Arians named Coach of the Year
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drdiags
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If Pagano was suspended for some Bountygate type of deal, yes Arians wins. If Pagano was in a car accident or quit to coach a college team, Arians wins.
If Arians had been HC from the beginning, he wins. No matter what the excuses or flopping folks claim the Colts did, the voters would say he took a team from a 1st pick in the draft to a playoff game and 11 win season.
Pete gets kudos for making a tough call with Wilson and a 4 game upswing. He could have won and not been disputed. But so should Arians. One shouldn't minimize the guy just because another worthy candidate lost.
If Arians had been HC from the beginning, he wins. No matter what the excuses or flopping folks claim the Colts did, the voters would say he took a team from a 1st pick in the draft to a playoff game and 11 win season.
Pete gets kudos for making a tough call with Wilson and a 4 game upswing. He could have won and not been disputed. But so should Arians. One shouldn't minimize the guy just because another worthy candidate lost.
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"Arians, recently hired by #Cardinals, got 36.5 votes. Pagano got 5.5. #Seahawks Carroll got 5. #Vikings Frazier got 3. #NFL"
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Sorry all you trying to ram the Arians band wagon on this thread. I am sorry I cant get on it. Yes the media has enhanced his roll and the Cancer angle has had an effect. To say it hasent says you dont think for your self and only follow what the main stream media spoon feeds you.
No I am not a troll I just dont believe he was the coach of the year. He did not coach all the games. He had close to the easiest schedule in the league. He had the suppossed greatest QB ever to come out of college.
Also too many people are putting stock in the 2 and 14 season last year. That was not the team. That was the suck for luck team that purposly used a QB that is not even 5th string in college and did some bizarre things to ensure they losts games.
PC has to be considered in the whole picture. Not just wins and losses but his building of the team. Yes I said HIS building of the team. JS is great but he is only part of the team not the guy who built the team. Add that the decisions to start RW and RW as rookies and the schedule he had to deal with there is NO way Arians did for his team what PC did for the Hawks.
Shit I hate the national media and thier politicaly correct, socialist and heart felt story line agendas.
No I am not a troll I just dont believe he was the coach of the year. He did not coach all the games. He had close to the easiest schedule in the league. He had the suppossed greatest QB ever to come out of college.
Also too many people are putting stock in the 2 and 14 season last year. That was not the team. That was the suck for luck team that purposly used a QB that is not even 5th string in college and did some bizarre things to ensure they losts games.
PC has to be considered in the whole picture. Not just wins and losses but his building of the team. Yes I said HIS building of the team. JS is great but he is only part of the team not the guy who built the team. Add that the decisions to start RW and RW as rookies and the schedule he had to deal with there is NO way Arians did for his team what PC did for the Hawks.
Shit I hate the national media and thier politicaly correct, socialist and heart felt story line agendas.
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PC at been at the helm for three years - his success this year - in 2012/13 was entirely expected.
Arians was a co-ordinator who took over a team that he barely knew and won games. Although he had some favourable circumstances - the unfavourable curcumstances clearly outweighed them.
Imagine Jeremy Bates coached us to an 11-5 record in his first year here - even with a favourable schedule.
Arians was a co-ordinator who took over a team that he barely knew and won games. Although he had some favourable circumstances - the unfavourable curcumstances clearly outweighed them.
Imagine Jeremy Bates coached us to an 11-5 record in his first year here - even with a favourable schedule.
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razgriz737":1qcfzir2 said:
How in the heck does Pagano get any votes at all? Now that is worth scratching your head over. Yes, that is based totally on emotion and is not very reasonable.
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Everyone putting the cancer sympathy tag on Arians misfired. Pagano soaked up that crowd. And besides, these awards are voted on by the media. They should rename these awards "best rookie story of the year or best coaching story of the year." Not a ton of difference between these awards and winning an ESPY.
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kearly":uwqb11bd said:
If it was best story, Wilson would have won.
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Axx":zgob3x6s said:
Stop trolling please
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7 of 8 teams passed on Arians for their head coaching vacancies. Arizona hired him after their #1 choice went to KC, their #2 choice went to SD and Bevell backed out of consideration.
Really shows you what those around the league really thought of his accomplishments this year. I respect what he did, but there was very little substance to it. It was a good media story. That's it.
Really shows you what those around the league really thought of his accomplishments this year. I respect what he did, but there was very little substance to it. It was a good media story. That's it.
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Tech Worlds":1fy9djtc said:
how does wilson not have the best story? being a short 3rd rounder projected to be a career back up.
RG3 had a overall better year than Wilson, Wilson's final games were much better though.
But its Rookie of the year, not Rookie of the post-season.
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Axx":3v1jsa2v said:
Funny how you continue to try to find anything remotely negative about Wilson, Mr. Troll. R U a closet 'Flynnatic?' How 'bout getting back on topic.
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rainger":1r6vbb9j said:
Could you explain to me please how the coaching staff, executives and half the players on the team agreed to tanking games considering they would be losing their jobs at the end of the season?
If they had been convinced by the owner to do such things with promises of jobs the next year, don't you think they would have went to the media after being let go?
The only way that can even make remote sense is that you might believe that Manning went to the owner before anyone on the staff and told him that he was going to need surgery and the owner convinced him to not tell anyone else until after the draft happened in April so he could have the surgery in late May.
As far as going with Painter, he was on the roster for two years prior to the Manning injury, so he should have been able to run the very complicated offense. There was no way they could bring in someone who didn't know that ridiculously complicated system and be able to succeed.
