I went to Red Mill for the first time last night and was disappointed in the food. Heard several of my friends call it the best burger in town and I just don't agree. However, the onion rings were delicious.

What are other notable Seattle establishments that you find 'overrated' or one that lives up to it's hype [Beth's]?

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Dick's is pretty overrated. There's a burger joint in Tacoma called "Burger Ranch" that is just as good imo.

The Burger Bar in Tacoma is also delicious. I also have a soft spot for Frisko Freeze.

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Red Mill's onion rings are meh, and their burgers are awesome. You've got it backwards.

I'm hard to please as far as a truly outstanding burger goes. I've been around the world and found some pretty delicious offerings. My top three, so far, are:

Helen's Corral Drive-In, Gardiner, MT - 1/2 lb. buffalo burger with traditional fixings, huge homestyle potato slices and a pickle slice. Comes with a personal greeting. Haven't been there in years, but Helen never forgets a customer.

Jeff's Pirate Cove, Talofofo Falls, Guam - 1/2 lb. fresh fish burger with the works. A true, walk-in-from-the-beach, beach bar. The thing that really makes this burger is that you catch your own fish for them to put into the burger.

Kua Aina Burger, Haliewa, HI - three different 1/2 lb. specialties to choose from: avocado, pineapple, or ortega chili burger. A real sand-on-the-floor surfer joint, just across the road from the ocean.

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Burger Bar? Is that that place downtown? And I'm embarrassed to say this...but I've lived in Tacoma for 26 years and have NEVER had Frisko Freeze. Not even when I went to Stadium for a year.

Best burger I've ever had traveling the US was Effy's in Lewiston, Id. Not sure if its even still there. Been to the place Sailor mentioned in Montana and its really good but not as good as the one in Fall City.

Next best place is take the Preston/Fall City exit off I-90 follow it into Preston or Fall City which ever it is and there is a burger place there that is beyond compare, and their fries are great also.

You can also get there by taking the back way out of Redmond, that's how we found it. One of the daughters used to live in one of those housing developments on a hill off that road and we took that route to I-90 heading home.

Hate like hell to say this but McDonald's has really good fries.

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Daniel's Broiler on Lake Union is overrated. Pretentious staff, underwhelming steaks for the price point. We won't be back. The Melrose Grill in Renton and Jak's in Issaquah has much superior steaks and food at a fair price.

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Agreed. For the kind of scratch one spends at Daniel's Broiler, that money is much better spent at The Metropolitan Grill.

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That place in Preston the one where the sign says "Burgers and Teriyaki"? I've always shied away from it because either they are good at burgers or teriyaki, not both.

5 Guys is overrated and not a big fan of Jimmy Johns.

Daniels was pricey as hell but I enjoyed the service fine. Jaks in west seattle is as good but the experience isnt the same but the again neither is the coin you drop. Ruths Chris is about the middle.

Dicks is waaaaaaay over rated. Even more disappointing is when I found out the werent affiliated with Dicks in Spokane.

Red Mill was a good burger if we are talking burger joint burgers. I hear Burger Master is better. If we are talking dit down restraunt burgers there are a number of places I prefer. Buckleys probably tops that list.

Pizza I have found are pretty much all over rated.

Absolutely. I worked at the Met when I was in college. All the NFL/MLB/NBA players used to eat there and it was really hard not to ask for their signatures. Food is incredible, even though I spent years around the food.

I think El Guacho lives up to it's name and price as well.

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The Huskies sports programs.

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The bun was ok, the vegetables seemed fresh, the patty was just a boring ol patty. They cooked the bacon well though. I don't know if it was the onion rings or the ranch sauce which was delicious.

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Metro yes. Gaucho downtown was terrible and service as bad.

Had the company holiday party at El Gaucho, food was perfect. Open bar and all that so can't speak for the service or pricing.

Another overrated place is Broiler Bay in downtown Bellevue. I work a couple blocks from there, everyone raved about it, went there once and was not pleased.

Sorry to say I don't even remember the name of the place. If you're going east from Redmond, you turn right towards I-90 and its in the first block on the right/west side of the street. Has a drive through and doesn't seat many.

The wife was sick and we decided to head for home sunday morning and missed a Seahawks game. Knew we had to eat something as there aren't many choices there until you get to Ellensburg. Boy what a surprise the food quality was.

Stopped there going the other way a couple of months later and it was just as good the second time.

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Ruths Chris was another terrible experience (at least the one at Bell Square)...Steak so charbroiled all we could taste was carcinogens.

For me, the best steaks regionally that I've experienced are in this order: The Met, The Melrose Grill (Renton) and Jak's (Issaquah).

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Used to stop at a mom and pops burger joint called Zeke's a loooooong time ago. All I rememer is the place was on one of the mountain passes (maybe highway 2?). Made their fries on the spot from fresh spuds...mmmmm!

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Did you not get a burger that has their signature sauce on it? They have a kind of mayo-whip-something house sauce that is on most of their burgers that is amazing, and what really makes the burgers there.

As far as the people saying Daniel's isn't worth the money...Yeah right. I've been to probably 10 or so more expensive steakhouses, and maybe two were as good. Their steaks aren't even all that expensive, ($45-$60 for most of them) in the scheme of steakhouses. (Anybody calling something like Outback a steakhouse needs to shut it, that's like saying McDonald's is gourmet.) I've been to Daniel's probably 15-ish times and the service has always been above reproach, and never pretentious. It's definitely a service based upon very fine dining, though; and I've been there with a couple of different people that felt it was pretentious or snobby afterwards, but that had to do with their inexperience in true fine dining atmospheres and not yet being comfortable with it. It was in the eye of the beholder, in other words; and I suspect that may be the case with others that feel Daniel's has pretentious service, but that's just a guess..

Ruth's Chris, on the other hand, claims high-end steaks by smothering them in butter. Only been there once, but if I want an average cut of beef smothered in butter for flavor, I can do that in a skillet on my stove with a short trip to Safeway. That's how it was the one time I was there, anyways.