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 Post subject: Is Stephen Williams the replacement for Mike Williams?
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John Schneider recently signed Stephen Williams to a two-year $1.2 million futures contract worth $555,000 in 2013 and $645,000 in 2014. The 6'5 Williams has large soft hands, catches the ball away from his chest, and grabs passes in traffic. He ran the 40 in 4.50 seconds. He’s a touchdown maker with the ability to use his body as a shield and high point the ball. However, he lacks the ability to gain separation from defenders, lacks top-end speed and does not stretch the field. He also does not get many yards after the catch.

Williams is a gifted athletic that flashes talent on film, but the Cardinals could find a niche for him on their team. The Seahawks are the perfect fit for this young man – look at how we highlighted the strengths of Mike Williams and minimized his weaknesses.

What do you think about this signing?

Link: Who Is Stephen Williams?

Link: A New Receiver - Seattle Times


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 Post subject: Re: Is Stephen Williams the replacement for Mike Williams?
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I think you are making a bigger deal out a guy the Cardinals cut December 14 than is really warranted.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Stephen Williams the replacement for Mike Williams?
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Thanks for the insight and you maybe right. The fact that Danny O'Neil wrote a whole article about the kid I think at least warrants a discussion about him.


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 Post subject: Re: Is Stephen Williams the replacement for Mike Williams?
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I think you are making a bigger deal out a guy the Cardinals cut December 14 than is really warranted.

Theres your problem. Wilson, meet Williams. I think it will work.


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 Post subject: Re: Is Stephen Williams the replacement for Mike Williams?
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Sounds like he could be a fit, all be it a project. But our WR corps is not such a mess that we don't have time to coach a kid like this up and ease him into the roster. Heck, we gave Tate 3 years (I was behind that BTW) to develop and look how he turned out this year. If this guy takes off faster, great.

As was pointed out above, our QB situation is much better than Arizona's has been the past few years. Any WR will have a better chance to succeed with a good QB throwing to him. This is the time of year when they start coming out of the woodwork, young guys looking for roster spots and a chance at the big show. Bring 'em on.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Stephen Williams the replacement for Mike Williams?
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You never know. They signed Doug Baldwin as a rookie FA and all he did in his rookie year was lead the team in recptions and yards.

You never know...but I still hope they draft a couple of WRs.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Stephen Williams the replacement for Mike Williams?
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I don't know why anybody would downplay a signing like this with the success this FO has had!

John Schnider was quoted as saying "We got him" that is enough for me to be pumped!

Here is Williams combine workout from 2010

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0 ... n-Williams

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 Post subject: Re: Is Stephen Williams the replacement for Mike Williams?
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Will he have the sense of humor that BMW had?

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You know the saying, One man's trash is another man's treasure.

They found McQuisten and Giacomini and a similar way, adding them late in the season. That worked out pretty well.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Stephen Williams the replacement for Mike Williams?
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Does seem as though John Schneider has been circling the carcass for awhile. The praise this guy was getting from the Cardinals veterans has you wondering as well as the interest Seattle has had for him since 2010. I didn't think much of the Browner signing at the time and he turned out to fill a vital role with the team. I would imagine Mr Williams has a chance to make the squad as I am not sure Obo or Martin will.

The team has been trying to identify a big body receiver to complement the WR corp but Edwards and TO weren't the answer. Evan Moore as a #3 TE couldn't leverage his opportunity either. Only 5 more months before we start to find out.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Stephen Williams the replacement for Mike Williams?
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All I need to know is does JS and /or PC want him? If he is here they do. That's all I need.

Do they get it right all the time? No they don't but they get it right far more than anyone that I know of and that is the only criteria I go by now.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Stephen Williams the replacement for Mike Williams?
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What happened too Rocardo Locette?

Dont get too excited about players that have on the surface seam like good players but just dont have the pedigree or track record to make it in the NFL.

My neighbor is 6'5", big dude, looks like he can run but I am not under any misconceptions that he could get the job done at the NFL level.

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What happened too Rocardo Locette?


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 Post subject: Re: Is Stephen Williams the replacement for Mike Williams?
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Pstark3 wrote:
Scottemojo wrote:
I think you are making a bigger deal out a guy the Cardinals cut December 14 than is really warranted.

Theres your problem. Wilson, meet Williams. I think it will work.


For comparison, which player would you rather us sign?

Player A: 71 rec, 798 yards, 4 TDs
Player B: 85 rec, 1,064 yards, 13 TDs

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 Post subject: Re: Is Stephen Williams the replacement for Mike Williams?
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Pstark3 wrote:
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I think you are making a bigger deal out a guy the Cardinals cut December 14 than is really warranted.

Theres your problem. Wilson, meet Williams. I think it will work.


For comparison, which player would you rather us sign?

Player A: 71 rec, 798 yards, 4 TDs
Player B: 85 rec, 1,064 yards, 13 TDs

Bit of a trick question......in our offensive scheme 85/1000/13 is just about impossible due to lack of opportunity.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Stephen Williams the replacement for Mike Williams?
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May be a bit of a trick question, but it's still fairly valid. The comparison was Eric Decker catching passes from Peyton Manning vs. Larry Fitzgerald catching passes from Sclub-of-the-Month-Quarterback. I think that makes a difference, especially when one starts making suppositions of stats if the receivers were reversed.

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Pstark3 wrote:
Scottemojo wrote:
I think you are making a bigger deal out a guy the Cardinals cut December 14 than is really warranted.

Theres your problem. Wilson, meet Williams. I think it will work.


For comparison, which player would you rather us sign?

Player A: 71 rec, 798 yards, 4 TDs
Player B: 85 rec, 1,064 yards, 13 TDs

Well, if Player B
I would rather have Fitz over Decker. Evan Moore was as big as Jimmy Graham, bit I would rather have the one who can clap without missing.

This Williams dude didn't get cut because Ryan Lindley sucks. Just like Evan Moore had one catch even though Wilson is awesome. This notion that great QBs can make d listers into good receivers has got to go.

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Don't get me wrong, I'm all for continuing the search for another big WR that can catch and run. If this kid pans out, great. He's not costing much per the post above, so nothing ventured nothing gained. I expect a draft pick or two to go to this search this year anyway. And I know, the QB matters, a lot. It is not a reach that this guy would do better here just because of the better QB play than he got in AZ. I agree with that premise.

Meanwhile, our WR corps is not that bad off, as I said above. He'll have a challenge to win a roster spot, as Pete will ensure. Apparently we've been following him and waiting for the opportunity to sign him. Cool, let's get it on.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Stephen Williams the replacement for Mike Williams?
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These are the flyers you hope can come through....would solve so many WR issues if he did!

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It's all just a part of that bottom 1/3 roster churn that pete & john execute so well. If he's cream he'll rise to the top and if he's not; he'll get dumped with the rest of the crap and some new prospects will get poured in to go through the churn.

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