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Categorical Focus
Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:08 pm
  • Looking back on the last three seasons we’ve all started to notice trends about how this regime deals with the roster, free agency and the draft.

    The first off season under Papa Pete was marked with massive roster turnover, and while at first the approach seemed scatter shot what has become clear now is that first season Pete and John were clearly trying to infuse youth and competitiveness into a roster that had become old, stagnant and slow. The focus of that first season clearly was an overall and massive cultural shift. While younger and still inconsistent the team showed toughness and swagger that was nowhere to be found in Homgrens last year and Mora’s only year. The result was a 7-9 season and a miraculous earth shaking (literally)playoff victory over the visiting defending champs.

    The second season under PC saw the focus narrow. They very clearly said they wanted to focus on getting tougher and that we knew we had to address the offensive line. Enter Tom Cable, Paul McQuistan, James Carpenter, and John Moffit and they re-signed Breno Giacomini. Toughness indeed. They also got bigger, faster, younger and tougher in the secondary. Insert Brandon Browner for an injured Thurmond, insert Richard Sherman for an injured Tru and insert Kam in place of Lawyer Milloy and the Legion of Boom was born.

    Last off season PC told us plain as day, “we need to get faster”. What do they do? They went out and got Bruce Irvin, Bobby Wagner, DangeRuss, and Robert Turbin. That’s some serious speed on both sides of the ball.

    So what did we learn here?

    *This front office tells us exactly what they’re going to do. Not in specifics, but they tell us.

    *This front office, outside of Sidney Rice and Zach Miller don’t generally spend a ton of cash on high priced free agents.

    *This front office, when it identifies a need, will make multiple moves to strengthen a position(s), not just one or two.

    What does that mean for this offseason? While I couldn’t tell you specifically, I can tell you that Pete said we need more pass rusherS. Plural. But I don’t see them breaking the bank to do it in free agency. So even though there probably won’t be too many block buster deals this March around the league due to teams saving cap space for the next couple of years I highly doubt we see Henry Melton or Randy Starks at the VMAC come training camp. I would be shocked however, if Desmond Bryant out of Oakland wasn’t targeted. I would also not be surprised at all to see our first 3 picks of the upcoming draft spend on Defensive Linemen. One Defensive End, One 3 down 3 Technique DT, one third down pass rush specialist for the interior and let them compete with Scruggs and Jay Howard. I don’t see Alan Branch coming back. Maybe Jason Jones gets another one year deal.
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Re: Categorical Focus
Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:24 pm
  • SacHawk2.0 wrote:*This front office, outside of Sidney Rice and Zach Miller don’t generally spend a ton of cash on high priced free agents.


    ...And Flynn.

    But yes, in general this front office is very upfront and honest with what they want to do to improve the roster. And building through the draft is still the critical concept in action.

    Pete has also made comments saying he wants to surround Wilson with more talent. That could mean a better offensive line or it could mean skill players.
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Re: Categorical Focus
Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:21 pm
  • FlyingGreg wrote:
    SacHawk2.0 wrote:*This front office, outside of Sidney Rice and Zach Miller don’t generally spend a ton of cash on high priced free agents.


    ...And Flynn.


    Flynn wasn't that expensive for a QB when you consider they signed him prior to drafting Wilson.
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Re: Categorical Focus
Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:26 pm
  • Basis4day wrote:
    FlyingGreg wrote:
    SacHawk2.0 wrote:*This front office, outside of Sidney Rice and Zach Miller don’t generally spend a ton of cash on high priced free agents.


    ...And Flynn.


    Flynn wasn't that expensive for a QB when you consider they signed him prior to drafting Wilson.


    Still a lot of cash.
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Re: Categorical Focus
Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:04 pm
  • Why people think Flynn is making a lot is beyond me. He is basically making a little bit more than back up money, especially when you factor in that our starter is making nothing and can't for a couple more years.

    Flynn ranked 22 out of 32 in terms of projected starters salaries last year, even Hasslebeck makes more. Of those bottom 10 there were 6 still in there rookie contracts.

    If we can't get a great deal for Flynn then I say he sits behind rw.
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Re: Categorical Focus
Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:22 pm
  • Holy crap, Schadie and I agree on something...
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Re: Categorical Focus
Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:42 pm
  • Schadie001 wrote:Why people think Flynn is making a lot is beyond me. He is basically making a little bit more than back up money, especially when you factor in that our starter is making nothing and can't for a couple more years.

    Flynn ranked 22 out of 32 in terms of projected starters salaries last year, even Hasslebeck makes more. Of those bottom 10 there were 6 still in there rookie contracts.

    If we can't get a great deal for Flynn then I say he sits behind rw.


    "People think it" ... because it's true. His cap hit is $7.25 million. That's a lot of cheddar that can be applied elsewhere.

    Nobody is saying he is overpaid, or that it would be the worse thing in the world to keep him. And his contract is certainly not prohibitive, especially in the context of the overall money being paid for our QB position.

    If it comes down to moving Flynn and using that money to extend Thomas or Chancellor, for example - I'm down.
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Re: Categorical Focus
Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:26 pm
  • A few years ago, someone figured out that the average NFL backup makes $1.6 million. There's probably been some salary inflation since then, so let's round up to $2 million. Matt Flynn's cap hit is $7.25 million this year and $8.25 million next year. That's several times the backup average and it would make him one of the highest paid players on the team.

    No way they pay him that, especially in the new rolling cap CBA where every dollar you save matters for years to come.

    I'm not even sure Seattle wants Flynn anymore. All the talk about wanting a read option backup seems like a very direct statement regarding Flynn and his inability to run it. Plus there is also the fact that Seattle tends to let players go that do not have a future with the team anymore rather than stringing things out. I would be more than a little surprised if Flynn was still on our roster by May 1st.
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Re: Categorical Focus
Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:58 pm
  • I don't disagree, but I'm pretty sure we'll get something for him in trade. As to his salary, he makes more than the average backup sure. But legit starter money is over ten mil a year and franchise money is between 15 and 20.

    We may want a more athletic backup but Flynn can run everything we do except the option. I believe he's starting caliber.
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Re: Categorical Focus
Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:17 am
  • I agree that 7.5 mill would be a lot to pay a back up if you were also paying your starter similar or more money. We are not. Our starter is not making anywhere near that type of money, so in my opinion it is a wash. This would be a big deal in a couple years when RW's contract is being negotiated. We wouldn't want out backup making this much money. But you can basically say that our backup is making what our starter should make and our starter is making what our backup should make. A wash...
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Re: Categorical Focus
Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:20 am
  • What will be done in case Flynn is moved? FA or draft? Having a good back up QB is important these days.
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