Lulz that the idea that humans aren't innately aggressive is being posted on a football board. That's some cognitive dissonance right there.

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Huh? I have specifically and blatantly said that such a goal is not possible, and YOU'RE the one saying it's not even improbable to have a perfect utopia. Talk about projecting; good Lord...

As long as some bitch says, "If you give me 'that', I'll fuck you," there will be violence.

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Earlier you said the root problem is violence after posting that silly cartoon. Then you say no one takes the time to solve the root problem as evidenced in this post:



After a post like that, I took it to mean that you think looking for legislative solutions that offer more gun training, and more tools for law enforcement as dismissable, because both look for ways to manage our country's guns safely. Neither address the "root problem" that you identify as human violence.

Then you post a link to Cracked.com showing case studies of the natural evil and ignorance of humans after Sonic suggested a future with no violence. I point out that those same studies also provide education to learn our own evil behaviors and potentially prevent them (knowledge is power!). I was loosely suggesting that Sonic may be right. If we can become totally aware of our actions, maybe we can become a non-violent species... in like a million years.

Solving the "root problem" as you suggest would be to solve human violence, yet you criticize me for thinking a Utopia is probable. Get real, and learn reading comprehension.

I actually think that finding a way to make people accountable for their own actions, both minor and major, is something we really need. Before anybody points out that people are accountable for their actions...No, they're not. You know how many burglars get caught? Just over 1 out of every 10 get solved.

What a joke. Even murder rates aren't very good, though they're a lot better than burglary, for obvious reasons. In 2011, 64.8% of homicides were solved. You've got better than a 1 in 3 chance of getting away with murder. If you plan it carefully and are intelligent, I'm guessing that number goes down significantly. "Solved" homicides include assailants that get shot & killed by police after having just killed people, crimes of passion where it's a murder-suicide, murderers who turn themselves in, etc. For someone who performs premeditated murder and is intelligent, I'd guess the solve rate is below 40%. Maybe even significantly below that. That's just a guess, though; I haven't been able to find anything in a few minutes of Googling to verify this one way or the other.

Homicide solving is around 65%. Much lower than it used to be. While all well and good, that still follows more under "give law enforcement better tools" not "solve the root problem."

Wrongful imprisonment is also down over the past few decades. Better tools (DNA testing, specifically) have made homicides both easier and harder to solve, in some ways. Civil rights have sure come more into the mainstream eye, you can literally get away with murder on the tiniest of technicalities nowadays, whereas that didn't happen as much a few decades back. Regardless, why the solve rate for murder has been going down while the percentage of murders has also been dropping is a separate topic and a lengthy one.

There is tremendous evidence of my opinion that people will by and large do things they think they can get away with, though.

I think we should get rid of all guns like Japan but i know that would never happen. I believe we should do something about the war on drugs, I feel like a lot of these shootings are gang related. Possibly see how Washingtons and Denvers gunshot death rate go after the new legalization of Weed.

It's sad that Fox News is the only media outlet willing to publish pro-gun articles such as this one. Had this man been unarmed, he would have been a victim, subject to the whims of those invading his home.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/06/la ... =obnetwork

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This happened this week in my town. http://www.theolympian.com/2013/02/10/2 ... ounds.html
Intruder high on meth, warned to stop, instead charged the homeowner and got shot.

Too bad that guy didn't just kill him, 12evanf. (I'm serious.)

How many fewer home invasions would we see if every household in America was armed and had one or more people in there that knew how to use their weapon, I wonder?

If Obama truly had his way, this person would have been a victim, guaranteed. If this were the UK, the individual who was defending his home and family would have been convicted on murder charges as self defense can't be claimed in the courts there.

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So because some people aren't stopped by guns, we should rarify guns and screw over more of those who might otherwise be helped? What kind of logic is that?

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That instance DID stop the intruder. I was tyring to be unpartisan and throw Smokin a bone. The local sheriff came out and said that the case was the perfect example of a home owner protecting himself.

Intruders high on meth is a good case to want a gun.

Fixed it for ya.

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Ah. I misinterpreted you, sorry.

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Just like defending one's home and property from hordes of looters, such as the kinds which came out of the woodwork in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, is a good case to want a gun with a lot of rounds.

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Beware the Hordes of Umatilla!!

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Those Mexican gangbangers can be a scary bunch when they band together.

In reality, Tri-Cities, with its approximately 250,000 inhabitants, just 25 miles to the North of Umatilla (where I haven't lived in well over a year), would be an issue in the event of a major catastrophe. Anyone in a populated area, so interested in preserving ownership of their stuff in the wake of a natural disaster, should own one of the rifles presently being demonized by the media.

I suppose it's a good thing Washington State isn't prone to catastrophic events like wind storms, land slides, earthquakes, and erupting volcanoes. Oh, wait...

Well, if one of those disasters DOES happen, we can trust the government to make everything turn out ok, right? Right?

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Thought I'd post this here, rather than yet another thread showing how absolutely stupid California politics are. According to Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), pretty much any military veteran probably has PTSD and shouldn't be allowed to buy guns.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/03/08/feinstein_veterans_may_have_ptsd_and_should_not_be_exempt_from_assault_weapons_ban.html

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