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 Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights
 Post Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:30 pm 
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Oh, I never disagreed. I was just busy restocking the canned goods stash in my basement, so I didn't say more at the time.


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 Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights
 Post Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:16 pm 
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Boy, you have a one track mind, don't you? OMG ITS ALL THE REPUBBIES FAULT!!!
What, then, of all the Democrats who voted to keep it around?


Boy you seem to have a problem with FACTS don't you??? The statements in my post you were referring to was 100% factual, why does those set of facts make you angry at ME????

Why is that a "conservative" can NEVER admit their party fucked up, without using qualifiers or saying "the other guys do it too!" ??????

So in your myopic little world because Obama fucked up (which he did IMHO) by not getting rid of the Patriot Act that lets the Bush Admin and his republican lead congress off the hook with a free pass in your eyes?

Yes, the democrats are at fault if they choose to keep it around (and so far they have BTW)with Obama at the top of that list. If you could take off your "conservative colored" glasses for 30 seconds and did a little research you'd see that I've posted negative things about Obama and his embrace of the patriot act and the NDAA.




This is why I jump "conservatives" shit when the phony birther shit, Benghazi, and Obama is trying to take my guns bullshit is spewed, your side "cry's wolf" too much over made up shit, then when issues about the Patriot act and NDAA pop up, REAL issues, everyone thinks you are just a bunch mindless rubes spouting their usual line of utter bullshit. Mindsets like yours that are married to a political party of political ideology are whats wrong with this country. That's why I'll never be a member of any political party.

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 Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights
 Post Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:25 pm 
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I'm not here to defend the democrats but which party wrote and supported the patriot act pretty much unanimously. Cue the jeopardy music...... The pubbies opened up pandora a box with the patriot act and we are all now starting to pay the price!


And of course the fact that many of those very representatives who voted against the Patriot Act when Bush was President voted to strengthen and widen it when Obama was president. This isn't a party issue, it's a power issue and no matter which party is in power, they will continue to use whatever means necessary to erode the rights of all Americans


In certain instances you are correct, and those that did should be voted out of office just like those that voted for the original patriot act should be voted out. I also think its important to not forget who "birthed" the patriot act (Bush Co)and all of those folks from both parties (even Hillary Clinton) that voted for it, just like its important to remember who introduced the NDAA (see Obama)..

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