Register    Login    Forum    Search    FAQ    Contact Us  Your donations are greatly appreciated! Donate

Board index » THE NET NATION LOUNGE » [ THE NET LOUNGE ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 159 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ... 8  Next
 
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:17 am 
NET Veteran
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:40 am
Posts: 1713
Why is Abrams getting love or hate on the plot of Star Trek? He didn't write it, he directed it. JJ Abrams comes off as a cool nerd and uses fanboy attention on his projects. He will treat Star Wars with more love than Lucas did with his monstrosities.

Super 8 wasn't a great movie, but it FELT like an old school Spielberg movie, well mostly. And that was its intended goal. It wasn't as good as ET or Close Encounters, but it was a hell of a lot better than AI. The same attention will be paid to Star Wars, it will feel a lot more like the original movies.

If the plot sucks, that's on the writer.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:19 am 
* NET Philistine *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri May 01, 2009 8:02 am
Posts: 10373
Location: Portland, OR
Unfortunately, it's too late to cast the original trio but damn what I would give to see them adapt Timothy Zahn's Heir to the Empire trilogy.

Edit: Fixed a typo.

_________________
My single greatest contribution to the board: "42-13" (formerly 24-14)


Last edited by Sarlacc83 on Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:24 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:23 am 
NET Veteran
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:07 pm
Posts: 1150
Sarlacc83 wrote:
Unfortunately, it's too late to cast the original trio but damn what I would give to see them adapt the Timothy Zahn;s Heir to the Empire trilogy.


Seconded.

_________________
Image


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:32 am 
* NET Expertise Expert *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri May 01, 2009 8:39 am
Posts: 14275
Location: Kirkland, WA
I just hope they avoid the abortion that is the 20-books-too-long Yuuzhan Vong series. Most of those were utter crap and boring as hell. Pretty much anything by Zahn is a win, though.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:31 am 
* 17Power Blogger *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri May 01, 2009 8:46 am
Posts: 9708
12evanf wrote:
Why is Abrams getting love or hate on the plot of Star Trek? He didn't write it, he directed it.


Because he works with too many hack writers and brings them onto his projects.

Quote:
He will treat Star Wars with more love than Lucas did with his monstrosities.


Hilarious how much goodwill Abrams gets by NOT being the last guy.

_________________
GO HAWKS!!!

Visit my Seahawks blog at 17power.blogspot.com!

Follow me on Twitter at @17power


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:48 am 
NET Veteran
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:40 am
Posts: 1713
MontanaHawk05 wrote:
Because he works with too many hack writers and brings them onto his projects.

The writer was chosen before the director for this project.

MontanaHawk05 wrote:
Hilarious how much goodwill Abrams gets by NOT being the last guy.

I liked Abrams from the announcement of the Disney buy. You can go look it up (I know you're a big fan of that).

Star Trek nerds have always been way more particular than Star Wars nerds. I don't think Abrams was a good fit for Star Trek, he's too raw and focuses more on emotions and action than the tech-aspect. Star Wars is perfect for him.

George Lucas focused on CGI and effects and butchered his own masterpiece. Any director could raise that bar.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:54 am 
* NET Expertise Expert *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri May 01, 2009 8:39 am
Posts: 14275
Location: Kirkland, WA
MontanaHawk05 wrote:
Hilarious how much goodwill Abrams gets by NOT being the last guy.


This is normally a poor argument, but in this case, I'd say it's somewhat fair and justified. A tremendous number of random pieces of luck and happenstance came together to make the original Star Wars trilogy what it was, and George Lucas not having control over most of it was critically important. The best thing he ever did for his franchise was to sell it. I'll be very curious to see what all Disney does with it.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:22 pm 
* 17Power Blogger *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri May 01, 2009 8:46 am
Posts: 9708
12evanf wrote:
Star Trek nerds have always been way more particular than Star Wars nerds. I don't think Abrams was a good fit for Star Trek, he's too raw and focuses more on emotions and action than the tech-aspect. Star Wars is perfect for him.


I could care less about tech. Everyone thinks the Abrams detractors are just upset about the tech stuff. The script for that movie was terrible, just plain poorly written and kept pulling me out of the movie with "why did that just happen?" questions that even ordinary people would ask. And Abrams made some choices that made little sense and distracted from things, turning it from a "this is how the future could really be" movie of ideas into just another slick, superficial "don't think too hard" popcorn movie. That's a loss that a lot of Trekkies were frustrated with.

RolandDeschain wrote:
MontanaHawk05 wrote:
Hilarious how much goodwill Abrams gets by NOT being the last guy.


This is normally a poor argument, but in this case, I'd say it's somewhat fair and justified. A tremendous number of random pieces of luck and happenstance came together to make the original Star Wars trilogy what it was, and George Lucas not having control over most of it was critically important. The best thing he ever did for his franchise was to sell it. I'll be very curious to see what all Disney does with it.


I do believe Lucas originally had Han Solo looking more like Greedo and C3PO being an alien garbage salesman or some ridiculous stuff. I loved seeing Lawrence Kasdan hired to help with Episode VII. I think Abrams will be a good fit for Star Wars.

_________________
GO HAWKS!!!

Visit my Seahawks blog at 17power.blogspot.com!

Follow me on Twitter at @17power


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:38 pm 
* NET Staff Alumni *
* NET Staff Alumni *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2007 5:38 pm
Posts: 3684
Location: Hagerstown, MD
RolandDeschain wrote:
I just hope they avoid the abortion that is the 20-books-too-long Yuuzhan Vong series. Most of those were utter crap and boring as hell. Pretty much anything by Zahn is a win, though.

They've already said the movies will be an original story and won't be based on any of the existing EU works.

_________________
Image
You are absolutely entitled to state your opinion whenever you wish, and I am absolutely entitled to point out the stupidity of that opinion with the same frequency.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:09 pm 
* NET Expertise Expert *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri May 01, 2009 8:39 am
Posts: 14275
Location: Kirkland, WA
I know, Jay; I was just referring to future stuff down the line.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:04 pm 
*TOP 5 SUPPORTER*
*TOP 5 SUPPORTER*
Offline

Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:41 pm
Posts: 5049
My deepest fear about this choice is that "JJ" secretly stands for Jar Jar...

_________________
“If somebody thinks they're a hedgehog, presumably you just give them a mirror and a few pictures of hedgehogs and tell them to sort it out for themselves.”


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:20 pm 
* NET Expertise Expert *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri May 01, 2009 8:39 am
Posts: 14275
Location: Kirkland, WA
Vetamur wrote:
My deepest fear about this choice is that "JJ" secretly stands for Jar Jar...


Lol! Abrams would get poisoned in his sleep.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
 Post Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:08 am 
* NET Philistine *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri May 01, 2009 8:02 am
Posts: 10373
Location: Portland, OR
Vetamur wrote:
My deepest fear about this choice is that "JJ" secretly stands for Jar Jar...


I dunno, I'd pay good money to go and just watch the audience's reaction to that. Could be the greatest con job in the history of movies.

_________________
My single greatest contribution to the board: "42-13" (formerly 24-14)


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
 Post Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:18 am 
* NET Starfish *
Offline

Joined: Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:29 am
Posts: 8791
Location: Vaes Dothrak
Sarlacc83 wrote:
Unfortunately, it's too late to cast the original trio but damn what I would give to see them adapt Timothy Zahn's Heir to the Empire trilogy.

Edit: Fixed a typo.


The Heir to the Empire trilogy IS Episode 7 8 and 9 to me. I get that it's impossible now, and that really sucks, but to me that was the next inevitable part of the story presented in Lucas' original three.

_________________
FrankerZ FrankerZ FrankerZ FrankerZ FrankerZ FrankerZ FrankerZ FrankerZ


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
 Post Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:42 am 
* Report Button *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:08 pm
Posts: 6722
Read a lil blurb where Terance Stamp (peaches body and appearence double) ripped Lucas for his direction in Star Wars. No one worked opposite Natalie - instead she was a spot on a greenscreen.

Lucas sucks.

_________________
@ryanadamdavis


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
 Post Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:46 am 
* NET Starfish *
Offline

Joined: Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:29 am
Posts: 8791
Location: Vaes Dothrak
pehawk wrote:
Read a lil blurb where Terance Stamp (peaches body and appearence double) ripped Lucas for his direction in Star Wars. No one worked opposite Natalie - instead she was a spot on a greenscreen.

Lucas sucks.


It's true! i look a lot like Zod!!

_________________
FrankerZ FrankerZ FrankerZ FrankerZ FrankerZ FrankerZ FrankerZ FrankerZ


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
 Post Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:07 am 
* NET Expertise Expert *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri May 01, 2009 8:39 am
Posts: 14275
Location: Kirkland, WA
pehawk wrote:
instead she was a spot on a greenscreen.

Lucas sucks.


Who WASN'T a spot on a green screen? Pretty much the entire newer trilogy was filmed that way, and the fact that it made even actors we KNOW are good actors, like Liam Neeson, act poorly...Tells you a lot about depending on your entire cast sitting inside in front of a green screen.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
 Post Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:09 am 
* NET Philistine *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri May 01, 2009 8:02 am
Posts: 10373
Location: Portland, OR
pehawk wrote:
Read a lil blurb where Terance Stamp (peaches body and appearence double) ripped Lucas for his direction in Star Wars. No one worked opposite Natalie - instead she was a spot on a greenscreen.

Lucas sucks.


Watch the Red Letter Media reviews of the prequels. They pretty thoroughly torch George Lucas for sitting behind monitors for pretty much the entire shoot while sometimes standing up to hand out basic directions before returning to his seat.

_________________
My single greatest contribution to the board: "42-13" (formerly 24-14)


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
 Post Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:16 pm 
* 17Power Blogger *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri May 01, 2009 8:46 am
Posts: 9708
He's never been an "actor's director". Gave minimal guidance in Ep 4. Ep 5 was directed by a guy with a much better relationship with performers. Watching Portman in later movies left me stunned how little Lucas got out of her in the prequels.

_________________
GO HAWKS!!!

Visit my Seahawks blog at 17power.blogspot.com!

Follow me on Twitter at @17power


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?
 Post Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:49 pm 
* Mr Random Thought *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:44 am
Posts: 7250
I am a huge fan of Abrams even if I am not always a fan of his movies (Star Trek was awesome though- Montana you are on crack).

I don't know if he fits Star Wars per se. I think he'd be perfect for Indiana Jones but that series can't survive without Harrison Ford. The original Star Wars films always had a campy charm to it, and all 3 of the originals contained "alien horror" elements that helped give the universe a much more savage feel. In that sense, I think Star Wars would probably be more suited to someone like Peter Jackson or Sam Raimi who have experience with top end special effects and horror/monster genre stuff- and both even have a bit of the same horror-cheesiness that Lucas had before he started to suck. Like Jackson and Raimi, Abrams has some horror/monster film background which will go well with re-introducing the series to the weird but awesome bestiary of the original trilogy.

Bottom line, I don't think Disney could have done much better than Abrams. And if Abrams says no, and options 2,3,4, and 5 all say no, you might be down to guys like Michael Bay, or an unproven director that could prove an even bigger disaster. We all thought that Star Wars would become a joke. Maybe it still will. But at least Abrams gives us a solar flare of hope.

_________________
Image
"I believe there’s merit to the idea that once something in life becomes conventional, it’s no longer the safest path to success." -Matt Waldman
"If everyone's thinking alike, no one's thinking." -Bill Walsh


Top 
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 159 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ... 8  Next

Board index » THE NET NATION LOUNGE » [ THE NET LOUNGE ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Riley12, SmokinHawk and 15 guests

 
 

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Seahawks.NET is an independent fan site and not associated with the Seattle Seahawks or the NFL (National Football League).
All content within this Seahawks fan page is provided by, and for, Seattle Seahawks fans. Copyright © Seahawks.NET.