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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII?  Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:34 am |
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:20 am |
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pehawk wrote: We're talking about the films, not the shows here.
And, you obviously dont know Star Trek if you didn't realize Abrams didn't make up Kirk cheatin on the test. Rodenberry did. Again, referenced in Kahn. I am very well aware of that. But Khan never referenced Kirk going from a busted cadet to first officer of the Starfleet flagship in the same day, in the midst of a crisis. That's a strain. _________________ GO HAWKS!!! Visit my Seahawks blog at 17power.blogspot.com!Follow me on Twitter at @17power
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:35 am |
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MontanaHawk05 wrote: pehawk wrote: We're talking about the films, not the shows here.
And, you obviously dont know Star Trek if you didn't realize Abrams didn't make up Kirk cheatin on the test. Rodenberry did. Again, referenced in Kahn. I am very well aware of that. But Khan never referenced Kirk going from a busted cadet to first officer of the Starfleet flagship in the same day, in the midst of a crisis. That's a strain. In a Sci Fi movie that includes magic antimatter that destroys planets but not the container it is in or the needle used to slurp it up, that is your main beef? Nerds! I think maybe you just hate change. You women are so hard to understand. Kirk nailed a green lady, got spock pinched, and went with his gut in a low percentage situation. Roddenberry would approve.
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:51 am |
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Scottemojo wrote: MontanaHawk05 wrote: pehawk wrote: We're talking about the films, not the shows here.
And, you obviously dont know Star Trek if you didn't realize Abrams didn't make up Kirk cheatin on the test. Rodenberry did. Again, referenced in Kahn. I am very well aware of that. But Khan never referenced Kirk going from a busted cadet to first officer of the Starfleet flagship in the same day, in the midst of a crisis. That's a strain. In a Sci Fi movie that includes magic antimatter that destroys planets but not the container it is in or the needle used to slurp it up, that is your main beef? Nerds! I think maybe you just hate change. You women are so hard to understand. Kirk nailed a green lady, got spock pinched, and went with his gut in a low percentage situation. Roddenberry would approve. Montana's main problem with Abrams' Trek is that it didn't include enough babbling about dilithium crystals and other nonsense to make the show 'sound' science-y.
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:13 am |
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Well, well look who joined the party, Mr Scott (pun intended, if you don't get it Roland will explain it shortly).
I liked the fact Kirk, Spock, Bones, all of them had depth. Oh, and, ya know, the reboot has actors, like who can act.
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:38 am |
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Believe it or not, Pe, I'm out of my depth in this thread as it relates to Star Trek. I know next to nothing about the Star Trek universe. I'm assuming you're referring to the "beam me up, Scotty" thing, though?
I'm feeling massively out-nerded reading this thread, to be honest.
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:44 am |
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pehawk wrote: Oh, and, ya know, the reboot has actors, like who can act. I'm not even sure what that's supposed to mean. _________________ GO HAWKS!!! Visit my Seahawks blog at 17power.blogspot.com!Follow me on Twitter at @17power
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:10 pm |
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MontanaHawk05 wrote: pehawk wrote: Oh, and, ya know, the reboot has actors, like who can act. I'm not even sure what that's supposed to mean. It means he has a man-crush on Chris Pike.
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:55 pm |
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No, they're just real actors, with talent.
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:10 pm |
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pehawk wrote: No, they're just real actors, with talent. If they really hone those acting chops, they will be good enough to do ads for internet travel sites.
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:13 pm |
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Kahn will even played by an actor, Cumberbatch.
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:30 pm |
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When they do those travelocity ads, it has to take hours to do the makeup for Capn Kirk, just to hide his gin blossom.
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:21 am |
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:31 am |
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Seahawk Sailor wrote: Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America President John Scalzi weighs in on this subject. For the record, I pretty much agree with his assessment: http://whatever.scalzi.com/2013/01/26/all-right-fine-heres-what-i-think-about-jj-abrams-directing-star-wars-episode-vii/Agreed that Del Toro would've been the better choice. One of the many issues with ep 1-3 was the lack of models/puppets vs CGI. The original trilogy looked more realistic because of space being crude oil and milk, models of the ships, etc. I've never seen an Abrams film aside from his Trek, which was a real challenge. The chance of success was less than 1%, because the universe answers to fanatical base. And, as I said before, Abrams actually focused on the personalities and required acting. Which, I LOVE. My favorite film all-time is the Apostle, I love charectar driven films. But, I also dig Trek and popcorn flicks. Abrams AT least added some dimension to the crew.
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:52 am |
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Not trolling here, Pe, but I really don't see the dimension you're talking about. The character development struck me as derivative, Spock's being merely decent. The rest were cutouts.
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:54 am |
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:00 pm |
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I liked Nemisis for Hardy. I focus more on the acting.
In the original films, the crew seemed charactatures and one-liners.
Okay, why would us discussing this be trolling?
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:22 pm |
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pehawk wrote: In the original films, the crew seemed charactatures and one-liners. They seemed that way in BOTH versions, and I think that was a conscious choice by Abrams. Chekov the young guy, Sulu the intense navigator, Uhura the mystery, McCoy the crusty humanitarian, Scotty the uptight engineer, all spouting their one-liners...Abrams stuck to this format in the movie, really. I didn't see much more than that. And I suppose it was a valid choice in that light. But I didn't like it, because I was raised in the TNG era where the episodic format allowed for more depth. _________________ GO HAWKS!!! Visit my Seahawks blog at 17power.blogspot.com!Follow me on Twitter at @17power
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:14 pm |
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I think my favorite part of Scalzi's thoughts on this was "...or Paul Verhoeven (oh, God, Paul Verhoeven)." Can't say the Mos Eisley Cantina scene wouldn't have been 100% better with an extra boobie, can ya?
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Post subject: Re: J.J. Abrams set to direct Star Wars Episode VII? Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:50 am |
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Well, I was trolling.
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