Axx wrote:its like saying we should move sherman to WR.
kearly wrote:You aren't crazy Wenhawk. I think Wagner's skillset (strong vs pass weak vs run) suits him best at WLB.
That said, this draft is a lot deeper at WLB than it is at MLB, and if Seattle drafts somebody like Greene, Brown, or Ogletree, then I'd imagine Wagner would probably stay put.
Hasselbeck wrote:Matt Flynn should be our starter. Wilson is nothing more than a backup and will never amount to anything in this league.
bellingerga wrote:Why move him from the spot he did extroardinarily well at, for a Rookie. He should have been rookie of the year IMO, and he's only going to get better.
You don't fix something that's not broken. Just leave him there and draft a WLB
Wenhawk wrote:Wow a lot of smart a$$ responses for a fairly reasonable out of the box idea. Moving Lynch, Wilson, Sherman is ridiculous and obviously you don't have any insight to this topic, and neither does all the can't wait for the season, so you post a thoughtless answer and make yourself look silly.
So it seems that Kearly responded with the closest to what I was actually looking for by noticing this draft is stronger at WLB than MLB and that we should be able to fill the WLB easily. But if we did fall in love with a MLB prospect maybe one who is not as athletic but more of a leader type, I don't think it would hurt to have KJ, Wagner and a new MLB know all the calls and be versatile enough to play multiple positions. We have had a ton of success starting rookie MLB's so I would not be too worried.
Anyways I think this is more of an actual possibility, not saying it is a gretest idea, but if anyone ont he team is switching positions Wagner to WLB would be one of the most seamless.
Wow a lot of smart a$$ responses for a fairly reasonable out of the box idea. Moving Lynch, Wilson, Sherman is ridiculous and obviously you don't have any insight to this topic, and neither does all the can't wait for the season, so you post a thoughtless answer and make yourself look silly.
chris98251 wrote:Wow a lot of smart a$$ responses for a fairly reasonable out of the box idea. Moving Lynch, Wilson, Sherman is ridiculous and obviously you don't have any insight to this topic, and neither does all the can't wait for the season, so you post a thoughtless answer and make yourself look silly.
Many think your idea is also silly, smart ass maybe a MLB directing the defense that was successful in his first season with the rankings we had he was key. We can find a WLB that has better hips and can cover, we seem to pick them up pretty regular in the draft.
Condesending tones of nobody has any insight that posted except yourself is only going to bring more backlash as well. Glad your so elite in you assessments though, us minions of stupidity can sit back and watch you educate us.
I also remember you blasting many peoples ideas over the years, smart ass or not you get what you give, deal with it quit whining about yourself being picked on my the big blue meanies.
Wenhawk wrote:chris98251 wrote:Wow a lot of smart a$$ responses for a fairly reasonable out of the box idea. Moving Lynch, Wilson, Sherman is ridiculous and obviously you don't have any insight to this topic, and neither does all the can't wait for the season, so you post a thoughtless answer and make yourself look silly.
Many think your idea is also silly, smart ass maybe a MLB directing the defense that was successful in his first season with the rankings we had he was key. We can find a WLB that has better hips and can cover, we seem to pick them up pretty regular in the draft.
Condesending tones of nobody has any insight that posted except yourself is only going to bring more backlash as well. Glad your so elite in you assessments though, us minions of stupidity can sit back and watch you educate us.
I also remember you blasting many peoples ideas over the years, smart ass or not you get what you give, deal with it quit whining about yourself being picked on my the big blue meanies.
Don't feel picked on just think completely dismissing the idea and making it a joke is a little unfair, I figured that people could give an actual analysis for pro's and cons and considering Wagner is a LB moving from one LB spot to another is not nearly as drastic as moving a CB to WR or any of the other ideas. Moving Red back to DT can be argued but is not something worth laughing at it is not likely but could happen.
Wagner at WLB shouldn't be out of the question but I guess most feel it is. And I am not claiming to have tons of knowledge I can educate people with, I posted this to gain knowledge as to how he could fit at WLB and besides the obvious don't mess with a good thing argument expected someone to try and convince me he couldn't play that position.
As it stands it seems the consensus is Wagner is firmly entrenched at MLB, yet Keechley who won DROY started at OLB and moved inside and his production was exceptional at both positions. I feel like the position is somewhat interchangeable depending on team personel styles and was mostly intrigued with drafting Bostic out of Florida in the 4th/5th area, if he could start at MLB and play well and WAgner could still excell as a WLB it seems like it would be a good move allowing us to use our other early picks on DT/DE/TE/WR.
Wenhawk wrote:I get Wagner was successful at MLB and why change a good thing right, but i was just thinking if we can get an equivilant at MLB easier than an WLB. I figure Wagz could play WLB. It migth cost us a 2nd to get a starting WLB but if we could get a starting MLB in the 3rd would that be worth it?
Wenhawk wrote:Before the season I thought I remembered Pete talking about how they were going to see how Wagner does at MLB, but also thought he could play on the outside. Consider Wagner does have a ton of speed I think he could handle WLB, he seemed to have some success rushing the passer so maybe he'd get more opportunities on the outside. Does anyone else see us potentially moving Wagner outside and drafting a new MLB if the value is there? Or is this just a crazy idea?
pinksheets wrote:You've left the realm of reasonable comparisons. Wagner did not play like Patrick Willis last year, it's entirely possible we could find improvement at MLB or similar play at MLB with Wagner providing the best play at WLB.
Wagner has not proven elite at MLB, he had a really good rookie season, but he's not untouchable, and moving him over one spot is not a night and day change. I'm not saying its likely, but you guys are just spewing at the mouth with these stupid comparisons of moving Kam to FB, Okung to FS, and Wilson to hot dog vendor. Let's get some perspective.
Scottemojo wrote:I think moving Wagner to WLB is legit. I still don't trust his run gapping instincts. And his speed is easy to project.
T-Sizzle wrote:While we are at it lets put Kam at lber, Sherman at Wr.
Wenhawk wrote:T-Sizzle wrote:While we are at it lets put Kam at lber, Sherman at Wr.
Kam at LB is not too crazy but I think you were just being a smarta$$. After reading some of the others coments have you been convinced Wagner to WLB is not that ridiculous.
Basis4day wrote:Wenhawk wrote:T-Sizzle wrote:While we are at it lets put Kam at lber, Sherman at Wr.
Kam at LB is not too crazy but I think you were just being a smarta$$. After reading some of the others coments have you been convinced Wagner to WLB is not that ridiculous.
Some around here (myself included) have a tough time justifying moving a player when they have already shown they have what it takes to excel at their position. Wagner is a rookie who was runner up for defensive rookie of the year.
Doesn't it make more sense to address other needs at #25 and find a WILL LB later? They could have replaced Hill with Wagner at the WILL and go with Ruud at MIKE. They didn't. They went with the Rookie at MIKE. And all he did was be the runner up for DROY. I think those facts speak volumes about where he should play. And again, hes a rookie. Let the rookies develop, especially the ones who have shown so much when given the opportunity,
If this front office has shown me anything, it's an ability to find DB's and LB's.
Basis4day wrote:Some around here (myself included) have a tough time justifying moving a player when they have already shown they have what it takes to excel at their position. Wagner is a rookie who was runner up for defensive rookie of the year.
Doesn't it make more sense to address other needs at #25 and find a WILL LB later? They could have replaced Hill with Wagner at the WILL and go with Ruud at MIKE. They didn't. They went with the Rookie at MIKE. And all he did was be the runner up for DROY. I think those facts speak volumes about where he should play. And again, hes a rookie. Let the rookies develop, especially the ones who have shown so much when given the opportunity,
If this front office has shown me anything, it's an ability to find DB's and LB's.
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