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Is it ok for the government to take away a portion of the bill of rights?
Hell Yeah! I trust the government to control what is best for it's citizens 14%  14%  [ 4 ]
Hell No! You can't trust the government or any entity with my rights, they are sacred 71%  71%  [ 20 ]
I don't know, maybe it'd be ok if they just got rid of the ones I don't like 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I don't know, it would be nice to be safer, but if they take one, what stops them from taking the rest? 7%  7%  [ 2 ]
Other (please explain) 7%  7%  [ 2 ]
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If only you could shoot those 25%.

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SonicHawk wrote:
If only you could shoot those 25%.


MysterMatt wrote:
Poppycock.


It's so wonderful the kind of brilliant insight the two of you have added to this discussion here


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You're the one making arguments based on imaginary numbers, so don't be mad at me.


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MysterMatt wrote:
You're the one making arguments based on imaginary numbers, so don't be mad at me.


I have made no arguments based on imaginary numbers. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they aren't real.

Just for fun, I did a quick google search and found a gallup poll from December 2012. The question was:

Do you believe there should or should not be a law that would ban the possession of handguns, except by police and other authorized persons?

Those who said we should - 24% Those who said shouldn't - 74% and 2% had no opinion.

Now this question doesn't say the words repeal 2nd amendment, but according to the supreme court, this law is not legal under the constitution, so for it to be put into law, it would have to come with a repeal of the 2nd amendment.

As stated, I don't see this as a number great enough to get any kind of traction in repealing the 2nd amendment, but the statement I made was a large contingent of the minority want to see it done. If 49% is a minority, and 24% is 48% of that minority, then IMO, 24% is a rather large contingent of the minority.

Now, if you'd like to actually add anything of merit to the conversation other than your trolling idiocy, feel free.


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Nope, my only intent was to keep you honest. No need for you to keep acting like such a Nancy. BTW, the poll you found to back up your imagined numbers is from Gallup. Everyone knows that they're always wrong.


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Nope, my only intent was to keep you honest. No need for you to keep acting like such a Nancy. BTW, the poll you found to back up your imagined numbers is from Gallup. Everyone knows that they're always wrong.


Whatever


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MysterMatt wrote:
BTW, the poll you found to back up your imagined numbers is from Gallup. Everyone knows that they're always wrong.


I hope you're not trying to display intelligence.


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The Outfield wrote:
MysterMatt wrote:
BTW, the poll you found to back up your imagined numbers is from Gallup. Everyone knows that they're always wrong.


I hope you're not trying to display intelligence.

it's generally wasted in here, so jerking people like you and kidhawk (who occasionally has interesting things to say when he isn't hyperventilating) is a much better use of my limited time.


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MysterMatt wrote:
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MysterMatt wrote:
BTW, the poll you found to back up your imagined numbers is from Gallup. Everyone knows that they're always wrong.


I hope you're not trying to display intelligence.


it's generally wasted in here, so jerking people like you and kidhawk (who occasionally has interesting things to say when he isn't hyperventilating) is a much better use of my limited time.


I'm starting to notice that.


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MysterMatt wrote:
The Outfield wrote:
MysterMatt wrote:
BTW, the poll you found to back up your imagined numbers is from Gallup. Everyone knows that they're always wrong.


I hope you're not trying to display intelligence.

it's generally wasted in here, so jerking people like you and kidhawk (who occasionally has interesting things to say when he isn't hyperventilating) is a much better use of my limited time.


Thus my "whatever" comment :P


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The Outfield has yet to bring anything to the table except utter bullshit. At least I believe kidhawk comes from some sort of experience/intelligence.

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Thanks SonicHawk, I love you too ;)


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kidhawk wrote:
MysterMatt wrote:
Nope, my only intent was to keep you honest. No need for you to keep acting like such a Nancy. BTW, the poll you found to back up your imagined numbers is from Gallup. Everyone knows that they're always wrong.


Whatever



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kidhawk wrote:
MysterMatt wrote:
Nope, my only intent was to keep you honest. No need for you to keep acting like such a Nancy. BTW, the poll you found to back up your imagined numbers is from Gallup. Everyone knows that they're always wrong.


Whatever



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If our rights are so "sacred" then why is the US ranked #47 on the Press Freedom Index? Compared to last year which we were ranked 23, we took a huge step backwards.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2092173/World-Press-Freedom-Index-2011-U-S-U-K-drop.html#axzz2KQ6qQx1q

Why dont people that are defending gun limiations demand that we get more freedom of speech and remove any free press limitations?


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Axx wrote:
If our rights are so "sacred" then why is the US ranked #47 on the Press Freedom Index? Compared to last year which we were ranked 23, we took a huge step backwards.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2092173/World-Press-Freedom-Index-2011-U-S-U-K-drop.html#axzz2KQ6qQx1q

Why dont people that are defending gun limiations demand that we get more freedom of speech and remove any free press limitations?


I agree. I rarely shoot guns and I don't work for the press, but I know how fucked up it is when adults are told what to do.


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fenderbender123 wrote:
Axx wrote:
If our rights are so "sacred" then why is the US ranked #47 on the Press Freedom Index? Compared to last year which we were ranked 23, we took a huge step backwards.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2092173/World-Press-Freedom-Index-2011-U-S-U-K-drop.html#axzz2KQ6qQx1q

Why dont people that are defending gun limiations demand that we get more freedom of speech and remove any free press limitations?


I agree. I rarely shoot guns and I don't work for the press, but I know how fucked up it is when adults are told what to do.


Germany is high up on that list and they have very restrictive gun laws. Canada is high up on that list and more restrictive gun laws than us.

Guns have NOTHING to do with it.

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The Outfield has yet to bring anything to the table except utter bullshit. At least I believe kidhawk comes from some sort of experience/intelligence.



What a terrible thing to say.

Outfield brings much to the table first from one side and then the other.

:lol:

And kidhawk? Well I can't very well say bad things about him as he passed on banning me several times in years way past when Ravenhawk and I were ganging up on whatsyurprob.

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Here's an unreasonable search btw, happened in late january before the LAPD cop shootings:



They don't really have to change the bill of rights... just ignore it.


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I don't agree that thousands of innocent people are living and dying with the consequences of people that are stubbornly exagerating their RIGHTS to including killing anyone that offers up opposition, but, I'm flexible to the possible thousands of differing interpretations by all.
Piss on the bystanders, they've made their choices to not arm themselves.


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