Well, whichever one of his advisors told him it would be ok to do this is going to get fired. or killed. or both.

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Obama has attempted quite a few more unconstitutional acts than this, but I'm glad the courts actually caught this one. Here are a couple articles stating some of the things he (and bush before him in some cases) has done. If you don't believe it, just research it yourself and you'll find other sources that confirm.



That's two of ten violations they found.



Frankly, we don't need a president who is distracting the rest of the government with his bizarre and lawless actions. We should be focusing on spending cuts in order to help our economy.

If only Bush took time to not lead our economy into the dumpster in his 8 years instead of starting two useless wars and allowing unconstitional bills like the Patriot Act, maybe Obama wouldn't be filing any papers on indefinite detention (which is also BULLSHIT).

As for birth control: Religion, meet 21st Century.

We can only move on as a country when we realize a final, indispensable, healing change of mind, that the former leaders of our country had engaged in an implicit fear-mongering campaign to alienate us from the rest of the world. They did this slowly, surreptitiously, by constantly making us focus on issues like the Constitution and organized religion instead of looking forward to the future. Once we realize the Constitution is nothing more than a sadly outdated document created in the days of bigotry and racism, and religion is simply an opiate for the uneducated proletariat, we can end our stubborn, self-willed exile and join the blissful dream that is now offered us in this enlightened age.

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This is like a mad lib that I mostly agree with.

Something like this:
We can only move on as a country when we realize a final, indispensable, healing change of mind, that the former leaders of our country had engaged in an implicit fear-mongering campaign to alienate us from the rest of the world. They did this recently, surreptitiously, by constantly making us focus on divisive issues like abortion and organized religion instead of looking forward to the future. Once we realize the Constitution is nothing more than a well-written, bedrock document created in the days of Enlightenment and revolution, and religion is simply a distraction for the manipulative politicians, we can end our stubborn, self-appointed exile and join the hopeful dream that is now offered us in this current age.

Well, it would appear that the Supreme court disagrees with the non-constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act.

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Only in so much as the mandate is concerned. It is yet to take up the contraceptives and other religious grounds issues.

And it shouldn't because those are bullshit grounds.

We outlawed bigamy. We've outlawed human sacrifice. If your religion doesn't accept what is best for your people then maybe it's time to start thinking of a new religion.

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That's a can of worms I'm sure they don't even want to pull the top off of.

Giving waivers to deny medical services on religious grounds could be seen as a violation of the establisment clause. It shows favoritism for those churches that provide medical care. Many of the employees affected are not catholics, or even religious at all. All or almost all, of the Supreme Court Justices are Catholics. I'd just love to see a couple of them get impeached because of this one.

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How exactly is NOT providing a condom or a birth control pill, really any of yours, mine or anyone elses business? If catholics (or anyone in any religion) want to step outside their relgion and use these things, that is their choice, and nobody is saying otherwise, but you can't just mandate that a religion provide something that it believes to be a sin. The constitution is not just freedom from religion into government, but it's also, and very much so, freedom from government interference in religion.

What if they don't believe in minimum wage?

We make laws outside of religion. The constitution does not provide any freedom of interference, that would be absolutely ridiculous. Feel free to practice religion within the bounds of the laws of our land.

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What if? That has nothing to do with it. There are no churches who's basic tenet is that minimum wage is a sin. That's ridiculous on it's face. amount of wage has nothing to do with religion.

The formation of life, on the other hand, does have quite a bit to do with religion and therefor is an issue that can and should be covered.

Why exactly is everyone so up in arms to provide condoms and birth control pills to everyone anyway? Don't we have free clinics all across the country that already do this for those who can't afford it?

Let's let the individual choose if they want it instead of forcing a religion to go against a very long held belief.

Just because it's not your belief, or my belief, doesn't mean it's not valid

I could start a religion tomorrow that opposes minimum wage. And you would say that the law bounds me to it?

Because you are apart of a religion does not give you any special powers in the United States. You are free to practice as long as it's within the limits of our laws. If the laws change that effects your religion, that's tough fucking luck.

I don't care if the belief is valid or not, that has nothing to do with it and I'm not going to confuse the debate by adding whether birth control should be included or not.

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The bolded part is EXACTLY why the freedom of religion clause is in the constitution. Religious rights shouldn't be infringed upon, just because YOU don't agree with them.

You talking about starting a religion just to avoid the law is COMPLETELY different than creating a law to oppose a long standing religious tenet that hurts nobody. We're not talking about a religion forcing anyone to do something or not do something against there will here, what we are talking about is the government forcing a religion to do something against it's beliefs.

If we don't force religions to provide free birth control, individuals can still get birth control...no rights lost

If we do force religions to provide birth control, then the government has unconstitutionally interfered in a religious practice which they have no business in interfering in.

The thing is, the requirement is for the insurance companies to provide the services and products. The religion only contracts to the insurance companies. Why should they decide, other than some ridiculous power grab?

The issue is between the insurance companies and the patients, the church shouldn't even be involved, except to preach and teach their acolytes to adhere to their rules. They should have no power over a secular business-the insurers-over what services they cover.

If they can't keep their own believers in line to follow their rules, why should they be able to petition government help to do so?

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The question is whether or not the government should force religions to pay for something which they goes against their own beliefs. It has nothing to do with forcing the individual to do (or not do) anything at all. They still have the ability to get birth control of their own volition, just not through the church's policy.

Anyone who wants to get birth control can. It's not like they don't give out this stuff at Planned Parenthood clinics and other places as well, so it's not like those who can't afford it can't find it if they want to. This is just another way to push the boundaries of the constitution just a little further.

I didn't start a religion to avoid the law, I started a religion because those are my beliefs. Sorry that the basis of my religion hasn't been around for a few thousand years. That doesn't make it more valid. Mayan religion has been around even longer and I'm pretty sure human sacrifice was legal.

There is absolutely NOTHING in the constitution that says we can't create a law that interferes with religious beliefs (I didn't know that religions were against insurance covering birth control?).

Look, I know what you're really against is the government telling almighty kidhawk what not and what to do.

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RIP ROAD WOES 12/2/2012

The constitution is not the only rule of law. It's a living document. It's meant to be expanded, contracted, altered, and updated as time goes on. The constitution has no boundaries. It's a set of principles that can change as the country changes.

The government isn't forcing religions to do anything. The government is telling one of it's registered entities [employers] that you need to provide these basic services for your employees. It doesn't say "Catholics do this, Jews do this" - That would be wrong. And by saying that Catholics or Jews or any other religion may be exempt from a rule of law is absolutely ridiculous.

If your religion is not able to grow with the needs of the people that live within the boundaries of the United States, pick up and move your religion somewhere you can rule your people.

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FIFY

The issue is between the insurance companies and the patients, the government shouldn't even be involved.

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