, CB, Iowa

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    7th round: Courtney Gardner, WR, Sierra College

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    7th round: Abry Jones, DT, Georgia

    After Cornelius Washington lit up the combine on Monday, I rushed to youtube to see if any compilations were available. There weren't. Thankfully, Washington played his football for Georgia which must have close to 10 players from that defense in this draft. As I watched compilations of other players while squinting for #83, I quickly found myself annoyed when his teammate wearing the #93 was making more plays than Washington was. Every time a play was made, I had to make sure it wasn't #93, and often times it was.

    When a player that you didn't expect catches your attention, it can mean something. Ryan Swope forced me to notice him over and over again in 2011 and 2012 when I was breaking down Ryan Tannehill and Johnny Manziel. When breaking down Ryan Mallett it was consistently his halfback, Knile Davis, that kept stealing the show with Terrell Davis like dominance.

    As it turns out, Georgia's #93 is a 308 pound, 6'3" 3-tech DT by the name of Abry Jones. A once highly touted recruit, Jones had a quiet career before registering 4 sacks and 7 tackles for loss in 2011. He was named the team's most improved player that year, and as a junior, he had the option to leave for the draft. Despite receiving a 3rd round draft grade from the advisory committee, Jones returned to school, only to be injured halfway though his senior season without registering a sack. Jones is now considered likely to be a 7th round pick, or go undrafted completely.

    I'm not saying that Abry Jones is a hidden gem. He's a player I like, and I think that even if he's not a future 3-tech star, he could probably be another Alan Branch.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:02 am
  • Not bad like the picks...although

    I'd think long and hard about Jarvis Jones if I were PC/JS. There's no guarantees about Clemons next year either. Having to worry about one players return from an ACL and when to start him and how to take it easy, then having your #1 pick in the same position and worrying that one hit could potentially end his career.

    I could see it, if we could count on a fully healthy Clemons.

    Just my opinion, glad I don't have to make the choices.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:27 am
  • Sounds like a dream draft to me...If those guys fell to us, I'd be happy with pretty much all of those picks. We'd be building a dangerous team. I would take Kelce in the 4th before Bryant though---that kid is a knucklehead and I don't like him as a pick..if you sell weed at practice a few times, you'd be off my radar if I were a GM. I'd move up all the picks and get the players you listed below him and take a flyer on a promising OT in the last round.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:29 am
  • :idea: Maybe i need to see more video of John Simon but he does nothing for me. I would rather have Margus Hunt or Brandon Williams over him the rest of the draft is pretty good. I actually like Marcus Wheaton over Swope and wouldn't mind us drafting D.J. Fluker to go a RG or RT.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:36 am
  • Kip, I think something to remember when linking Pete to tight ends and receivers is their blocking.

    How does Swope look when he blocks?
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:55 am
  • I don't see the angle of putting Simon as a DT/DE. He's a pure edge rusher for me. The NFL is trying to force him into a linebacker position, but his best fit is OLB for Pittsburgh as an edge rusher.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:09 am
  • theENGLISHseahawk wrote:I don't see the angle of putting Simon as a DT/DE. He's a pure edge rusher for me. The NFL is trying to force him into a linebacker position, but his best fit is OLB for Pittsburgh as an edge rusher.

    Funny, I see a Karl Klug copy just waiting to be plugged in on third downs. Though I do admit he looks like an ideal 3-4 LB, if that linebacker never had to cover a tight end.

    And there in lies the rub with Simon. At the senior bowl he looked AWFUL in space and coverage. In the NFL, all a team has to do is motion a tight end, or even a 2nd tight end to his side and make him play in space.

    When I watch the guy, his best moments in college are in the middle, handfighting with guards. He plays so low and with so much leverage that most guards can't keep the feet together trying to block him. A non football comparison would be a MMA grappler. The closer he gets to you, the worse it is for you. Low man wins, right?

    Also, lets just talk for a moment about his intangibles. He is going to play all out, even if his role is special teams. He is a weight room freak, and what locker room can't use that? I honestly like him as much for that stuff as his abilities. He gives off a Heath Farwell vibe.

    Unique skills? Check.
    Good teammate? Check.
    Bad ass? Check.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:15 am
  • Wow!

    Any draft that nets us THREE legitimate potential pass rushers AND Swopes would have me believing in miracles. More than I already do.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:25 am
  • Scottemojo wrote:
    Also, lets just talk for a moment about his intangibles. He is going to play all out, even if his role is special teams. He is a weight room freak, and what locker room can't use that? I honestly like him as much for that stuff as his abilities. He gives off a Heath Farwell vibe.

    Unique skills? Check.
    Good teammate? Check.
    Bad ass? Check.


    Sounds like the perfect roommate and role-model for John Moffit. Draft him for that resin alone.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:44 am
  • That draft looks great. I would be super happy.

    What if you switched out the 1st and 2nd picks with:

    1st-Kawann Short or Datone Jones or Simon
    2nd-Jamie Collins or Trevardo Williams

    Would switching the 1st and 4th pick with these guys make any sense:

    1st-Short
    4th-Lemonier

    Would Drafting a guy like Short and Simon in the same draft be too similar of players and not make sense? Maybe if they like Simon for the role Kearly is explaining and the other DT's they like are gone they trade out of the first round, move to the early/mid 2nd, draft Simon and add a 3rd round pick or something next season?

    God I wish we could figure out a way to get Richardson. Dude sounds like a super stud 3T or 5T.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:25 am
  • Kip, do you sleep?

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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:37 am
  • I don't know much about the individual players, but I could easily get on board with a draft that grabbed 3 D-linemen in the first 4 rounds.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:41 am
  • Scottemojo wrote:Kip, I think something to remember when linking Pete to tight ends and receivers is their blocking.

    How does Swope look when he blocks?


    Watch Swope come in at the end with a HUGE block. The more I see of this guy, the more I want him.

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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:45 am
  • Hey Kip. Love all your posts and insights. One piece of feedback for ya...the green you use for your titles is impossible to read on an iPhone. Not sure if you've heard that or not, but thought you might like to know.

    Thanks for all your hard work and input!
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:47 am
  • thehands816 wrote:Hey Kip. Love all your posts and insights. One piece of feedback for ya...the green you use for your titles is impossible to read on an iPhone. Not sure if you've heard that or not, but thought you might like to know.

    Thanks for all your hard work and input!


    Don't read it on an iPhone...

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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:48 am
  • Scottemojo wrote:Kip, I think something to remember when linking Pete to tight ends and receivers is their blocking.

    How does Swope look when he blocks?

    Definitely not Kearly, but I have a couple friends who are A&M fans. They said that blocking is one of the more underrated aspects of Swopes game. One said there could be a highlight reel of the big blocks he threw last year.

    Take that with a grain of salt, they're big Aggie homers.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:49 am
  • Kearly: I. LOVE. THIS. DRAFT.

    Bravo sir, that would be an amazing weekend for the Hawks.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:32 am
  • kearly wrote:The reason Jones isn't a top pick like Miller is because of a narrowing of the spine in his neck, which sounds a lot like the same injury that Peyton Manning had. If not the same injury, then certainly the same situation- one bad hit and it could be over.

    As far as the morality argument, Jones is going to be playing the NFL whether we think it's right or not. It's not like he's going to get passed over 255 times. And besides, who are we to deny him a chance to follow his NFL dream, or making millions to support his loved ones? If he can play, let him.


    Completely different injuries between Peyton and Jarvis but certainly very similar situations. But as with any football player, or actually any situation involving heavy, fast moving objects, all it takes is one bad hit.

    IMHO, there is no morality argument, people end up paralyzed all of the time from accidents and physical deformities. It is next to impossible to predict when and where a paralyzing incident might occur. I barely missed being in a wheelchair and if it hadn't been for lower back pain which caused me to get an MRI, I never would have known until I was unable to walk. I was lucky.

    To deny one's dreams because of the possibility of injury is foolhardy. A local CCHA hockey player will spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair because of a hit on the ice. He said he has no regrets.

    My argument is, if Jarvis Jones falls to you, you draft him. He just played 2 years in the SEC with no significant injuries and that means a lot. The potential far outweighs the risks. Show the kid that you believe in him because FWIW, I certainly do.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:35 am
  • Swope dropping to 3rd and Gooden dropping to 5th...me likey
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:45 am
  • Scottemojo wrote:
    theENGLISHseahawk wrote:I don't see the angle of putting Simon as a DT/DE. He's a pure edge rusher for me. The NFL is trying to force him into a linebacker position, but his best fit is OLB for Pittsburgh as an edge rusher.

    Funny, I see a Karl Klug copy just waiting to be plugged in on third downs. Though I do admit he looks like an ideal 3-4 LB, if that linebacker never had to cover a tight end.

    And there in lies the rub with Simon. At the senior bowl he looked AWFUL in space and coverage. In the NFL, all a team has to do is motion a tight end, or even a 2nd tight end to his side and make him play in space.

    When I watch the guy, his best moments in college are in the middle, handfighting with guards. He plays so low and with so much leverage that most guards can't keep the feet together trying to block him. A non football comparison would be a MMA grappler. The closer he gets to you, the worse it is for you. Low man wins, right?

    Also, lets just talk for a moment about his intangibles. He is going to play all out, even if his role is special teams. He is a weight room freak, and what locker room can't use that? I honestly like him as much for that stuff as his abilities. He gives off a Heath Farwell vibe.

    Unique skills? Check.
    Good teammate? Check.
    Bad ass? Check.


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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:23 am
  • Does anybody have a source for a video of the WR drills from the Combine?

    I searched on youtube but could not find it.

    Specifically, I'm looking for the short video where Swope blew me away with his 90 degree cut to the sideline.

    I found it amazing how low his hips got in that cut and how his speed hardly changed at all coming out of that cut.

    This kid knows how to get open, he's sure-handed, he knows how to take a hit and hold onto the ball at the point of the catch, he's fast, he's quick, the kid obviously loves the game, he's an inspirational cheerleader and I'm guessing a great influence in the locker room.

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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:40 am
  • Yeah, I'd probably pee myself a little if that was our draft.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:48 am
  • Swope is an excellent blocker. Excellent.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:22 pm
  • This would just be a dream for sure. I love Jarvis Jones. I hope we get him. I hope we get at least 5 years out of him. I also like Swope. He stood out to me in the couple of TAM games I watched. It was funny, because I thought Manziel is getting all the attention, but it just seems like Swope is the guy that's always at the other end in crucial situations. I like Swope even if he had ran a 4.5 or 4.55. He just knows his way around a football field.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:51 pm
  • thehands816 wrote:Watch Swope come in at the end with a HUGE block. The more I see of this guy, the more I want him.



    Yup. It's plays like that which were the reason for my Largent comp. (JSeahawks called it first). Every now and then Swope has got a Harden hit in him.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:10 pm
  • Tate vs. Lee right there. Would be very happy if we drafted Swopes.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:54 pm
  • Kearly, I watched a few of Swope's highlights, and got to say his speed really does show up on film. I also saw he was mostly used in the slot and was thrown a tons of screen passes. I saw a lot of Golden Tate in him but he is a bit faster.

    I'd really like you to look in Aaron Dobson, he screams PC & JS, He has near 1st round size and athletisism, his best football is defenatly ahead of him, he is not getting any hype yet is as talentent or more than guys like Hunter, Wheaton, Patton, or Rodgers. At 6'3 210lbs and i'd project a 4.5 40time as he rana 4.48 in High School but is about 25lbs heavier now. His numbers don't stand out but he had a pretty good jr year 49 rec 668yds and 12 TD's. His catches and yards increased every year and his TD did as well expect his Sr year only 3 TD but he was injured some last year.

    His catch at the 4:38 mark is one of the best i've ever seen. He catches just about everything with his hands and I see Dobson make moves similar to Cordell Patterson. So my question is where do you think he will be drafted, and would you agree that he is Seahawks type target. I think he should go in the 3rd but I can image so bigger name still being on the board but us choosing to draft Dobson. I feel like comparing him to Hakeen Nicks but not ready to make that bold of a statement.

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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:18 pm
  • The catch you mentioned, reminded me of the catch BMW had against the Cardinals 3 seasons ago, kinda.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:29 pm
  • This might be my all time favorite. I was instantly a fan of Nicks after I saw this one.

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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:51 pm
  • This would be a sick draft. Dream indeed. I can't put in the time to do proper study, but I've been reading some things. Couple of questions:


    Are there seriously evaluators out there that ignore an eletronically timed 40, then look at Swope's film and actually think he's an average athlete ? I only saw the youtube highights but seriously, he got behind a LOT of DB's, which isn't always super impressive in college. Then looking again, he's behind safeties and double teams. He NEVER got caught from behind when he was in full stride, even when guys had an angle on him he outran them. After such a public and hyped 40 time, does this guy really slip to the 3rd round ? And if so, our pick in the 3rd ? That would be amazing. I would be so afraid of missing on this guy, I'd grab him in the 2nd.

    Kelce....I've read enough about him to see his draft stock rising. One of the things I read said he was getting more attention and his stock was rising. Still seems like a damn good pick; would be a killer in a 2 TE set with Miller....run would be brutal, and going into routes would kill most LBers with both those guys out.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:53 pm
  • Wenhawk wrote:Kearly, I watched a few of Swope's highlights, and got to say his speed really does show up on film. I also saw he was mostly used in the slot and was thrown a tons of screen passes. I saw a lot of Golden Tate in him but he is a bit faster.

    I'd really like you to look in Aaron Dobson, he screams PC & JS, He has near 1st round size and athletisism, his best football is defenatly ahead of him, he is not getting any hype yet is as talentent or more than guys like Hunter, Wheaton, Patton, or Rodgers. At 6'3 210lbs and i'd project a 4.5 40time as he rana 4.48 in High School but is about 25lbs heavier now. His numbers don't stand out but he had a pretty good jr year 49 rec 668yds and 12 TD's. His catches and yards increased every year and his TD did as well expect his Sr year only 3 TD but he was injured some last year.

    His catch at the 4:38 mark is one of the best i've ever seen. He catches just about everything with his hands and I see Dobson make moves similar to Cordell Patterson. So my question is where do you think he will be drafted, and would you agree that he is Seahawks type target. I think he should go in the 3rd but I can image so bigger name still being on the board but us choosing to draft Dobson. I feel like comparing him to Hakeen Nicks but not ready to make that bold of a statement.



    You're absolutely 100% right about that catch at the 4:20 Mark or so. I've watched a lot of football over the past 30 years and I can honestly say I've never ever seen a play like that made. And I was impressed enough with his 1 handed grab at the 3:08 mark. I had to re-watch that over twice just to see how he caught that. Immaculate reception? Pfft!

    Edit to add: That catch was so good I just had to re-watch that over again. I don't know enough about him to make much of an evaluation on him ... but the highlights there are certainly impressive.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:00 pm
  • Tons of natural talent, has the size we need, and his best football is likely ahead of him. He is a sleeper WR nobody talks about and to me that makes it that much more likely he is a guy on our radar.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:12 pm
  • Holy crap, what a catch.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:24 pm
  • Throwdown wrote:The catch you mentioned, reminded me of the catch BMW had against the Cardinals 3 seasons ago, kinda.


    I was at that game. It was awesome. BWM had like 11 catches for over 100 or something like that.
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Re: kearly's dream draft 4.0
Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:27 am
  • Wenhawk wrote:I'd really like you to look in Aaron Dobson, he screams PC & JS, He has near 1st round size and athletisism, his best football is defenatly ahead of him, he is not getting any hype yet is as talentent or more than guys like Hunter, Wheaton, Patton, or Rodgers. At 6'3 210lbs and i'd project a 4.5 40time as he rana 4.48 in High School but is about 25lbs heavier now. His numbers don't stand out but he had a pretty good jr year 49 rec 668yds and 12 TD's. His catches and yards increased every year and his TD did as well expect his Sr year only 3 TD but he was injured some last year.


    Will do. Can't promise how whether I'll like him or not, but we'll see.
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