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 Post subject: Kam, Seahawk Value?
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I love Kam, Love what he brings, well I love what he used to bring.
He is a intimidater, that is what he brings, but since the 49ers game for what ever reason, he hasn't intimidated or covered.
For Kam to succeed as a Seahawk he has to provide one of these elements.

What I wonder is would it be a loss if the Hawks were without him?
Would we be better suited with a SS that can actually cover a TE or RB coming out of the backfield?

I have very mixed emotions, cause I've seen what he can do, but I don't know anymore.
Has the injury, that I don't even know what is affected him?


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He was injured, had a foot or leg problem and was trying to play through it, one of Petes pressers said he had to have a little surgery or something.

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Would we be better suited with a SS that can actually cover a TE or RB coming out of the backfield?


He can cover any RB and he can cover a lot of tight ends, except for Tony Gonzalez... but who can haha

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 Post subject: Re: Kam, Seahawk Value?
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People are way too reactionary to year-to-year fluctuation in a player's performance. Kam is only in his 2nd year of starting, was incredible last year, and merely good this year. He was injured, sure, but didn't play at as high of a level in general. Naturally, you tend to over-react to the most recent set of data and assume that it's going to be the trend going forward.

Over both years, Kam has shown that he is a very good player, with good athleticism, excellent hitting ability, and decent coverage skills. He probably won't be a perennial Pro Bowler, IMO, but I suspect he'll make a couple more before his time is done, and that you'll feel silly looking back on this post, for having been so concerned after his second year was only "good" instead of "incredible."

Kam has also done a great job covering TEs and RBs this year, and I can only recall one game where that wasn't true, and that was our last one. Another instance of remembering the most recent information more clearly - we forget that other great receiving TEs and RBs were essentially non-factors against us this year.

I'm not worried about the guy at all.


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Thanks I hope so..


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I think ya'll are spoiled. Kam is a great SS. Just because we are now used to insane talent and have a legit #1 CB and FS, doesn't mean that a #3-4 SS is a bad thing. Kam had to have surgery immediately after the season. I think both him and Red Bryant are in the same class this year... in that they had elite seasons last year but have recently struggled with injury (I have no idea what Kam had, but Red's plantar fasciitis is no joke, my field deals with medicine and a torn meniscus would be better). If able to overcome their injuries, I think both Kam and Red are going to have monster seasons in 2013.

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I think ya'll are spoiled. Kam is a great SS. Just because we are now used to insane talent and have a legit #1 CB and FS, doesn't mean that a #3-4 SS is a bad thing. Kam had to have surgery immediately after the season. I think both him and Red Bryant are in the same class this year... in that they had elite seasons last year but have recently struggled with injury (I have no idea what Kam had, but Red's plantar fasciitis is no joke, my field deals with medicine and a torn meniscus would be better). If able to overcome their injuries, I think both Kam and Red are going to have monster seasons in 2013.


I don't think there is anything more painful then Foot or mouth pain. So many damn nerves there.

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 Post subject: Re: Kam, Seahawk Value?
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 Post subject: Re: Kam, Seahawk Value?
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Don't forget Seattle was one of the better teams against tight ends this year, only two touchdowns allowed during the regular season and no 100 yard receivers. If I'm not mistaken wasn't the 49er game week 16? To say he hasn't intimidated someone in a long time when that was three games ago isn't too shabby.

The SS in Seattle's scheme job is to stop the run and cover the TE, I think Kam is an ideal fit for those roles.


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Archer wrote:
I think ya'll are spoiled. Kam is a great SS. Just because we are now used to insane talent and have a legit #1 CB and FS, doesn't mean that a #3-4 SS is a bad thing. Kam had to have surgery immediately after the season. I think both him and Red Bryant are in the same class this year... in that they had elite seasons last year but have recently struggled with injury (I have no idea what Kam had, but Red's plantar fasciitis is no joke, my field deals with medicine and a torn meniscus would be better). If able to overcome their injuries, I think both Kam and Red are going to have monster seasons in 2013.

Are we spoiled? You said it yourself...he needed surgery right after the season. So that means those complaining about his coverage skills are not complaining for no reason. I'll say it again, I said at the beginning of the season, Kam seemed off. Injured or not, its his job to be there in coverage.


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Give me a break. Are we at the point where we have to talk about replacing anyone who isn't an All-Pro first-teamer on defense? Kam would be at the Pro Bowl as we speak if he wasn't in a boot right now.

He held Gonzalez below his receiving average on the season, even in spite of that last 20 yarder Gonzalez caught in zone coverage. Oh, and Gonzalez just happened to go off for about 30 more receiving yards against San Francisco the next week. Kam embodies the identity of this defense and the secondary in particular. He's invaluable to this team, and I hope we have him for a long time.


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Playing at basically a pro bowl level with a foot injury the entire season makes me believe he is VERY valuable.


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Give me a break. Are we at the point where we have to talk about replacing anyone who isn't an All-Pro first-teamer on defense? Kam would be at the Pro Bowl as we speak if he wasn't in a boot right now.

He held Gonzalez below his receiving average on the season, even in spite of that last 20 yarder Gonzalez caught in zone coverage. Oh, and Gonzalez just happened to go off for about 30 more receiving yards against San Francisco the next week. Kam embodies the identity of this defense and the secondary in particular. He's invaluable to this team, and I hope we have him for a long time.

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Give me a break. Are we at the point where we have to talk about replacing anyone who isn't an All-Pro first-teamer on defense? Kam would be at the Pro Bowl as we speak if he wasn't in a boot right now.

He held Gonzalez below his receiving average on the season, even in spite of that last 20 yarder Gonzalez caught in zone coverage. Oh, and Gonzalez just happened to go off for about 30 more receiving yards against San Francisco the next week. Kam embodies the identity of this defense and the secondary in particular. He's invaluable to this team, and I hope we have him for a long time.

WAS NOT ZONE!

Ugggh! Why do seagulls gather and pick at all the small shite in the off season? Look at what's required of the position. Cam is doing a bang-up job at SS. I'm glad he doesn't try to blow up somebody on every play. Want Hamlin back? :x SMH


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Give me a break. Are we at the point where we have to talk about replacing anyone who isn't an All-Pro first-teamer on defense? Kam would be at the Pro Bowl as we speak if he wasn't in a boot right now.

He held Gonzalez below his receiving average on the season, even in spite of that last 20 yarder Gonzalez caught in zone coverage. Oh, and Gonzalez just happened to go off for about 30 more receiving yards against San Francisco the next week. Kam embodies the identity of this defense and the secondary in particular. He's invaluable to this team, and I hope we have him for a long time.

WAS NOT ZONE!


Huh? They were in zone coverage. They blitzed, so it wasn't prevent, but they played zone in coverage. Do you know what you're talking about?

You can watch Brock Huard break down the scheme on the Falcons' final drive if you don't want to take my word for it:

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Give me a break. Are we at the point where we have to talk about replacing anyone who isn't an All-Pro first-teamer on defense? Kam would be at the Pro Bowl as we speak if he wasn't in a boot right now.

He held Gonzalez below his receiving average on the season, even in spite of that last 20 yarder Gonzalez caught in zone coverage. Oh, and Gonzalez just happened to go off for about 30 more receiving yards against San Francisco the next week. Kam embodies the identity of this defense and the secondary in particular. He's invaluable to this team, and I hope we have him for a long time.

WAS NOT ZONE!

Ugggh! Why do seagulls gather and pick at all the small shite in the off season? Look at what's required of the position. Cam is doing a bang-up job at SS. I'm glad he doesn't try to blow up somebody on every play. Want Hamlin back? :x SMH

Why do you guys always think its one or the other...I love Kam as a player, but am I wrong to bitch about him missing a lot of assignments this season? Does his position require entirely for him to just smash the opposition? He's still a safety and a part of the secondary, is he not? Part of his job is to cover players. IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, he didn't perform his job as well as he did last year.


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He's only 24 so I wouldn't worry too much about him. He's still a pup and is only going to get better.

I have a feeling him and ET will do a lot of working out and film study this offseason together.


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Spoiled and reactionary sums up this topic for me. Good luck finding a better SS than Kam, even Kam's performance this year. I think it's okay to criticize current players, I just don't have a concern about this particular position.


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Kam is one of the hardest hitting players in the league and he just had ankle surgery a week or so ago. He said on twitter his ankle was the single hardest thing he had to deal with all season.

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Spoiled and reactionary sums up this topic for me. Good luck finding a better SS than Kam, even Kam's performance this year. I think it's okay to criticize current players, I just don't have a concern about this particular position.

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No shame for a safety to get beat by the best Tight End in NFL history. I would say tha Kam quietly performed at a lower level than last year, but he still had a solid season. But it will be interesting to see if they can resign him. If he makes it to FA I bet someone would overpay


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I think we should cut him and Earl Thomas and re-sign Brian Russell and Deon Grant


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Screw everyone that wants to make Kam the new ".net whipping boy". If you think this you are a moron who deserves public shame and ridicule.

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The Johnny come lately ruthlessness of this board is startling. Irvin and his rookie leading 8.5 sacks? Bust! Cut him! Kam as one of the top five safeties in the conference while play with a severe injury? cut him! Our leading receiver Sydney Rice? cut him too! Our defensive captian and best run defender who fought through injury as well? cut him!

We need to be adding complimentary pieces to our core players, not cutting our core players.

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The Johnny come lately ruthlessness of this board is startling. Irvin and his rookie leading 8.5 sacks? Bust! Cut him! Kam as one of the top five safeties in the conference while play with a severe injury? cut him! Our leading receiver Sydney Rice? cut him too! Our defensive captian and best run defender who fought through injury as well? cut him!

We need to be adding complimentary pieces to our core players, not cutting our core players.

Ya, I'm with you.

I don't get where this attitude is coming from. Did Kam's performance take a slight dip from the previous season? Yeah, maybe. Did Kam play through a severe foot injury? Yes. Why does there always have to be a whipping boy? No team is full of All-Pro players. This team, especially the secondary was lights out. I'd hate to see the numbers if Kam was not in the secondary. Be careful what you wish for people. If Kam "gets replaced" it's not going to be by someone of his caliber.

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Kams a Keeper, come on fella's. How many passes over the top were we beat for this season? .. he could tighten up on his coverage IMO, but he's definitely an asset back there, and he is extremely solid against the run...

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Don't forget we drafted another large and physical SS in Winston Guy, who by all accounts tore it up in the preseason, and was better in coverage in college than Kam was. Hell, there were rumors of Kam going to OLB because Guy was playing so well at one stretch.

Kam has seen what's happened with this team. They are always drafting a guy to try to take your job; you're very rarely going to be comfortable here. Guy will get better and provide solid depth, while pushing Kam to get better. You have to realize, even after that hit to Davis in the SF game, Kam pulled up a few more times when he could've blown someone up. No one likes getting flagged for 15 yard penalties, and it also usually means that Goodell is going to get into your pocket after the game. It's hard to light someone up every time with those thoughts in the back of your mind.


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Don't forget we drafted another large and physical SS in Winston Guy, who by all accounts tore it up in the preseason, and was better in coverage in college than Kam was. Hell, there were rumors of Kam going to OLB because Guy was playing so well at one stretch.

Kam has seen what's happened with this team. They are always drafting a guy to try to take your job; you're very rarely going to be comfortable here. Guy will get better and provide solid depth, while pushing Kam to get better. You have to realize, even after that hit to Davis in the SF game, Kam pulled up a few more times when he could've blown someone up. No one likes getting flagged for 15 yard penalties, and it also usually means that Goodell is going to get into your pocket after the game. It's hard to light someone up every time with those thoughts in the back of your mind.


And that's cool if Guy can rise up and take the starting SS position because he's better, but we're not in a position of needing to replace Kam because he's bad. Kam is a great player and had a pretty good year last year.

Having an abundance of talented football players is never a bad thing. If Guy takes over at SS and Kam is able to fill a big need for us at Will, then that is a wonderful (and maybe even possible) thing. Not something that requires a whipping boy.

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The Johnny come lately ruthlessness of this board is startling. Irvin and his rookie leading 8.5 sacks? Bust! Cut him! Kam as one of the top five safeties in the conference while play with a severe injury? cut him! Our leading receiver Sydney Rice? cut him too! Our defensive captian and best run defender who fought through injury as well? cut him!

We need to be adding complimentary pieces to our core players, not cutting our core players.


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The Johnny come lately ruthlessness of this board is startling. Irvin and his rookie leading 8.5 sacks? Bust! Cut him! Kam as one of the top five safeties in the conference while play with a severe injury? cut him! Our leading receiver Sydney Rice? cut him too! Our defensive captian and best run defender who fought through injury as well? cut him!


I just read every comment on this thread, and the ONLY guy who said to cut Kam was being sarcastic. So pump the brakes Cpt. Overreaction.

Good lord some of you guys are tender titties. Any negative comment on here is met with a wolf pack mentality of defensiveness, like it's a personal attack on your family.

This is a forum, full of people with their very own opinions. It's OK to disagree, that's what makes conversations interesting.

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The Johnny come lately ruthlessness of this board is startling. Irvin and his rookie leading 8.5 sacks? Bust! Cut him! Kam as one of the top five safeties in the conference while play with a severe injury? cut him! Our leading receiver Sydney Rice? cut him too! Our defensive captian and best run defender who fought through injury as well? cut him!

We need to be adding complimentary pieces to our core players, not cutting our core players.


Agree totally with the above. As well the tone of the conversations here seem as well to be descending into screw you type conversations instead of discussion. It is possible to disagree with another person's view without being nasty about it even if that others viewpoint may be off the wall or something you personally feel is ridiculously wrong. Let's try not to personalize the remarks and to comment on the post and not the poster.

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The Johnny come lately ruthlessness of this board is startling. Irvin and his rookie leading 8.5 sacks? Bust! Cut him! Kam as one of the top five safeties in the conference while play with a severe injury? cut him! Our leading receiver Sydney Rice? cut him too! Our defensive captian and best run defender who fought through injury as well? cut him!


I just read every comment on this thread, and the ONLY guy who said to cut Kam was being sarcastic. So pump the brakes Cpt. Overreaction.

Good lord some of you guys are tender titties. Any negative comment on here is met with a wolf pack mentality of defensiveness, like it's a personal attack on your family.

This is a forum, full of people with their very own opinions. It's OK to disagree, that's what makes conversations interesting.


Read McGruff's quote. He's talking about the board not the thread.

And he is right. There is a lot of chatter on this board about people thinking Irvin will never be an everydown player (Um...Rookie?), that Red is a liability (injury), that Kam can't cover (Injury and 1 year removed from Pro-Bowl), and that Browner should be moved to SS (Because we're going to get Revis and Kam is a Liability). Is that the general feeling of the ENTIRE board? Of course not. But those are the kind of threads that are being started this time of year, and it's hard to have a conversation with positive threads that don't exist.

Opposing opinions are absolutely allowed. You said, "Any negative comment on here is met with a wolf pack mentality of defensiveness, like it's a personal attack on your family."
I know you have seen what this board is like after a loss. It goes both ways. God forbid a poster like me has something positive to say after that because i'm supposed to let other posters "vent".

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Read McGruff's quote. He's talking about the board not the thread.


I've read all the threads, again no one said cut anybody.......except the sarcastic dude who said it as a joke or troll.......or both. People have asked the question about individual players if they were worth the draft pick? Or worth the money they're being paid? Or worthy of a starting position? Or what's wrong with certain players cause their productivity dropped off? But no cut talk warranting a full on forum freak out.

I love the passion, but it's annoying when posters exaggerate what others are saying so they can get up on their soapbox and use lots of bold and exclamation points.........like their the lone protector of everything Seahawk.

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Ugh.

I hate the off-season.

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Don't forget we drafted another large and physical SS in Winston Guy, who by all accounts tore it up in the preseason, and was better in coverage in college than Kam was. Hell, there were rumors of Kam going to OLB because Guy was playing so well at one stretch.

Kam has seen what's happened with this team. They are always drafting a guy to try to take your job; you're very rarely going to be comfortable here. Guy will get better and provide solid depth, while pushing Kam to get better. You have to realize, even after that hit to Davis in the SF game, Kam pulled up a few more times when he could've blown someone up. No one likes getting flagged for 15 yard penalties, and it also usually means that Goodell is going to get into your pocket after the game. It's hard to light someone up every time with those thoughts in the back of your mind.


The only rumors were those spread by stupid fanboys. I saw enough of Guy in the Falcons game to know he isn't half the player Kam is, either in coverage or sending the run.

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The only rumors were those spread by stupid fanboys. I saw enough of Guy in the Falcons game to know he isn't half the player Kam is, either in coverage or sending the run.


+1. I follow his Twitter feed and I'm not liking his approach to the post season either. Winston Guy that is.


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McGruff wrote:
The only rumors were those spread by stupid fanboys. I saw enough of Guy in the Falcons game to know he isn't half the player Kam is, either in coverage or sending the run.


+1. I follow his Twitter feed and I'm not liking his approach to the post season either. Winston Guy that is.

What? Going to Six Flags along with Korey Toomer and 2 fine ladies?


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 Post subject: Re: Kam, Seahawk Value?
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Spoiled and reactionary sums up this topic for me. Good luck finding a better SS than Kam, even Kam's performance this year. I think it's okay to criticize current players, I just don't have a concern about this particular position.


This kind of sums it up perfectly for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Kam, Seahawk Value?
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The Johnny come lately ruthlessness of this board is startling. Irvin and his rookie leading 8.5 sacks? Bust! Cut him!


Yet these posts are just as dumb. Nobody said to cut him and you know it, but you can't make your point without sensationalising it to hell.


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 Post subject: Re: Kam, Seahawk Value?
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Also keep in mind that everyone adjusts and gameplans and schemes against every other player. That's why you usually see a dropoff in production year 2 because adjustments have been made and tendencies have been notated.

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People are way too reactionary to year-to-year fluctuation in a player's performance. Kam is only in his 2nd year of starting, was incredible last year, and merely good this year. He was injured, sure, but didn't play at as high of a level in general. Naturally, you tend to over-react to the most recent set of data and assume that it's going to be the trend going forward.

Over both years, Kam has shown that he is a very good player, with good athleticism, excellent hitting ability, and decent coverage skills. He probably won't be a perennial Pro Bowler, IMO, but I suspect he'll make a couple more before his time is done, and that you'll feel silly looking back on this post, for having been so concerned after his second year was only "good" instead of "incredible."

Kam has also done a great job covering TEs and RBs this year, and I can only recall one game where that wasn't true, and that was our last one. Another instance of remembering the most recent information more clearly - we forget that other great receiving TEs and RBs were essentially non-factors against us this year.

I'm not worried about the guy at all.

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