It would probably be one of these 3 options:
Sylvester Williams
Kawaan Short
Brandon Williams
Just curious, if John Schneider had you on speed dial and asked for your opinion, whom would you recommend of those 3?
theENGLISHseahawk wrote:I'm really not buying the Brandon Williams round one talk at all, especially to the Seahawks. I'm not sure what round I'd take him but it wouldn't be early.
Out of that three Short is the best option for what they need. I'm not totally ready to completely rule out one of the others falling into a position where Seattle can make a small move up the board. Richardson/Floyd/Short the guys to target for me.
theENGLISHseahawk wrote:The thing is, this is a guy none of us have really watched. I'd love to know how much tape Rang and Jeremiah have watched and while I appreciate the Senior Bowl work-outs, they can be as misleading as they are helpful.
theENGLISHseahawk wrote:Just to prove how difficult it is to judge these work outs, this was Tony Pauline's Tuesday report of Brandon Williams at the Senior Bowl: "Has NFL type size and shows a good degree of lower body strength but was easily handled and really needs to elevate his play here."
ivotuk wrote:So personally, I think he will last until the 3rd round based on small school status and because of Poe,who only managed to accumulate 38 tackles, 0 sacks, and 0 forced fumbles.
kearly wrote:My initial impression was negative as well, but when I went back and watched I noticed how uncomfortable he made the offensive line when he had that quick first step. He was getting into the backfield pretty often too. Thing about DTs, it's one of those positions where skill can be trumped by physical ability. I think Carroll and Quinn seem to favor those kinds of young players. Red Bryant, Bruce Irvin, and Greg Scruggs were all guys that had more physical ability than skill.
I think that is why they were seen interviewing Sylvester Williams, because he's a guy with a ton of physical ability as well (and in my opinion, really needs to work on his game). I think there is a good chance that Seattle would be happy drafting any of the 3 of them. Hopefully that means they consider DT in round 2 instead.
theENGLISHseahawk wrote:Jordan Hill at Penn State. Has as good a chance as anyone to be the 'Geno Atkins' of this draft class.
kearly wrote:Red Bryant, Bruce Irvin, and Greg Scruggs were all guys that had more physical ability than skill.
SDHawk wrote:Anyone else see Short being a solid 5-tech?
Trade Matt Flynn and a 2nd rounder to move up the 1st to take Sheldon Richardson, then use our own 1st on Kawann Short.
McGruff wrote:SDHawk wrote:Anyone else see Short being a solid 5-tech?
Trade Matt Flynn and a 2nd rounder to move up the 1st to take Sheldon Richardson, then use our own 1st on Kawann Short.
We already have one of the leagues best 5 techDE's.
McGruff wrote:SDHawk wrote:Anyone else see Short being a solid 5-tech?
Trade Matt Flynn and a 2nd rounder to move up the 1st to take Sheldon Richardson, then use our own 1st on Kawann Short.
We already have one of the leagues best 5 techDE's.
theENGLISHseahawk wrote:We'll have to agree to disagree on the tape, but I still don't see any chance what so ever of him being Seattle's pick in round one. They've stressed 'pass rush' as the greatest need. Nothing I've seen so far has said this guy is going to be a great pass rusher. Effective nose tackle, perhaps. Short is on another level as a pass rusher it's not even close. Sly Williams is more of a one technique IMO, but he has a swim move for the ages. Brandon Williams is just a big dude.
If his athleticism is as good as people say, he'll show it at the combine and he could be a relatively high pick (still don't think R1). The Seahawks need someone who can get off a block and penetrate. I didn't see any of that during the Senior Bowl game (he was a complete non-factor) and I didn't see it against Lincoln college or whoever he was playing in that video. He has to dominate Lincoln college for me to get even remotely excited, and he didn't dominate them.
On the other hand, the Seahawks can feel very comfortable if they're at #25 and Kawann Short is the only DT left worthy of a pick in R1. He is far better than I initially presumed and is just what this team needs. Age bothers me (24 -- old like irvin) but he is constantly making splash plays. Another guy to watch - Jordan Hill at Penn State. Has as good a chance as anyone to be the 'Geno Atkins' of this draft class.
MontanaHawk05 wrote:kearly wrote:Red Bryant, Bruce Irvin, and Greg Scruggs were all guys that had more physical ability than skill.
The current state of the D-line doesn't really endorse such a strategy. We wouldn't be here talking about first-round DT's if it did.
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