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Zach Ertz 37%  37%  [ 22 ]
Tyler Eifert 14%  14%  [ 8 ]
Gavin Escobar 20%  20%  [ 12 ]
Jordan Reed 19%  19%  [ 11 ]
Other 10%  10%  [ 6 ]
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 Post subject: Best TE for us in the draft: Ertz, Eifert, Escobar or Reed?
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I see us drafting a TE in either the first or second round to play across from zach miller as the U tight end. There are 4 options in the first 2 rounds, Zach Ertz, Tyler Eifert, Gavin Escobar or Jordan Reed. I say Tyler Eifert is the best tight end but its close between all 4 of them and I would be happy drafting any one of them. So who do you think is the best tight end in this draft?
Edit: who is the best tight end for us in the draft?


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 Post subject: Re: Best TE in the draft: Ertz, Eifert, Escobar or Reed?
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Best TE in the draft, or best TE for us?

Because the answers to those questions are different.

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McGruff wrote:
Best TE in the draft, or best TE for us?

Because the answers to those questions are different.

I should refrase that, best for us. Because I think Zach Ertz is the best tight end but Tyler Eifert is the best tight end for us because of his ability to win jump balls and make big plays without many opportunities.


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I think Reed is the best for us, because he offer the mst big play potential, something we lack from all of our receivers.

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McGruff wrote:
I think Reed is the best for us, because he offer the mst big play potential, something we lack from all of our receivers.

And we could get him in the second round while the other 3 would have to be 1st round picks, or we would have to trade up in the 2nd.


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McGruff wrote:
I think Reed is the best for us, because he offer the mst big play potential, something we lack from all of our receivers.


GOLDEN freakin TATE hellooo


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I think Reed is the best for us, because he offer the mst big play potential, something we lack from all of our receivers.


GOLDEN freakin TATE hellooo


He was the worst of all the receivers, as far as big plays... :sarcasm_on: :34853_doh:

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 Post subject: Re: Best TE for us in the draft: Ertz, Eifert, Escobar or Reed?
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No love for Tavis Kelce?

I don't think Travis Kelce is as good of a reciever and is similar to zach miller, we need a receiving tight end or a "U" tight end.


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No love for Tavis Kelce?

I don't think Travis Kelce is as good of a reciever and is similar to zach miller, we need a receiving tight end or a "U" tight end.

As much as I want to utilize a Jimmy Graham-type tight end receiver, I'm not sure Seattle wants to heavily feature a "U" tight end unless as more of a situational role player taking partial snaps as the #3 guy. If the idea is for Seattle to stick with mostly 2 "Y" tightends like they've done so far, it's not out of the realm of possibilities they'd draft a TE, not to upgrade Moore, but to upgrade McCoy. Personally I'd think it was awesome to have a Miller and Graham, but I'd be just as happy having two Miller's.

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 Post subject: Re: Best TE for us in the draft: Ertz, Eifert, Escobar or Reed?
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Check out this article for more on tight end class and our need for one. http://www.fieldgulls.com/nfl-draft/201 ... he-varying


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Check out this article for more on tight end class and our need for one. http://www.fieldgulls.com/nfl-draft/201 ... he-varying


Great article, though the writer pretty pretty much said a Zach Miller "Y" type tight end should be the teams highest priority.

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seahawks875 wrote:
Check out this article for more on tight end class and our need for one. http://www.fieldgulls.com/nfl-draft/201 ... he-varying


Great article, though the writer pretty pretty much said a Zach Miller "Y" type tight end should be the teams highest priority.

It also had tyler Eifert and zach Ertz listed as guys that are U tight ends but are good enough blockers to play as a Y tight end, we could draft one of them in the first round


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I like Eifert

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Check out this article for more on tight end class and our need for one. http://www.fieldgulls.com/nfl-draft/201 ... he-varying


Great article, though the writer pretty pretty much said a Zach Miller "Y" type tight end should be the teams highest priority.

It also had tyler Eifert and zach Ertz listed as guys that are U tight ends but are good enough blockers to play as a Y tight end, we could draft one of them in the first round

I agree. I wouldn't be against that. They're both receiving threats but can stay inline and block.

I think the joker tight end will be more addressed in the mid-rounds. Escobar or Reed falling to the 3rd would be an ideal pick to fill that role.

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Here's my bottom line with TEs this year:

If you go TE in R1, he better have the ability to REPLACE Zach Miller in the future. This player should have the ability to be a consistent pass catching threat whilst becoming a good to great blocking TE. To me, the only person who has this ability/growth is Zach Ertz.

Now, if you want a strictly receiving TE, who can compliment the run game (blocking wise), then a) you don't spend a 1st rounder on him & b) you make sure this prospect has the athletic ability to consistently separate from S & LBs. To me, this is Jordan Reed. He has premiere athletic ability, even if he doesn't run a 4.4. I was actually surprised how I did see effective blocking from him, even if it wasn't pretty/mauling. He had plenty of chips and good angles to create enough lanes for the RB to get positive yardage. Again, you aren't drafting him for blocking, but I was genuinely surprised by his effectiveness (see TAMU game for some examples of this).

I've really paid attention to most of these TEs throughout the year. TE is not only my favorite position, but I also knew this could be a position of need/interest this year. After watching all of these guys, I have to say my favorite TE in this draft (relative to perceived draft value) is Jordan Reed. He won't run a 4.4, but he has elite athletic ability for a TE and was surprised how much better his blocking was (it's still not 'good') than what I had heard. He is not a mauler (never will be) but he's athletic and just big enough to create enough space in the blocking game to not "show" the Seahawks hand when he is in the game. Quite honestly, I like him a lot more than Aaron Hernandez (coming out) and I could see the Seahawks really loving him as a prospect. He was a former QB which gives him a unique ability to better understand the passing game. I could easily see him becoming the go to guy of Russell Wilson on 3rd down and in the RZ. I don't know anything about his attitude/work ethic, but for a former QB, he made a very nice transition to the TE position, especially when you realize he played in the SEC.


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At first glance, I thought Escobar and Eifert were the two best tight ends because of thier physicality and highlight reel catches, but after watching more tape, I prefer Zach Ertz and Jordan Reed because of thier superior athleticism and route running ability. Of the two, I would choose Jordan Reed because I think he has better hands, is more athletic and does better after TE catch than Ertz.
Here are my new tight end rankings:
1. Jordan Reed
2. Zach Ertz
3. Gavin Escobar
4. Tyler Eiffert


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Jordan Reed. Though i doubt he will last till our 2nd round pick, which is another reason i see us moving around a lot in this draft.

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I really like Escobar, players that stand out on teams without a glut of powerhouse talent would seem to mesh with this teams mentality. I think they could all add something to Seattle but I would pick Escobar given the choice unless he came across as a diva or something when interviewing.

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I really like Escobar, players that stand out on teams without a glut of powerhouse talent would seem to mesh with this teams mentality. I think they could all add something to Seattle but I would pick Escobar given the choice unless he came across as a diva or something when interviewing.

I've seen some of his interviews, seems like the opposite of a diva


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I like Reed as he can be a mismatch creator for us with his athletic ability. I could see him be an Aaron Hernandez for us.

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I voted Eifert as the best (I didn't look at the criteria of best fit for our team till after I voted), but he'll probably be gone in the first round, and I wouldn't want us to take him if he fell to #25. I agree that if we are going after a tight end, we could get one for better value in rounds 2-4. I would go defense with the first round and choose among the talent with first-round grades on d-line and LB (except Hopkins, which I would pull the trigger on). The greatest tight-ends of this era have come in later rounds--Graham (Rd. 3), Gronkowski (Rd. 2), Gates (Free Agent). Here are the Tight Ends taken in round 1 over the last 11 years:

1. Vernon Davis, 49ers (No. 6, 2006)
2. Dallas Clark, Colts (No. 24, 2003)
3. Heath Miller, Steelers (No. 30, 2005)
4. Kellen Winslow, Browns (No. 6. 2004)
5. Brandon Pettigrew, Lions (No. 20, 2009)
6. Jeremy Shockey, Giants (No. 14, 2002)
7. Dustin Keller, Jets (No. 30, 2008)
8. Marcedes Lewis, Jaguars (No. 28, 2006)
9. Jermaine Gresham, Bengals (No. 21, 2010)
10. Daniel Graham, Patriots (No. 21, 2002)
11. Greg Olsen, Bears (No. 31, 2007)
12. Ben Watson, Patriots (No. 32, 2004)
13. Jerramy Stevens, (No. 28, 2002)

All of these have been starters, and some have even contributed significantly to their respective teams, but none, save maybe Vernon Davis and Dallas Clark, are "elite" or stars in their respective teams.

If we are in round 2, and Eifert, Kelce, Ertz, Reed, or Escobar are still on the board (in that order), I might take them if our top 5 d-linemen and our top 5 LBs and Hopkins are not there in Rd. 2. Otherwize, I would wait till Round 3 and take whomever was left on that list. I would also support trading up in Rd. 2 to get both a defender that fills a need and a TE.


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We arent drafting TE in the first 4 rounds.

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We arent drafting TE in the first 4 rounds.


We very well could so don't be so sure. If we get a DT or DE in Free Agency I could see TE being a much higher priority in the draft.

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TE just isn't a priority and we aren't going to spend any significant money in FA this year with the following year looming.

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There have been reports of Vance McDonald doing a surprisingly well job of blocking in the All-Star game, which has led to the rise in his stock, correct?

How about sign Delanie Walker away from the 49ers? Add to the Hawks and take away from them in the same move.

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