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 Post subject: I want Hopkins!
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I have been doing a lot of reading up on this young man and the more I read the more I want him at 25. Heck I would love the FO to move up and get him. I know we need some d-line help, but there are better options that could help us in FA than there is in this years draft. If we could get either Starks or Melton out of FA and a few other under the radar DEs/Dts I would soooooo want us to take Hopkins in the first. Who's with me?

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Me... As long as we get a FA d tackle and possibly d end.


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 Post subject: Re: I want Hopkins!
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I have been doing a lot of reading up on this young man and the more I read the more I want him at 25. Heck I would love the FO to move up and get him. I know we need some d-line help, but there are better options that could help us in FA than there is in this years draft. If we could get either Starks or Melton out of FA and a few other under the radar DEs/Dts I would soooooo want us to take Hopkins in the first. Who's with me?


If we get a penetrating DT in free agency, and some rotational ends, yeah, I'd be game for Hopkins, depending on who else is there.

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 Post subject: Re: I want Hopkins!
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Me too. He's my number 1 choice in the first round. I just dont see any Dlinemen who will be worth the pick at that point.

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 Post subject: Re: I want Hopkins!
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One of these years, we need to spend a #1 draft pick on an offensive skill player (RB/WR/TE). This franchise hasn't drafted one in the first-round since Jerramy Stevens in 2002.

I'd love Hopkins, even at #25.

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 Post subject: Re: I want Hopkins!
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One of these years, we need to spend a #1 draft pick on an offensive skill player (RB/WR/TE). This franchise hasn't drafted one in the first-round since Jerramy Stevens in 2002.

I'd love Hopkins, even at #25.


I agree. Alot on here are acting as if the defense sucked. The fact is EVEN with a suspect pass rush were ranked #1 in points allowed. So I don't understand the hysteria that we MUST draft a defensive player with our #1 pick. We've spend the majority of our picks on defense over the last 3 years, I'd like to see them address the WR/TE in the draft this year. We've drafted a total of 3 (2-WR- Tate, Durham, 1-TE- McCoy) players at these spots, IMO that's not enough. We need more depth and playmaking ability from that end.

We've drafted on average just 3- 1/3 offensive players in each of the last 3 drafts.
Whereas the Defense has yeilded on average 6 players drafted each year.

So far Offensive players= 10, Defensive Players= 18
They breakdown as follows:
Offense- 10
QB-1- RW
RB-1- Turbin
TE-2 McCoy & the Konz
WR- 2 Tate, Durham
OL- 4- Okung, Carp, Moffitt, Scruggs

Defense- (18 total)
DT- 3 (Levingston, Scruggs, Howard)
DE- 3 (Davis, Wilson (never made the team), Irvin)
OLB- 3 (KJ, Smith, Toomer)
MLB- 1 (Wagner)
CB- 4 (Thurmond, Sherman, Maxwell, Lane)
S- 4 (Thomas, Chancellor, Legree (Never made the team) Guy)


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 Post subject: Re: I want Hopkins!
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FlyingGreg wrote:
One of these years, we need to spend a #1 draft pick on an offensive skill player (RB/WR/TE). This franchise hasn't drafted one in the first-round since Jerramy Stevens in 2002.

I'd love Hopkins, even at #25.


I agree. Alot on here are acting as if the defense sucked. The fact is EVEN with a suspect pass rush were ranked #1 in points allowed. So I don't understand the hysteria that we MUST draft a defensive player with our #1 pick. We've spend the majority of our picks on defense over the last 3 years, I'd like to see them address the WR/TE in the draft this year. We've drafted a total of 3 (2-WR- Tate, Durham, 1-TE- McCoy) players at these spots, IMO that's not enough. We need more depth and playmaking ability from that end.

We've drafted on average just 3- 1/3 offensive players in each of the last 3 drafts.
Whereas the Defense has yeilded on average 6 players drafted each year.

So far Offensive players= 10, Defensive Players= 18
They breakdown as follows:
Offense- 10
QB-1- RW
RB-1- Turbin
TE-2 McCoy & the Konz
WR- 2 Tate, Durham
OL- 4- Okung, Carp, Moffitt, Scruggs

Defense- (18 total)
DT- 3 (Levingston, Scruggs, Howard)
DE- 3 (Davis, Wilson (never made the team), Irvin)
OLB- 3 (KJ, Smith, Toomer)
MLB- 1 (Wagner)
CB- 4 (Thurmond, Sherman, Maxwell, Lane)
S- 4 (Thomas, Chancellor, Legree (Never made the team) Guy)


Agreed. I'd rather us find the immediate help for defense in free agency, as it's unlikely we can draft an impact player in the draft that won't need some development. We are on the cusp - we need that established guy and I think it's in free agency where we find that.

I'd love to find a stud WR/TE early on. They may need some time to develop, but IMO we can better mask that progression with our offense (already on the edge of being exceptional as currently stocked) than we can with the defense.

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 Post subject: Re: I want Hopkins!
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I'm just not seeing as the kind of DT quality in the first-round that I am for WR in Hopkins. It's not as if WR isn't a major need worthy of first-round consideration.

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 Post subject: Re: I want Hopkins!
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I think this really depends on what your outlook is on Chris Clemons. I am not optimistic. I would take advantage of a potentially strong FA class at DL and release Clemons down the road if necessary. But I just don't think Seattle would do that. I hope I am wrong, but if they handle this the way they've handled things in recent offseasons, they will walk into that draft still having big needs at DL and their hand could be forced.

And while I appreciate the logic that Seattle had the #1 defense last year, that was with a healthy, productive Chris Clemons. The defense hardly looked elite once they faced a real QB without him.

But yes, Hopkins is a future star. I am honestly amazed that he's being considered a 2nd round prospect. But then again, guys like Torrey Smith, Roddy White, and even Sidney Rice went in the same kind of draft range that Hopkins is projected at, so I shouldn't be surprised.


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 Post subject: Re: I want Hopkins!
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But then again, guys like Torrey Smith, Roddy White, and even Sidney Rice went in the same kind of draft range that Hopkins is projected at, so I shouldn't be surprised.


I remember when we passed on Roddy White for Chris Spencer and slamming my fist on the living room table.

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 Post subject: Re: I want Hopkins!
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Here's a slick video of Hopkins catch 33 consecutive passes from a jugs machine from what looks to be ~15 feet away... alternating Right and Left hands!!

I want this kid!!

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 Post subject: Re: I want Hopkins!
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It seems to me we all want Hopkins. I was hoping he'd slip , but that bowl game did not help that hope at all. I don't see many better options that are real posibilities at our pick. I still have a nagging feeling we trade down though, just a feeling.

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 Post subject: Re: I want Hopkins!
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As an NC State fan, there are players you just don't want to face that you know will kill your team when they are on the field with their playmaking ability. There were two such players in the ACC this year that stood out to me--Giovanni Bernard (UNC Running Back) and Deandre Hopkins. These guys are just playmakers. Both will be great in the NFL, I have little doubt. Whomever steals Bernard in the draft will be lucky. Its too bad we don't need a running back in round 2-3.


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 Post subject: Re: I want Hopkins!
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He would be a great pick. Wilson deserves to have as many great players to throw to as possible and we really need some WR depth. I'd be thrilled if he was the pick


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 Post subject: Re: I want Hopkins!
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I would absolutely love if we took him in the first round. I've been watching him all last season and couldn't think of a better target for Wilson.


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 Post subject: Re: I want Hopkins!
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If we pick him I won't complain, although I can't say I want him. There is better value in the 2nd round of the draft at WR imo.

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 Post subject: Re: I want Hopkins!
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The highlight video of him on youtbube makes me drool everytime. He fits in perfectly with the attitude of this team...my lawd he and Wilson would be so very nice.

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 Post subject: Re: I want Hopkins!
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If we pick him I won't complain, although I can't say I want him. There is better value in the 2nd round of the draft at WR imo.


Value? Yes. Impact? Iffy.

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 Post subject: Re: I want Hopkins!
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If our first round pick this year isn't either a WR or a DT than I'll be extremely disappointed. I think at 25 there should be some good players at either position to consider. I really want Hopkins but DT- Kawaan Short is also very intriguing to me.


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 Post subject: Re: I want Hopkins!
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Hopkins measured in at 6'1, 214, 33"+ arms and 10" hands. Bigger than expected, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if he is gone by our pick.


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Give me Hopkins and Wheaton!

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