FlyingGreg wrote:There's a lot of assumption in your numbers and what you "think" Revis would accept. Hard to say. I think you are way under-selling what Revis would cost. If he wants $60 million guaranteed (as pointed out in this thread) - which would be commensurate with his elite talent - there's no way his cap hit is going to be anything less than $10 million a season. Revis, Sherman, Thomas, Okung, Chancellor, Wilson, Tate, probably Wagner, potentially even Irvin if he develops. That's a LOT of pennies to take from the bank.
Nothing "automatically" denies re-signing players, but it's a consideration. I'm sure the front office will do what's best.
It doesn't really matter what New England is doing - totally different team and construct. They don't have a stack of young up and coming stars on their roster either. And FYI, New England will most likely let Welker go to free agency because he is too expensive now.
I admitted in both my previous posts that I was throwing the numbers out there and that they were open to debate. It wasn't an assumption because I was merely using examples to explain my point. However, I also made both contracts deliberately large for the examples. The highest salary paid to a cornerback is $11m (Champ Bailey, Nnamdi). By putting forward $14m per year for 2013-14 I not only beat that, but also got closer to the $16m he's reportedly 'looking for'. It stands to reason that there's probably a point where both parties can meet and even then $14m is closer to $16m than $11m. By giving him $7m in 2015/16 he's averaging over $10m per year. I think a four year contract would be fair to start with, so I don't think my numbers -- even as an example -- were ridiculous.
He will struggle to get $60m. And by that I mean nobody will pay that. Mario Williams got $50m guaranteed, was a free agent and wasn't coming off ACL surgery.
The reason I highlighted New England was to show they are paying one man -- Tom Brady -- an incredible amount of money. And yet they are still able to retain their key players. They have one guy set to earn $22m in each of the next two years. They are not losing every other player who is hitting the market in NE. And if they do lose Welker, it's because Bill Belichick has decided it's time to move on. They've been bitching at each other for ages. I actually think he'll end up staying there though.
Signing Revis does not stop the Seahawks re-signing their players. Another great example here is the Zach Miller contract. He is earning $11m in 2013, which as I pointed out previously would be $3-4m more than the average cost of Sherman and Revis. Miller is due to earn considerably less than that in 2014/15 and he's an UFA in 2016. So any extra cost you take on paying Revis and Sherman is off-set by Miller's contract coming off the books. Sidney Rice's $10m a year deal ends at the same time. So you're talking about a good $20m coming off the cap by the time Wilson's new contract is negotiated.
Bringing in a superstar player doesn't prevent you from doing anything. The issue we should be debating here really isn't whether we can afford Revis -- because we almost certainly can. It's whether we want to invest a possible first round pick and taken on a player coming off an ACL. Those are concerns, the big positive is before the injury he was among the best 2-3 defensive players in the entire NFL. He could be #1. So it's an interesting little debate for those reasons. But we can almost certainly afford to do it if we really wanted to.