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 Post subject: Most Improved Seahawk - 2012
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I don't know if there is already a thread on this but given how vastly different my opinion on this player is from what it was last year I think it deserves some mention.

I was watching the Russell Wilson ROY nomination video and noticed one WR pop out numerous times and really give meaning to the YAC stat, as I believe he was one of the best.

Golden Tate, really improved and showed some value that I did not originally think he could give the team based on prior seasons.

Think someone else deserves this? Discuss.

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I would say Golden Tate as well.

Honorable mention: Anthony McCoy

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No Tater Hater here. Outside of our future HOF QB, nobody epitomized the Pete Paradigm more than Tate in 2012.

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The Big Russian was the most improved player imo


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Sherman improved from a very good CB to an All Pro.
Okung improved from an inconsistent player who flashes, to a consistent player who flashes. I'm sure health plays a big role in this.

But, my most improved player, year over year: Beast. Lynch has always been a fun player to watch, and would always fight through tackles, fall forward, and punish defenders. But over the last 18 months or so, something strange happened... and he started reading blocks. His footwork behind the LOS increased a mile. His footwork in space improved. His vision improved. Watching Lynch improve from an entertaining RB to an elite entertaining RB has been one of the most enjoyable experiences I have ever had as a Seahawks fan. No exaggeration.

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Russell Wilson is the personality, and nucleus of the NEW Seahawks, and the catylist to the why everyone seems to be elevating their game.
Knowing that RW is going to be an outstanding FHOF QB, Lynch wants to do his part in making it happen.
Tate wants to be an intregal (sp) part of the RW process, and besides, he's off the field good friends with Wilson, and they will only get better as time goes on.
Defensively?, who wouldn't want to be a part of history in the making,,It's like saying, hey RW, we got your back.


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Sid and Golden each had improved years, simply by staying healthy all season as well as by making key plays in key spots. As was said above, Sherman went from very good to perhaps the best lock down corner in the league. Unger and Okung each continued to improve on already solid resumes. I'd also add KJ Wright to the list of one of our young guys who looked better this past year.


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I do think Tate was the most improved player, but an earlier post about Marshawn Lynch was dead on. He really looked for the holes in a different way and combined that physical running with avoiding some tackles too. Some of it might be the improvement of the O-line, but he really ran like the elite back that he. Tate just did everything better, whether it was going after balls, the determination to get to the goal line or even blocking, he did it better and frankly has done it better in each year.

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Tate by far. No question.

Though I think Zach Miller might run away with it if Bevell opened up the offense sooner than he did. Miller was money in the playoffs

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Tate definitely took a huge leap towards realizing his potential. I expect even more out of him next year though and if there's no improvement it will be a huge dissapointment to me.


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Tate was the first player to come to my mind. I kind of expected it from him, but RW was an intergral part of that IMHO.

RW is disqualified for this award as he didn't play here last year. ;)

Most of Lynch's improvement is on the O-line IMHO. Sherm did well, but we kind of expected the D to excel this year.

So I go with Golden Tate.

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I'd say Sherm, he was good last year but this year he was the best corner in the league. I'd also say Tate and KJ were both very improved too.


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Good thread.

#1: Tate
#2: Okung
#3: Browner
#4: McCoy
#5: Miller
#6: Giacomini
#7: Wright

Honorable mention: Frank Omiyale (wasn't with Seattle last season but vastly improved under Cable).

Cool thing is, how many Seahawks regressed this year? Not many.


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Max Unger.

He was a solid-average center in 2011 with below average run blocking grades from Pro Football Focus. This season his run blocking grades shot through the roof, he was graded one of the top 3 centers in the league overall by PFF, and he was elected a Pro Bowl starter.


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Well, i'm going out and saying B Wagner, he showed flashes of greatness, early in the year, some runs were eating him up, but seemed to fix the problem as the year went on. A rookie middle LB, thrown into calling plays, down right amazing.

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NorthDallas40oz wrote:
Max Unger.

He was a solid-average center in 2011 with below average run blocking grades from Pro Football Focus. This season his run blocking grades shot through the roof, he was graded one of the top 3 centers in the league overall by PFF, and he was elected a Pro Bowl starter.


Unger was bad in the first half of 2011 and stellar in the 2nd half of 2011. Unger's improvement came from within the 2011 season.


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 Post subject: Re: Most Improved Seahawk - 2012
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I wouldn't say "most improved", but how about Moffit towards the end of the year?

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Tate definitely took a huge leap towards realizing his potential. I expect even more out of him next year though and if there's no improvement it will be a huge dissapointment to me.


Better route running should be his focus. As shifty and quick as he is, we could have another Engram, only more elusive and better at catching jump balls.


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Tate has been my favorite player in all of sports since his sophomore season so I'm trying not to be biased, but if we're not counting in-season improvement (RW3) I think Tate is the one. I think it started clicking late last season that he could do it, and then from the start of this year he showed that he would do it. I still think he's underutilized and an elite talent so I'm hoping he continues to trend way upward, but either way I think he did a great job this season capitalizing on the progress he made a year ago.


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Okung. Hurt prior years and made a lot of mental errors. He could be beaten by fast edge rushers. This year one of the best in the league


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Max Unger.

He was a solid-average center in 2011 with below average run blocking grades from Pro Football Focus. This season his run blocking grades shot through the roof, he was graded one of the top 3 centers in the league overall by PFF, and he was elected a Pro Bowl starter.


First player that came to mind.

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The Big Russian was the most improved player imo


He graded out as one of the worst tackles. Like really really bad

My vote would be Tate or Unger. Sherman was good last year but really made the jump to elite this season.

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NorthDallas40oz wrote:
Max Unger.

He was a solid-average center in 2011 with below average run blocking grades from Pro Football Focus. This season his run blocking grades shot through the roof, he was graded one of the top 3 centers in the league overall by PFF, and he was elected a Pro Bowl starter.


THIS

We had concerns Unger was a draft bust, he was All-Pro this year and didn't allow a single sack.


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Okoung played great this year. Maybe not most improved per se, but 76 made a huge impact this year.

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I'd say it's a 3 way tie between Tate, Sherman and Browner.

You can see improvement from Sherm and Browner throughout last year, but Sherman is a completely different player this year than last year. He's literally in a different league.

Browner also improved last year. He had better pass defensed and INT stats last year, but that is because QBs threw at him a lot. This year, he literally just erased guys. He Asumogha'd them. The WRs would be so far off of their routes or timing that QBs didn't even attempt to go that way, and when they did, Browner had tight coverage.

Tate's improvement was obvious.

The other 2 guys that improved most from start to finish of the year: Wilson and Wagner. Those guys just had a steady climb of progression that was amazing.


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NorthDallas40oz wrote:
Max Unger.

He was a solid-average center in 2011 with below average run blocking grades from Pro Football Focus. This season his run blocking grades shot through the roof, he was graded one of the top 3 centers in the league overall by PFF, and he was elected a Pro Bowl starter.


THIS

We had concerns Unger was a draft bust, he was All-Pro this year and didn't allow a single sack.

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Axx wrote:
The Big Russian was the most improved player imo


He graded out as one of the worst tackles. Like really really bad

My vote would be Tate or Unger. Sherman was good last year but really made the jump to elite this season.


His first half of the season was pretty bad but the 2nd half he became a really good run blocker. His pass blocking is pretty good, he man handled Aldon Smith but Jake Long owns Giacomini.


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