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Post subject: Re: Mel Kiper re-grades 2012 draft Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:09 pm |
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SoulfishHawk wrote: Well, here's to hoping Kiper hates our draft again this year. 
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Post subject: Re: Mel Kiper re-grades 2012 draft Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:59 pm |
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If our upcoming draft is anywhere near as good as our previous one, we'll literally be bursting at the ears with talent.
Our practice squad would be comprised of potential starters on a team like the Jets or Browns lol.
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Post subject: Re: Mel Kiper re-grades 2012 draft Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:09 pm |
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Mel Kiper reminds me of a weatherman's prediction 30 years ago. Right about 30% of the time.
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Post subject: Re: Mel Kiper re-grades 2012 draft Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:11 pm |
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Chawker wrote: Mel Kiper reminds me of a weatherman's prediction 30 years ago. Right about 30% of the time. Wait, are you trying to say that weather predictions are more accurate now than they were 30 years ago? 
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Post subject: Re: Mel Kiper re-grades 2012 draft Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:19 pm |
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From the article
" The one pick I really questioned then and still feel the same way about is Bruce Irvin at No. 15 overall"
Did ANYONE else watch the draft and think that the ONE pick he really questioned was the Bruce Irvin pick? I really had this nagging feeling that he also QUESTIONED... the RW pick.
Just saying I don't see him admitting to anything at all. He is now focusing on how he said RW was a testcase. That wasn't his focus at the time that was his escape route slid in there among all the "this isn't going to work talk"
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Post subject: Re: Mel Kiper re-grades 2012 draft Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:29 pm |
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Gruden refuses to be critical of anyone. His Captain Sunshine act makes MNF almost unbearable sometimes. I don't give him any credit for taking the safe route every time.
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Post subject: Re: Mel Kiper re-grades 2012 draft Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:31 pm |
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Why would somebody want to grade the draft immedietly after the draft..makes no sense. It should wait until after the season. You dont grade a test until the test has been taken..dimwits
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Post subject: Re: Mel Kiper re-grades 2012 draft Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:50 pm |
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BGHawk wrote: Why would somebody want to grade the draft immedietly after the draft..makes no sense. It should wait until after the season. You dont grade a test until the test has been taken..dimwits Entertainment purposes. Predictions are interesting, just like when we all predict the Seahawks record at the beginning of the season.
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Post subject: Re: Mel Kiper re-grades 2012 draft Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:01 pm |
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Rat wrote: Gruden refuses to be critical of anyone. His Captain Sunshine act makes MNF almost unbearable sometimes. I don't give him any credit for taking the safe route every time. So you're saying he took "the safe route" with his support of Wilson? I 'd say the odds were against him. He was about the only guy in RW's corner. Maybe you really meant he chose to be optimistic and that grates on you somehow?We are talking about Gruden as it relates to Russell Wilson -something he put a lot of homework into. We are not talking about Gruden as a MNF announcer.
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Post subject: Re: Mel Kiper re-grades 2012 draft Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:04 pm |
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HawKnPeppa wrote: Rat wrote: Gruden refuses to be critical of anyone. His Captain Sunshine act makes MNF almost unbearable sometimes. I don't give him any credit for taking the safe route every time. So you're saying he took "the safe route" with his support of Wilson? I 'd say the odds were against him. He was about the only guy in RW's corner. Maybe you really meant he chose to be optimistic and that grates on you somehow?We are talking about Gruden as it relates to Russell Wilson -something he put a lot of homework into. We are not talking about Gruden as a MNF announcer. By "safe route", I'm referring to how he gushes about everyone. You take a lot more heat when you're critical and are wrong than vice versa. He makes sure to get no enemies. Probably does that in case he decides to go back into coaching.
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Post subject: Re: Mel Kiper re-grades 2012 draft Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:18 pm |
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Gruden does keep things mostly positive on his FFCA segments talking to QB prospects, but he GUSHED about Wilson. Then at the end of the segment he looked into the camera and had a speech saying how he thought Wilson was the steal of the draft. I had never seen anything like it from Gruden before. Then you had the draft weekend theatrics where his father-like defensiveness for Wilson was palpable.
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Post subject: Re: Mel Kiper re-grades 2012 draft Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:19 pm |
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And of course, Aaron Curry was the "safest pick in the draft" One of the all time worst calls by an "expert" 
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Post subject: Re: Mel Kiper re-grades 2012 draft Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:21 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Mel Kiper re-grades 2012 draft Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:57 pm |
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Sarlacc83 wrote: Much like Daytomann's post in the Shack, I give him absolutely zero credit for admitting the obvious. Its like saying I knew the Ravens would win the super bowl after he picked SF. His grades arent reliable so I`ll listen to someone else.
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Post subject: Re: Mel Kiper re-grades 2012 draft Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:55 am |
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BGHawk wrote: Why would somebody want to grade the draft immedietly after the draft..makes no sense. It should wait until after the season. You dont grade a test until the test has been taken..dimwits I would like to see Draft Grades, or Drafts re-done after 3 seasons. That would really give perspective.
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Post subject: Re: Mel Kiper re-grades 2012 draft Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:17 am |
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SoulfishHawk wrote: And of course, Aaron Curry was the "safest pick in the draft" One of the all time worst calls by an "expert"  To be fair, everyone was wrong about Curry.
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Post subject: Re: Mel Kiper re-grades 2012 draft Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:27 am |
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McGruff wrote: SoulfishHawk wrote: And of course, Aaron Curry was the "safest pick in the draft" One of the all time worst calls by an "expert"  To be fair, everyone was wrong about Curry. No kidding; I spend $$$ on an authentic jersey for that clown!
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Post subject: Re: Mel Kiper re-grades 2012 draft Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:57 am |
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This isn't science - they are right on some, wrong on some and guess what so are 32 GM's, Head-coaches and owners.... There are undrafted players making an impact the very same season and there are first round players that are bust.
So Kiper didn't like RW well we got him in the 3rd round - clearly he wasn't alone in this thinking.......
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Post subject: Re: Mel Kiper re-grades 2012 draft Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:20 am |
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RolandDeschain wrote: Chawker wrote: Mel Kiper reminds me of a weatherman's prediction 30 years ago. Right about 30% of the time. Wait, are you trying to say that weather predictions are more accurate now than they were 30 years ago?  They are substantially more accurate, but you may be thrown off by your TV and radio sensationalism (they tend to exaggerate for excitement). I suggest using NOAA's web site.
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