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    seahawk bandwagoners need to stop dreaming. Sherman is good, but he is no where NEAR Revis. Sherman’s success is due to that amazing pass rush they have.


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  • Save the talk. Prove it on the field over a consistent basis.
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  • Seattle_Stunna_MD wrote:Save the talk. Prove it on the field over a consistent basis.


    Uh, he has been?
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  • themunn wrote:from the comments

    seahawk bandwagoners need to stop dreaming. Sherman is good, but he is no where NEAR Revis. Sherman’s success is due to that amazing pass rush they have.


    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


    Didn't you see the Green Bay game, our pass rush is pretty Godly.
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  • Seattle_Stunna_MD wrote:Save the talk. Prove it on the field over a consistent basis.

    This.
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  • legend38 wrote:
    Seattle_Stunna_MD wrote:Save the talk. Prove it on the field over a consistent basis.

    This.


    You people make me ashamed. When has he NOT proven it? He slipped and got a couple steps behind Roddy White and White got a TD. It happens. He still had a good overall game, and has had great overall games every single week this year. Stop being prissy and hating on Sherm's smack talk while drinking your tea and eating your crumpets and learn to enjoy our all-world CB's performance on the field.

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  • I'm not really sure why Sherman is picking this fight? I love the guy, but it's not like he can leverage this into a paycheck this off season.
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  • Love how people hate on Sherman. The man is confident in his job and he brings it to the field each and every week. With Revis' ACL injury, anyone doubt that Sherman will be better than Revis from this point out? Revis had a great career, but with that ACL, he's bound to lose a little bit when he comes back. Sherman has been getting better.
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  • Pretty convenient for Sherm to leave out Darrelle Revis' pass defended numbers in that screenshot.

    As much as I love his confidence, his act is growing tiresome.
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  • This Sherman act will grow tiresome the day he asks for a Revis size contract.
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  • Sherman's first two years in the league are far better than Revis' considering he only became a starter 6 games into the 2011 season, I don't think there's any reason to suggest he's not as good or better than Revis - who in 5 seasons of playing time has one season which is as good as the season Sherman just had (7 more passes defended, but 1 less interception, Sherman had 3 FF to Revis' 0 and a sack), and 3 seasons with stats similar to those put up by Sherman in 10 games last year.

    Yes maybe he needs to prove it over a consistent basis, but then again, no he doesn't because that's what football's all about - maybe Revis never ever comes back and plays to the standard he did in the past - you're only as good as your last game
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  • The dude needs to learn a little bit of how to act from Wilson. Tired of the bragging and talk.
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  • Roland and kidhawk. I have never heard a Sehawks fan complain about Sherman's on-field performance.

    Some of us just prefer a more ?dignified? approach to the game.... Think Cortez. Or Kenny Easley..

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  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    Seattle_Stunna_MD wrote:Save the talk. Prove it on the field over a consistent basis.


    Uh, he has been?


    Except when he fell down giving up that TD in Atlanta.

    I love me some Shermy Sherm, but his mouth is going to wear on me if he keeps this up for the next 10 years. There's a fine line between having some Twitter fun, and just being an ass. Sherman is precariously close to ass territory.
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  • TJH wrote:The dude needs to learn a little bit of how to act from Wilson. Tired of the bragging and talk.


    Or we can embrace the smack talk! Enjoy it even? We have arguably the best corner in the league, who isn't afraid to talk some smack, and backs it up on the field! He's our new GP!

    I know a lot of Seahawk fans are old school, quiet/silent style, the Steve Largent types (and Russell Wilson). Don't say a word, let your actions speak for themselves, act like you've been there before, yadda yadda yadda. But there's nothing wrong with having players with personality.

    But c'mon get out of your comfort zones a bit, embrace the Sherman smack talk, its a lot more fun when you do.
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  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
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    Seattle_Stunna_MD wrote:Save the talk. Prove it on the field over a consistent basis.


    Uh, he has been?


    Except when he fell down giving up that TD in Atlanta.

    I love me some Shermy Sherm, but his mouth is going to wear on me if he keeps this up for the next 10 years. There's a fine line between having some Twitter fun, and just being an ass. Sherman is precariously close to ass territory.


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  • When did we become such a weak fanbase? Really, Sherm talking himself up is "tiresome"? Give me a break.

    He's one of the best, if not the absolute best, CB in the league. He has a huge chip on his shoulder for falling to the 5th round. If this gets him motivated, who are we to tell him to shut up? His play backs up his talk, I love it.
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  • twisted_steel2 wrote:
    TJH wrote:The dude needs to learn a little bit of how to act from Wilson. Tired of the bragging and talk.


    Or we can embrace the smack talk! Enjoy it even? We have arguably the best corner in the league, who isn't afraid to talk some smack, and backs it up on the field! He's our new GP!

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    Nah, I am not going to change my outlook on sports just because the guy is on our team. I will say this, if Sherman was a 9er, he would be the most hated person on these forums, and nobody can deny that.


    I love him as a player, but that's not identity I like for our team. I want to be a classy organization.
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  • Sgt. Largent wrote:Except when he fell down giving up that TD in Atlanta.

    What a joke. See below:

    bestfightstory wrote:Roland and kidhawk. I have never heard a Sehawks fan complain about Sherman's on-field performance.

    Really? I see several people in this thread wanting Sherman to prove it on the field before talking more. That is a direct reference to his on-field performance, and they're using damned near the ONLY time he has gotten burned as some sort of perceived evidence for wanting him to be quiet. Nobody in the history of the world has ever been perfect, and Sherman's 99% of the way there, placing him in the top handful of players at ANY POSITION in the league with how good he was this year, and they're trying to use performance as an excuse for something. It's absolutely ridiculous. You can want him to be quiet all you want, but you cannot - ABSOLUTELY CANNOT link it to his performance in any way, shape, or form. That is worse than asinine.

    Check it out, Sherman was tied for 2nd place with Adrian Peterson for approximate value in the entire league, across all positions on both sides of the ball, by Pro Football Reference: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/y ... eaders.htm

    Those of you whining about Sherman's mouth, that's fine, BUT STOP MENTIONING PERFORMANCE or relating to it directly or indirectly in any way. That is absolutely ridiculous, and by ridiculous I mean a euphemism for something I can't say outside the shack that is very insulting towards you.
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  • TJH wrote: I want to be a classy organization.


    Been there, done that....how many superbowls did that get us?

    Not to mention that it's not like he's putting others down, he's just confident in himself. If he were saying that Revis sucked, that would be different. That's not what he's doing. He's saying that his name should be mentioned with the best in the game.

    I'd have to agree, and his All-Pro nod tends to support it as well.
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  • themunn wrote:
    find me a cornerback that's never ever ever been beaten and I'll find you a guy getting paid 20m a year


    My point is you'd think giving up a huge TD where you fell on your face and cost your team a chance at the NFC Championship game might create a little off season humility.
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  • twisted_steel2 wrote:
    TJH wrote:The dude needs to learn a little bit of how to act from Wilson. Tired of the bragging and talk.


    Or we can embrace the smack talk! Enjoy it even? We have arguably the best corner in the league, who isn't afraid to talk some smack, and backs it up on the field! He's our new GP!

    I know a lot of Seahawk fans are old school, quiet/silent style, the Steve Largent types (and Russell Wilson). Don't say a word, let your actions speak for themselves, act like you've been there before, yadda yadda yadda. But there's nothing wrong with having players with personality.

    But c'mon get out of your comfort zones a bit, embrace the Sherman smack talk, its a lot more fun when you do.


    It'd be impossible for me to agree more. Sherman is exactly the kind of player/personality this team needed. He's the kind of player that other parts of the country pay attention to (...and so many here have talked incessantly about lack of exposure/respect over the years!) Plus, he's one of those extremely rare commodoties...a shutdown corner (only a handful in the league at most). Some will love him and more will think he's a villian...but, in any event, they'll be thinking and talking about Seattle.
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  • Sarlacc83 wrote:I'm not really sure why Sherman is picking this fight? I love the guy, but it's not like he can leverage this into a paycheck this off season.


    If you don't know why than u don't know Sherman.
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:Except when he fell down giving up that TD in Atlanta.

    What a joke. See below:

    bestfightstory wrote:Roland and kidhawk. I have never heard a Sehawks fan complain about Sherman's on-field performance.

    Really? I see several people in this thread wanting Sherman to prove it on the field before talking more. That is a direct reference to his on-field performance, and they're using damned near the ONLY time he has gotten burned as some sort of perceived evidence for wanting him to be quiet. Nobody in the history of the world has ever been perfect, and Sherman's 99% of the way there, placing him in the top handful of players at ANY POSITION in the league with how good he was this year, and they're trying to use performance as an excuse for something. It's absolutely ridiculous. You can want him to be quiet all you want, but you cannot - ABSOLUTELY CANNOT link it to his performance in any way, shape, or form. That is worse than asinine.


    It's like he's already held to a higher standard than other corners. And they don't even realize they're doing it.

    "Did you see that one pass they completed on him, he's not very good!" Ignoring that he locked his side of the field down for 99.99% of the remaining plays, registered 5 PD's and 2 INT's.(just an example) :|

    And opposing WR's actually celebrate when they get a pass completion on him. It's actually pretty crazy to think about. There could be 25-35 passes completed in a game, but they celebrate the ones on Sherman. That's really telling.
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  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    themunn wrote:
    find me a cornerback that's never ever ever been beaten and I'll find you a guy getting paid 20m a year


    My point is you'd think giving up a huge TD where you fell on your face and cost your team a chance at the NFC Championship game might create a little off season humility.


    I'd be very worried about Sherman if this was the case. Great players never do this.
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  • Sherman is becoming obnoxious, this isn' t New York keep your mouth closed.
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  • bestfightstory wrote:Roland and kidhawk. I have never heard a Sehawks fan complain about Sherman's on-field performance.

    Some of us just prefer a more ?dignified? approach to the game.... Think Cortez. Or Kenny Easley..

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    That's fine, I'm not here to tell you which players to like or dislike, but it's not like sherman is being disrespectful here, he's not putting down anyone here, he's just elevating himself. Different people have different personalities. You can't have a team in the NFL of all nice guys on the field, or you will not be too successful. Each team, not unlike a family unit, needs different personalities to survive. I wouldn't want an entire team of Shermans, nor (no matter how much I love him) would I want an entire team of Wilsons. I like the chemistry our team has right now and Sherman puts his own little spin on it.
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  • kidhawk wrote:Love how people hate on Sherman. The man is confident in his job and he brings it to the field each and every week. With Revis' ACL injury, anyone doubt that Sherman will be better than Revis from this point out? Revis had a great career, but with that ACL, he's bound to lose a little bit when he comes back. Sherman has been getting better.


    That's not a guarantee as we all witnessed with Adrian Peterson this year.

    Sherman is talented, but I think that this kind of talk if he keeps it up will just continue to fall on deaf ears. As some of the other teams boards I have read and the comments that are made on sites like that one in the OP when he does things like this, usually include a statement that questions if his numbers would have been as impressive as they were this year if he wasn't involved with performance enhancers. Since he got off on a technicality during his appeal, he will be closely watched next year by the NFL world to see if be can play like be did this year again. His reputation in hat regard would have been better served by having been proved correct in his appeal, instead of getting off on a technicality. That's just the way it is for people in the public eye.
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:Except when he fell down giving up that TD in Atlanta.

    What a joke. See below:

    bestfightstory wrote:Roland and kidhawk. I have never heard a Sehawks fan complain about Sherman's on-field performance.

    Really? I see several people in this thread wanting Sherman to prove it on the field before talking more. That is a direct reference to his on-field performance, and they're using damned near the ONLY time he has gotten burned as some sort of perceived evidence for wanting him to be quiet. Nobody in the history of the world has ever been perfect, and Sherman's 99% of the way there, placing him in the top handful of players at ANY POSITION in the league with how good he was this year, and they're trying to use performance as an excuse for something. It's absolutely ridiculous. You can want him to be quiet all you want, but you cannot - ABSOLUTELY CANNOT link it to his performance in any way, shape, or form. That is worse than asinine.

    Check it out, Sherman was tied for 2nd place with Adrian Peterson for approximate value in the entire league, across all positions on both sides of the ball, by Pro Football Reference: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/y ... eaders.htm

    Those of you whining about Sherman's mouth, that's fine, BUT STOP MENTIONING PERFORMANCE or relating to it directly or indirectly in any way. That is absolutely ridiculous, and by ridiculous I mean a euphemism for something I can't say outside the shack that is very insulting towards you.
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  • TJH wrote:
    twisted_steel2 wrote:
    TJH wrote:The dude needs to learn a little bit of how to act from Wilson. Tired of the bragging and talk.


    Or we can embrace the smack talk! Enjoy it even? We have arguably the best corner in the league, who isn't afraid to talk some smack, and backs it up on the field! He's our new GP!

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    Nah, I am not going to change my outlook on sports just because the guy is on our team. I will say this, if Sherman was a 9er, he would be the most hated person on these forums, and nobody can deny that.


    I love him as a player, but that's not identity I like for our team. I want to be a classy organization.


    I have to agree with this post.... take it down a notch Sherm.. we still love ya but damn.
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  • kidhawk wrote:
    bestfightstory wrote:Roland and kidhawk. I have never heard a Sehawks fan complain about Sherman's on-field performance.

    Some of us just prefer a more ?dignified? approach to the game.... Think Cortez. Or Kenny Easley..

    Different Strokes.



    That's fine, I'm not here to tell you which players to like or dislike, but it's not like sherman is being disrespectful here, he's not putting down anyone here, he's just elevating himself. Different people have different personalities. You can't have a team in the NFL of all nice guys on the field, or you will not be too successful. Each team, not unlike a family unit, needs different personalities to survive. I wouldn't want an entire team of Shermans, nor (no matter how much I love him) would I want an entire team of Wilsons. I like the chemistry our team has right now and Sherman puts his own little spin on it.



    I don't disagree. Not one bit. I've just never been enamored of the 'look at me' players. Well... I was intoxicated by Bosworth coming out of college. Anyway, I'm glad Sherm is on our team. Obviously. He's a phenom. Just not that thrilled with the self-aggrandizement. It often foretells problems. Pride comes before a fall. Old-school crap.
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  • NinerLifer wrote:
    kidhawk wrote:Love how people hate on Sherman. The man is confident in his job and he brings it to the field each and every week. With Revis' ACL injury, anyone doubt that Sherman will be better than Revis from this point out? Revis had a great career, but with that ACL, he's bound to lose a little bit when he comes back. Sherman has been getting better.


    That's not a guarantee as we all witnessed with Adrian Peterson this year.

    Sherman is talented, but I think that this kind of talk if he keeps it up will just continue to fall on deaf ears. As some of the other teams boards I have read and the comments that are made on sites like that one in the OP when he does things like this, usually include a statement that questions if his numbers would have been as impressive as they were this year if he wasn't involved with performance enhancers. Since he got off on a technicality during his appeal, he will be closely watched next year by the NFL world to see if be can play like be did this year again. His reputation in hat regard would have been better served by having been proved correct in his appeal, instead of getting off on a technicality. That's just the way it is for people in the public eye.


    It's not a guarantee, but CB and RB are two different positions. CB's need to be more agile and faster. It only takes a split second to get burned. Revis can come back and still be a great corner, but if you watched Sherman play this year, he is playing as well as Revis was BEFORE the injury, and the surgery won't make Revis a better CB. Peterson didn't become a better RB, he ran into a rare opportunity this season with some god awful QB play, they really put the game in his hands more. Not trying to take anything away from Revis here, but Sherman has only a year and a half of playing experience and is already as good as Revis at his prime. Revis won't be any better than he was when he returns, but Sherman is still improving.
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  • NFSeahawks628 wrote:Sherman is becoming obnoxious, this isn' t New York keep your mouth closed.

    The rest of the NFL has BEEN obnoxious since I don't know when. They pass Sherman up for the Pro Bowl? Really? Screw them. Sherman's just shoving their ignorance in their faces and you know what? THEY NEED THEIR IGNORANCE SHOVED IN THEIR FACES.

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  • NFSeahawks628 wrote:Sherman is becoming obnoxious, this isn' t New York keep your mouth closed.


    This isn't Catholic Sunday School class, either. To everyone complaining about Sherm's mouth: less whining would be nice.
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  • bestfightstory wrote:It often foretells problems. Pride comes before a fall. Old-school crap.


    Except in the real world, this isn't true a lot of the time, and plenty of prideful people don't get a comeuppance. Not that being prideful in and of itself deserves being taught a lesson. This isn't a rom-com.
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  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
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    find me a cornerback that's never ever ever been beaten and I'll find you a guy getting paid 20m a year


    My point is you'd think giving up a huge TD where you fell on your face and cost your team a chance at the NFC Championship game might create a little off season humility.

    He was assignment sound on that play. 31 was supposed to be over the top, but got suckered. The falling down had nothing to do with the result. The assignment for that play was chase.

    Or we could do it your way and blame him for not getting one game farther while ignoring the handful of really great individual plays he made in that game.
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  • kidhawk wrote:
    bestfightstory wrote:Roland and kidhawk. I have never heard a Sehawks fan complain about Sherman's on-field performance.

    Some of us just prefer a more ?dignified? approach to the game.... Think Cortez. Or Kenny Easley..

    Different Strokes.



    That's fine, I'm not here to tell you which players to like or dislike, but it's not like sherman is being disrespectful here, he's not putting down anyone here, he's just elevating himself. Different people have different personalities. You can't have a team in the NFL of all nice guys on the field, or you will not be too successful. Each team, not unlike a family unit, needs different personalities to survive. I wouldn't want an entire team of Shermans, nor (no matter how much I love him) would I want an entire team of Wilsons. I like the chemistry our team has right now and Sherman puts his own little spin on it.


    Kid i hear what you're saying and agree with it for the most part.. but there are more productive way to lift yourself up... i'm sure Revis takes some offense to the fact the Sherman threw his name out there like this... which wasn't necesarry.... all he had to do was say, i think i'm the top corner in the league , here's my numbers to back that up... if Revis wanted to challenge , then he could... you can talk smack and still keep it classy.
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    NFSeahawks628 wrote:Sherman is becoming obnoxious, this isn' t New York keep your mouth closed.


    This isn't Catholic Sunday School class, either. To everyone complaining about Sherm's mouth: less whining would be nice.


    i don't think wanting or expecting your team to act in a more dignified or professional manner is whining at all?
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  • hawker84 wrote:i don't think wanting or expecting your team to act in a more dignified or professional manner is whining at all?


    Corporate suit-seats for golf-clapping on good plays while watching NFL games with a glass of pinot grigio in your hand are in Dallas, not Seattle. It's thataway --->
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  • twisted_steel2 wrote:
    TJH wrote:The dude needs to learn a little bit of how to act from Wilson. Tired of the bragging and talk.


    Or we can embrace the smack talk! Enjoy it even? We have arguably the best corner in the league, who isn't afraid to talk some smack, and backs it up on the field! He's our new GP!

    I know a lot of Seahawk fans are old school, quiet/silent style, the Steve Largent types (and Russell Wilson). Don't say a word, let your actions speak for themselves, act like you've been there before, yadda yadda yadda. But there's nothing wrong with having players with personality.

    But c'mon get out of your comfort zones a bit, embrace the Sherman smack talk, its a lot more fun when you do.


    Unsolicited smack from your twitter account after getting knocked out of the playoffs is what some of us are rolling our eyes at. I love the way he plays and loved his week-to-week attitude during the season, but if he keeps it up year round it will get tired pretty quick, imo. Sure love that he's on my team, though.
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    hawker84 wrote:i don't think wanting or expecting your team to act in a more dignified or professional manner is whining at all?


    Corporate suit-seats for golf-clapping on good plays while watching NFL games with a glass of pinot grigio in your hand are in Dallas, not Seattle. It's thataway --->


    spare me...
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    bestfightstory wrote:Roland and kidhawk. I have never heard a Sehawks fan complain about Sherman's on-field performance.

    Some of us just prefer a more ?dignified? approach to the game.... Think Cortez. Or Kenny Easley..

    Different Strokes.



    That's fine, I'm not here to tell you which players to like or dislike, but it's not like sherman is being disrespectful here, he's not putting down anyone here, he's just elevating himself. Different people have different personalities. You can't have a team in the NFL of all nice guys on the field, or you will not be too successful. Each team, not unlike a family unit, needs different personalities to survive. I wouldn't want an entire team of Shermans, nor (no matter how much I love him) would I want an entire team of Wilsons. I like the chemistry our team has right now and Sherman puts his own little spin on it.


    Kid i hear what you're saying and agree with it for the most part.. but there are more productive way to lift yourself up... i'm sure Revis takes some offense to the fact the Sherman through his name out there like this... which wasn't necesarry.... all he had to do was say, i think i'm the top corner in the league , here's my numbers to back that up... if Revis wanted to challenge , then he could... you can talk smack and still keep it classy.


    Who's to say Sherman threw his name out there? It's twitter. He could have been reading tweets from others and just made his own to set them straight. We don't know that he just up and decided to randomly proclaim himself better than Revis. It's weird that fans of his own team don't even want to give him the benefit of the doubt. Like the many who proclaimed his guilt on the PED charge. There were plenty that didn't want to wait for the outcome and just thought he was guilty. I guarantee there are still some today who think he was guilty, because they decided that upon hearing the charges. This is just the way it works in this world. Personally, I don't really care as long as he doesn't go too far out there (such as berating others and such) as long as he's just being confidently cocky, I really have no problem with it.

    As for Revis having an issue with it, I doubt he does. If he did, I'm sure he'd say so. He's not exactly the shy and quiet type either.
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  • Can you imagine the hate on this board if Sherm was a 49er?

    We would be ballistic.
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  • hawker84 wrote:
    RolandDeschain wrote:Corporate suit-seats for golf-clapping on good plays while watching NFL games with a glass of pinot grigio in your hand are in Dallas, not Seattle. It's thataway --->


    spare me...

    I don't know, I thought it was kind of a clever response on my part, and I amused myself by typing it. :) I could be wrong. It definitely happens aplenty.

    TJH wrote:Can you imagine the hate on this board if Sherm was a 49er?

    We would be ballistic.

    I'd be hella jealous. :( Hell, I'm hella jealous about Justin Smith. He's the best player on that roster.
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    TJH wrote:Can you imagine the hate on this board if Sherm was a 49er?

    We would be ballistic.

    I'd be hella jealous. :(


    Perhaps, but he would be public enemy #1 in Seattle.
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    TJH wrote:Can you imagine the hate on this board if Sherm was a 49er?

    We would be ballistic.

    I'd be hella jealous. :( Hell, I'm hella jealous about Justin Smith. He's the best player on that roster.


    Could you imagine a healthy Clemons next to a Justin Smith? Or even Bruce Irvin....
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  • joeshaney wrote:
    Sarlacc83 wrote:I'm not really sure why Sherman is picking this fight? I love the guy, but it's not like he can leverage this into a paycheck this off season.


    If you don't know why than u don't know Sherman.
    Drafted in the 5th round passed over by 32 teams 4 times including his college coach.
    He is a prideful competitor with oozing confidence. This is who he is and those who wish he be quiet don't know him.


    Thanks?

    Seriously, though, your comment is pretty much useless to the point of my question. Just because he oozes confidence doesn't explain his end game by making this comparison. It really doesn't. And if he doesn't have an end game, then why open your mouth when it's the OFF SEASON.
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