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Ignore the cap.. If you could pick one player from each of the other three NFC West teams to play for the Seahawks next season, who would they be?
(idea stolen from the exact same topic on /r/NFL http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/18 ... the_other/)

My picks..

Arizona - Larry Fitzgerald
49'ers - Aldon Smith
Rams - Chris Long

I was almost tempted to swap Smith for Bowman as I'm not sure how Smith would do in a 4-3 as a SAM linebacker but I guess it's a luxury to have :)

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I actually just thought of Darnell Docket.. Could he do more at the seahawks than Larry could at this point? hmmm...

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With Russell throwing to Larry Fitz it would be hard to lose games.


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Taking into account current skill, future potential, and youth, I'd say:

Arizona: Calais Campbell (DE)

San Francisco: Aldon Smith (OLB)

St. Louis: Michael Brockers (DT)

If you plugged those three players into our defense, I don't think you'd have any more holes and this would be a record-setting defense imo.

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To either strengthen the Seahawks or weaken the opponent:


Arizona: Fitz
SF: Justin Smith (seems like that defense takes a huge hit without him there)
STL: Janoris Jenkins (Sherm on one side and Jenks on the other? Aw sheeeettt!)


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Fitzgerald and long from AZ and STL;

for SF i'm torn between Vernon Davis and Aldon Smith; we could use the OLB. But I'm not sure he's as good vs. the run as we want.

An offense with Fitz, Davis, Tate, and Rice on the field at once would be pretty much unstoppable so your defense wouldn't matter much.


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Taking into account current skill, future potential, and youth, I'd say:

Arizona: Calais Campbell (DE)

San Francisco: Aldon Smith (OLB)

St. Louis: Michael Brockers (DT)

If you plugged those three players into our defense, I don't think you'd have any more holes and this would be a record-setting defense imo.


:13: My thoughts exactly. All very good players who, provided they stay healthy, have many more years in front of them.


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I'm going in a whole different direction; instead of trying to better my team, I'm trying to cripple the rest of the division. They'll be our hardest competition all year anyway...

San Fran: I'm taking Kap. But I'm taking him after they trade away or cut Alex Smith. That offense suddenly doesn't look scary anymore with nobody to account for at the QB position.

STL: I'm taking Bradford for the same reason. While Long would make our defense better, the Rams wouldn't score more than 14 points a game with Clemens behind center

Arizona: Well, they've already crippled their QB position on their own so I would probably take Dockett to shore up our line and weaken theirs, though I could just as easily poach Peterson to be a slot CB and heir to Leon's return duties.

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STL: I'm taking Bradford for the same reason. While Long would make our defense better, the Rams wouldn't score more than 14 points a game with Clemens behind center.

I disagree with your thinking on this. First of all, there's no way they'd go into the season with Clemens as the starter, so they'd make a move for a QB anyway. Also, Bradford is decent, but I think he's one of those QBs who is good enough to keep you around .500, but not good enough to make the team a real contender, and too good to allow the team the high pick they need for a better QB.


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Lots of good options; none of which are kickers.


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Larry Fitzgerald
Navarro Bowman
Chris Long

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John Skelton
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It kind of frightens me that only SeatownJay said Iupati. He is the one linemen in the division that is leaps and bounds better than anything we have on our roster at his position. Regarding the thought of Akers: why? He was nothing special this season and we could do better than him easily off of that roster.

So, of course my answer is Iupati. Campbell from Arizona and Brockers from St. Louis.

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Regarding the thought of Akers: why? He was nothing special this season and we could do better than him easily off of that roster.

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Winterfell wrote:
Taking into account current skill, future potential, and youth, I'd say:

Arizona: Calais Campbell (DE)

San Francisco: Aldon Smith (OLB)

St. Louis: Michael Brockers (DT)

If you plugged those three players into our defense, I don't think you'd have any more holes and this would be a record-setting defense imo.


Great post and food for thought. I'd swap the Rams pick though with Chris Givens:

http://www.stlouisrams.com/team/roster/Chris-Givens/4a3ffa9f-7c0c-4762-af3d-15cba28b9d4e

Otherwise I agree one hundred percent. Campbell would find great work here specialist pass rusher, aldon smith would take the soft Will spot we have right now, and I want Givens for the speedster with hands and a chip on his shoulder.


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It kind of frightens me that only SeatownJay said Iupati. He is the one linemen in the division that is leaps and bounds better than anything we have on our roster at his position. Regarding the thought of Akers: why? He was nothing special this season and we could do better than him easily off of that roster.

So, of course my answer is Iupati. Campbell from Arizona and Brockers from St. Louis.

Agreed on Iupati, not so much on the AZ and STL picks. Jenkins + Sherm = savagery.

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Not much respect for Patrick Willis around these parts; he is a top 3 LB who just turned 28. He is also their defensive leader and makes all of their adjustments. That defense drops down 10 spots without him. Jim Harbaugh would be my second choice, but I couldn't stand having him involved with our team (practice squad QB coach?).

Losing Fitzgerald hurts the Cards the most. If you like Rice as a #1 then you will really like him as a #2.

Jeff Fisher is the choice when it comes to the Rams. He got his start as a defensive backs coach and we'll be happy to make him assistant defensive coordinator. With any luck the Rams will hire Rick Neuheisel and finish 2-14.

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Not much respect for Patrick Willis around these parts; he is a top 3 LB who just turned 28. He is also their defensive leader and makes all of their adjustments. That defense drops down 10 spots without him. Jim Harbaugh would be my second choice, but I couldn't stand having him involved with our team (practice squad QB coach?).

Losing Fitzgerald hurts the Cards the most. If you like Rice as a #1 then you will really like him as a #2.

Jeff Fisher is the choice when it comes to the Rams. He got his start as a defensive backs coach and we'll be happy to make him assistant defensive coordinator. With any luck the Rams will hire Rick Neuheisel and finish 2-14.


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Anyone who doesn't take Fitz is out of their mind.

Willis would be awesome and I'd take Brockers from STL.

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Not much respect for Patrick Willis around these parts; he is a top 3 LB who just turned 28. He is also their defensive leader and makes all of their adjustments. That defense drops down 10 spots without him.


Because it would mean reducing the role of our 22yo MLB who SHOULD have won DROY whose 140 tackles, 2 sacks and 3 interceptions (despite starting the season as a 2 down LB) matches up well with Willis' 120 tackles, 0.5 sacks, 2 interceptions and 2 forced fumbles


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Taking into account current skill, future potential, and youth, I'd say:

Arizona: Calais Campbell (DE)

San Francisco: Aldon Smith (OLB)

St. Louis: Michael Brockers (DT)

If you plugged those three players into our defense, I don't think you'd have any more holes and this would be a record-setting defense imo.


With the possible exception of taking Fitz over Campbell from the Cards, this is my list.

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Because it would mean reducing the role of our 22yo MLB who SHOULD have won DROY whose 140 tackles, 2 sacks and 3 interceptions (despite starting the season as a 2 down LB) matches up well with Willis' 120 tackles, 0.5 sacks, 2 interceptions and 2 forced fumbles

Keuchly had more responsibilities than Wagner this season and defensive stats can be extremely deceptive. If we looked at stats in a vacuum than the people advocating for Justin Smith (47 tackles, 3 sacks) would feel downright foolish.

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Let's stick a pin in this pipe dream.
In exchange for our covetousness where we steal our favorites from other teams, the other three teams get to take a player too.
The Cardinals take Russell Wilson.
The Rams take Marshawn Lynch.
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Let's stick a pin in this pipe dream.
In exchange for our covetousness where we steal our favorites from other teams, the other three teams get to take a player too.
The Cardinals take Russell Wilson.
The Rams take Marshawn Lynch.
The Niners take Dick Sure.


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Arizona - Larry Fitz
49ers - Colin Kap (backup QB)
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I get weakening the other team but Kap wouldn't see the field with RW here. Even for gimmicky plays, I want the ball in RW's hands, Kap can make some pretty bone-headed decisions.


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Let's stick a pin in this pipe dream.
In exchange for our covetousness where we steal our favorites from other teams, the other three teams get to take a player too.
The Cardinals take Russell Wilson.
The Rams take Marshawn Lynch.
The Niners take Dick Sure.


I had the exact same thought. Knowing that each team would also get to pick a player from the Seahawks roster, the decisions who we pick would probably be different.


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For simply making the Seahawks team better (for longer than 1 season) and not doing extensive research on the players for scheme fit the list comes down to.

Cards: Fitz, Peterson, Washington, Campbell
49ers: VD, Willis, Iupati
Rams: Long, Jenkins, Quinn, Brockers, Laurinaitis

I have a feeling Justin Smith and Willis are huge parts of what make Aldon and Bowman great so I will pass on them for this. I would want Justin the most but he's too old and banged up.

Cards: It seems impossible to not take Fitz here but I'm going with Patrick Peterson. He will replace and upgrade both Browner and Leon. This would complete our elite secondary.
49ers: I really wanna take Vernon Davis here but I think upgrading OG is more important for the offense so give me Iupati. (LB would be easiest to upgrade in draft).
Rams: Quinn could possibily be a product of Long on the other side so it's between Long and Brockers for me. DT is our biggest need but Long is proven. Going with Long.

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Scottemojo wrote:
Let's stick a pin in this pipe dream.
In exchange for our covetousness where we steal our favorites from other teams, the other three teams get to take a player too.
The Cardinals take Russell Wilson.
The Rams take Marshawn Lynch.
The Niners take Dick Sure.


I had the exact same thought. Knowing that each team would also get to pick a player from the Seahawks roster, the decisions who we pick would probably be different.


I don't think the Rams take Lynch. If they're smart they would take Earl. The rest I could easily see.

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STL: I'm taking Bradford for the same reason. While Long would make our defense better, the Rams wouldn't score more than 14 points a game with Clemens behind center.

I disagree with your thinking on this. First of all, there's no way they'd go into the season with Clemens as the starter, so they'd make a move for a QB anyway. Also, Bradford is decent, but I think he's one of those QBs who is good enough to keep you around .500, but not good enough to make the team a real contender, and too good to allow the team the high pick they need for a better QB.


Good logic, I like it.

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 Post subject: Re: You get to pick one player from each of the other div teams
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That's tough.

From AZ I was going to go Fitz. Instead I go:

Daryll Washington. Slide Wagner to the weak side and we might have the best LB corps in the league. Seriously.

STL: Chris Long. Guy is a beast. Close runner up with would be Legatron.

SF: I would go with Vernon Davis, but I'm not sure he's a good enough blocker to fit our scheme. If he could fit, that's where I would go, but if his blocking hurts us:

Iupati.


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 Post subject: Re: You get to pick one player from each of the other div teams
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What's with all the legatron love? Sure he can nail 60 yarders but he misses from >40 waaaayyyyy too much.

Az - Fitz
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