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SmokinHawk
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Post subject: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights  Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:06 pm |
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So apparently the Department of Homeland Security now has the right to search and seize any electronic device they wish, within 100 miles of the United States borders. Could our government wipe their mouths with the Constitution any more? http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/0 ... -seizures/
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Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:11 pm |
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They've been doing it anyways, they just had a study that was supposed to take a month or two to decide whether or not it was constitutional. The document ended up taking 2 years instead and was only 2 pages. It's been going on for quite a while from what I read.
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Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:23 pm |
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There should be reasonable suspicion. It seems odd that someone would want to search a laptop that didn't have reasonable suspicion.
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Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:43 pm |
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Here's hoping the ACLU wins this one.
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Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:59 pm |
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MontanaHawk05 wrote: Here's hoping the ACLU wins this one. Hey, here's one where I think we can all agree on (even me, the Government can do no wrong guy!).
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Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:28 pm |
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Fuck! Most of us live within 100 miles of the border. (One border or another.) I read last year where the Border Patrol was stopping people near Port Angeles; just for folks looking like IAs! Gestapo city, next stop! I hate when MY government pulls shit like this!! Just another reason for me to keep my firearms. 
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Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:59 pm |
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If you live in Seattle or north of there, then you are within 100 miles of the border.
I laugh at the pitiful fools that think it would be a good idea to limit/remove the 2nd amendment.
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Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:30 am |
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The Outfield wrote: If you live in Seattle or north of there, then you are within 100 miles of the border.
I laugh at the pitiful fools that think it would be a good idea to limit/remove the 2nd amendment. Oh yeah? All these "socialist" changes and taking away "freedoms" and "rights" have been going on for years. What exactly has your ownership of guns prevented? Does it make you feel better? You think the government isn't doing things because citizens have guns? At what point will you start using these guns? They already own you.
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Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:13 am |
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SonicHawk wrote: The Outfield wrote: If you live in Seattle or north of there, then you are within 100 miles of the border.
I laugh at the pitiful fools that think it would be a good idea to limit/remove the 2nd amendment. Oh yeah? All these "socialist" changes and taking away "freedoms" and "rights" have been going on for years. What exactly has your ownership of guns prevented? Does it make you feel better? You think the government isn't doing things because citizens have guns? At what point will you start using these guns? They already own you. I agree that I am already owned. If I cross a line outside of the country, Mother can pinpoint me and drop a drone on my ass. 
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Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:28 am |
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SonicHawk wrote: The Outfield wrote: If you live in Seattle or north of there, then you are within 100 miles of the border.
I laugh at the pitiful fools that think it would be a good idea to limit/remove the 2nd amendment. Oh yeah? All these "socialist" changes and taking away "freedoms" and "rights" have been going on for years. What exactly has your ownership of guns prevented? Does it make you feel better? You think the government isn't doing things because citizens have guns? At what point will you start using these guns? They already own you. I think there is plenty the government doesn't do, sheerly because they are afraid of the consequences. At what point will the guns get used? God, hopefully it never comes to that point. It's not like those of us who feel the government is grossly overstepping their bounds are organizing a reprisal for a specific date. It's going to happen once a person, or a group of people, are pushed to their breaking point and their message finds sympathetic ears. Is it inevitable? Not at all. Is it a farfetched concept? Not remotely.
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Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:01 am |
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To put this in perspective, if you live in Mountlake Terrace (98 miles from the border), DoHS could perform a warrantless search and seizure of your cell phone, laptop, gaming console, home computer, probably even your television.
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Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:26 am |
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SmokinHawk wrote: To put this in perspective, if you live in Mountlake Terrace (98 miles from the border), DoHS could perform a warrantless search and seizure of your cell phone, laptop, gaming console, home computer, probably even your television. A good question is "which one of our "representatives" is passing this legislature?" And a follow up, "why are we electing these them?"
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Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:43 am |
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12evanf wrote: SmokinHawk wrote: To put this in perspective, if you live in Mountlake Terrace (98 miles from the border), DoHS could perform a warrantless search and seizure of your cell phone, laptop, gaming console, home computer, probably even your television. A good question is "which one of our "representatives" is passing this legislature?" And a follow up, "why are we electing these them?" Answers: All of them. And because 51% of the people voting have below-average intelligence. Remember, the same voting public that gives you our elected officials gave rise to the popularity of Justin Beiber, 12 million reality shows, 7 million talent shows, 50 Shades of Grey, and credence to a metric shit-ton of crappy Hollywood movies whose only redeeming factors are tits and explosions. Now the public wants Big Brother government to step in and keep us safe from ourselves. _________________ I blog, I tweet. When I'm not writing or goofing around on Seahawks.NET.
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Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:47 am |
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12evanf wrote: SmokinHawk wrote: To put this in perspective, if you live in Mountlake Terrace (98 miles from the border), DoHS could perform a warrantless search and seizure of your cell phone, laptop, gaming console, home computer, probably even your television. A good question is "which one of our "representatives" is passing this legislature?" And a follow up, "why are we electing these them?" Take a good, hard, look in the mirror. If you've voted in a Congressional election, for a member in either party (though especially the Democrats), and your guy won the election, you have probably voted for someone in favor of these policies. Good job.
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Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:30 am |
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SmokinHawk wrote: 12evanf wrote: SmokinHawk wrote: To put this in perspective, if you live in Mountlake Terrace (98 miles from the border), DoHS could perform a warrantless search and seizure of your cell phone, laptop, gaming console, home computer, probably even your television. A good question is "which one of our "representatives" is passing this legislature?" And a follow up, "why are we electing these them?" Take a good, hard, look in the mirror. If you've voted in a Congressional election, for a member in either party (though especially the Democrats), and your guy won the election, you have probably voted for someone in favor of these policies. Good job. I'm not here to defend the democrats but which party wrote and supported the patriot act pretty much unanimously. Cue the jeopardy music...... The pubbies opened up pandora a box with the patriot act and we are all now starting to pay the price!
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Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:42 am |
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Sports Hernia wrote: I'm not here to defend the democrats but which party wrote and supported the patriot act pretty much unanimously. Cue the jeopardy music...... The pubbies opened up pandora a box with the patriot act and we are all now starting to pay the price! And of course the fact that many of those very representatives who voted against the Patriot Act when Bush was President voted to strengthen and widen it when Obama was president. This isn't a party issue, it's a power issue and no matter which party is in power, they will continue to use whatever means necessary to erode the rights of all Americans
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Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:42 pm |
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Sports Hernia wrote: SmokinHawk wrote: 12evanf wrote: A good question is "which one of our "representatives" is passing this legislature?" And a follow up, "why are we electing these them?" Take a good, hard, look in the mirror. If you've voted in a Congressional election, for a member in either party (though especially the Democrats), and your guy won the election, you have probably voted for someone in favor of these policies. Good job. I'm not here to defend the democrats but which party wrote and supported the patriot act pretty much unanimously. Cue the jeopardy music...... The pubbies opened up pandora a box with the patriot act and we are all now starting to pay the price! Boy, you have a one track mind, don't you? OMG ITS ALL THE REPUBBIES FAULT!!! What, then, of all the Democrats who voted to keep it around?
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Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:16 pm |
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Seahawk Sailor wrote: 12evanf wrote: SmokinHawk wrote: To put this in perspective, if you live in Mountlake Terrace (98 miles from the border), DoHS could perform a warrantless search and seizure of your cell phone, laptop, gaming console, home computer, probably even your television. A good question is "which one of our "representatives" is passing this legislature?" And a follow up, "why are we electing these them?" Answers: All of them. And because 51% of the people voting have below-average intelligence. Remember, the same voting public that gives you our elected officials gave rise to the popularity of Justin Beiber, 12 million reality shows, 7 million talent shows, 50 Shades of Grey, and credence to a metric shit-ton of crappy Hollywood movies whose only redeeming factors are tits and explosions. Now the public wants Big Brother government to step in and keep us safe from ourselves. You're starting to make SHOCKER315 sound sane. _________________ GO HAWKS!!! Visit my Seahawks blog at 17power.blogspot.com!Follow me on Twitter at @17power
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Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:26 pm |
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MontanaHawk05 wrote: You're starting to make SHOCKER315 sound sane. What about my comments isn't accurate? Or is Justin Bieber not that big a thing anymore? _________________ I blog, I tweet. When I'm not writing or goofing around on Seahawks.NET.
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Post subject: Re: Drive within 100 miles of a border, bye 4th Amendment rights Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:27 pm |
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Oh, I never disagreed. I was just busy restocking the canned goods stash in my basement, so I didn't say more at the time.
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