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kearly
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:02 pm |
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Also, I wouldn't expect Abrams to stick with Star Wars long. I'd say 3 movies, tops, probably 2. Disney wants to turn it into a James Bond type franchise, and as with long series like James Bond and Harry Potter, you can expect the director to change every couple of movies, even if the previous director did an awesome job.
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:35 pm |
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Maybe Disney won't be a cheap piece of crap, and will pay a good director enough money to direct 7 or 8 of 'em. Pipe dream, I suppose...
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:43 pm |
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kearly wrote: Also, I wouldn't expect Abrams to stick with Star Wars long. I'd say 3 movies, tops, probably 2. Disney wants to turn it into a James Bond type franchise, and as with long series like James Bond and Harry Potter, you can expect the director to change every couple of movies, even if the previous director did an awesome job. Abrams will move on after two movies indeed, but it won't be just because of Disney keeping the rotation fresh. Abrams has ADD and can't stay focused on any one project for long. Leaves a trail of unfinished projects in his wake ("What About Brian", "Six Degrees", "Undercovers", "Alcatraz") and his successful ones get taken on by others. And "Trek" was horribly forced writing and sheeny melodrama. I cannot fathom how so many smart media consumers on this board enjoyed that movie. It's like a body-snatchers conspiracy.
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:48 pm |
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Montana right now in this thread: 
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:52 pm |
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You, on the other hand... 
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:00 am |
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I've not even seen the Star Trek movie, nor do I know more than a tiny bit about Star Trek. Since I haven't claimed to, I'm not sure how I can have my head up there in this thread?
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MontanaHawk05
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:02 am |
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OK, fine, I'll change the victims of recto-cranial inversion to Pehawk and Kearly. 
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:04 am |
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That works! Though, I don't know how much merit there is in that accusation. I'm serious when I say I know nothing about Star Trek, lol. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt! 
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kearly
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:56 am |
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I'm not even going to argue. I don't have to. Based on what critics and audiences thought (95%, one of the highest Rotten Tomato scores of 2009, and one of the highest rated summer blockbusters ever), you might as well be Baghdad Bob on this one Brandon. 
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:13 am |
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Montana's new nickname should be Baghdad Bob, for awhile at least.
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:49 am |
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kearly wrote: I'm not even going to argue. I don't have to. Based on what critics and audiences thought (95%, one of the highest Rotten Tomato scores of 2009, and one of the highest rated summer blockbusters ever), you might as well be Baghdad Bob on this one Brandon.  All that shows is that 95% of critics don't understand what Trek is. There were plenty of critics, FWIW, who admitted as an aside that XI showed little depth or greater purpose and had a swiss cheese plot, but were apparently fine with that since it was a reboot. Curiosity, the suck of "Nemesis", and its reboot nature helped it a lot. Once XII proves just as stupidly written and it starts sinking in with people that Abrams has little on his mind besides typical popcorn action and cheap emotion, I'll bet the critical honeymoon will die down considerably. Abrams might manage to keep the box office bubble going with the whole tired "it is Khan?" shtick, though you'll probably see more critics take shots at the movie purely out of annoyance over it. If you want a more insightful review, read [url]http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090506/REVIEWS/905069997]Roger Ebert's dissenting opinion[/url]. Gives it a fair shake.
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:43 pm |
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:44 pm |
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Montanahawk05, you must realize Star Trek has the most ubercritical fans in every culture on the planet and you are telling all 999 gagillion of them that they are wrong? At this point all i can think of is that your expectations were completely unrealistic. Saying that your opinion is in the minority is a massive understatement.
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:59 pm |
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ShyCheetah wrote: Montanahawk05, you must realize Star Trek has the most ubercritical fans in every culture on the planet and you are telling all 999 gagillion of them that they are wrong? At this point all i can think of is that your expectations were completely unrealistic. Saying that your opinion is in the minority is a massive understatement.
Shy. I know my opinion is in the minority. And I don't often go "screw everyone else, they're wrong" on things. But since we're talking about something that doesn't matter much, then I feel pretty comfortable in my opinion even if it is in the minority.
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:47 am |
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Montana, you are the you're wrong guy, that's you.
I'm curious, can you rank the films? Or top 5 so we have context?
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:01 am |
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pehawk wrote: Montana, you are the you're wrong guy, that's you.
I'm curious, can you rank the films? Or top 5 so we have context? Wrath of Khan (2) First Contact (8) Undiscovered Country (6) Voyage Home (4) Search for Spock (3)
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:15 am |
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I'd go;
Kahn Abrams Galaxy Quest (unofficial) Undiscovered Country Search for Spock First Contact
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:42 am |
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Galaxy Quest was a way smarter movie than XI.
Just got done watching the "Lost" pilot, which Abrams wrote AND directed, and remembered how awesome it was on every level. So it's not like he can't do great work. He just didn't do it here.
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:17 pm |
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Well, Abrams was also assigned with reenergizing the base AND bringing in new audiences. Have to factor that in. That was accomplished. I think his 2nd one will be a lil more aligned with what we're accustom too.
I'm hoping its darker than the other ones.
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:02 pm |
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I don't think we'll know if he REALLY brought in new audiences until we see the box office returns for XII, and see how much of XI's success was just curiosity. Of course, like I said, JJ's stupid "is it Khan?" campaign will probably keep the returns inflated.
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