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People want to act as Sherman's lawyer but Sherman is just asking for trouble here. It is simply Stupid. Why invite scrutiny?

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Sherman needs to do two things.

- Shut up

- Find Largent80's bookie, because I bet he could have got like +2000 odds on the Ravens to cover.

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NFL Gambling Policy
• NFL players and coaches cannot take bribes to throw or fix a game. Playing or
coaching at less than the very best and being paid to do so is against the law and a
major violation of NFL policy.
• Any attempts to bribe a player or coach, or knowledge of attempted bribes, must be
reported immediately.
• League employees (players, coaches, and staff) are prohibited from betting on any
NFL game.
• Associating with gamblers or gambling activity is against NFL policy.
• Endorsing or promoting gambling, even if the gambling is legal, is against NFL policy.
This includes cruise or casino appearances

Yea, he messed up. Bad.

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Could he be suspended? How long would it be for?


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Like a bunch of gossiping housewives... sheesh.

the bet could have been with a buddy to wash cars for all anyone knows...

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this thread should be deleted for obvious reasons, good grief

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Like a bunch of gossiping housewives... sheesh.

the bet could have been with a buddy to wash cars for all anyone knows...



That's what I'm thinking, probably a personal bet with a friend. I doubt the NFL could (or would) do anything about that.

And knowing how much Sherman likes to talk, he may not even be in Vegas.


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The fact that this site is the only one talking about this lets you know that its a non issue. We have officially entered the off season..


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Like a bunch of gossiping housewives... sheesh.

the bet could have been with a buddy to wash cars for all anyone knows...



That's what I'm thinking, probably a personal bet with a friend. I doubt the NFL could (or would) do anything about that.

And knowing how much Sherman likes to talk, he may not even be in Vegas.


He took a pic with the Mexican Bumble Bee...he's in Vegas.

And why delete this thread? It's not like the NFL hasn't noticed his tweets if there's an issue there.


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The fact that this site is the only one talking about this lets you know that its a non issue. We have officially entered the off season..


I have seen it on at least three other sites

Sherman just triumphed over the league but Godell doesn't seem like a guy to hold a grudge....

This is majorly stupid assuming that player conduct still holds up and this thread is irrelevant the tweets are forever...


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It's interesting that this hasn't popped up on any sports news page.


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It's interesting that this hasn't popped up on any sports news page.

Agreed.

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It's interesting that this hasn't popped up on any sports news page.



They're gonna go with the "oh we knew it for months" but just wanting to make it public before the first week for the season.

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You guys really think Sherman is breaking rules and tweeting about it? Do you really think he's that stupid? Wow. No respect.

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His season is over and he is betting on a game he is (presumably legally) betting on a game he isn't involved. I've never heard how that is against the code of conduct.

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His season is over and he is betting on a game he is (presumably legally) betting on a game he isn't involved. I've never heard how that is against the code of conduct.


Current CBA:
http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/collective-bargaining-agreement-2011-2020.pdf

From page 261 (page 276 of the pdf file):

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15. INTEGRITY OF GAME. Player recognizes the detriment to the League and pro-fessional football that would result from impairment of public confidence in the honest and orderly conduct of NFL games or the integrity and good character of NFL players. Player therefore acknowledges his awareness that if he accepts a bribe or agrees to throw or fix an NFL game; fails to promptly report a bribe offer or an attempt to throw or fix an NFL game; bets on an NFL game; knowingly associates with gamblers or gambling activity; uses or provides other players with stimulants or other drugs for the purpose of attempting to enhance on-field performance; or is guilty of any other form of conduct reasonably judged by the League Commissioner to be detrimental to the League or pro-fessional football, the Commissioner will have the right, but only after giving Player the opportunity for a hearing at which he may be represented by counsel of his choice, to fine Player in a reasonable amount; to suspend Player for a period certain or indefinitely; and/or to terminate this contract.

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• League employees (players, coaches, and staff) are prohibited from betting on any NFL game.

It's common sense.

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Well, in that case, nevermind...

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Is it possible that Sherm is stupid enough to believe he can break serious NFL rules, snitch on himself on twitter about it and still get away with it? Sure. I'll go ahead and give him the benefit of the doubt though.

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What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas (unless you put it on Twitter).

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Just reading through that little section of the CBA, one could easily assume that gambling in any form is prohibited by the NFL, but everyone knows it happens and you don't hear of people being suspended for it. Players travel to Vegas all the time.

Perhaps this was written in such a way as to cover more than the NFL actually means it to cover, and perhaps there have been clarifying papers sent out to players with allowances for betting at legal establishments such as Vegas or such. Honestly, I have no idea what the ACTUAL NFL policy is. If I was going strictly by the verbiage above, I'd say that placing any bet would be against NFL rules, but when looking at it realistically, I do not believe that is the case.

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Don't over think it, kid. You highlighted in green the critical and accurate piece.

It is well known by the players they are not to gamble on NFL games.

It is a condition of their employment.

They aren't even suppose to 'associate with known gamblers'. That phrase has always cracked me up.

I know several former NFL players, an NFL referee, coach, etc. and trust me:

The NFL is very clear on this.



I know there used to be placards reminding/warning players of the rules around this posted IN EVERY NFL LOCKER ROOM.

All this said; would Sherman be dumb enough to violate the rule???

IMO, whether he did or not, his twittering shows an obvious presence of reckless judgement.

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All this said; would Sherman be dumb enough to violate the rule???

IMO, whether he did or not, his twittering shows an obvious presence of reckless judgement.


Maybe since he won that appeal he thinks he's untouchable??

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Maybe he's just being comical about his views on the Superbowl. Hates the Whiners and thinks the Ravens will win easily.

Winning money at the craps table...

I'm gonna go with that and believe it until we hear otherwise.


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Maybe he's just being comical about his views on the Superbowl. Hates the Whiners and thinks the Ravens will win easily.

Winning money at the craps table...

I'm gonna go with that and believe it until we hear otherwise.


I'd be willing to bet money (and tweet about it) that he was just being a smart ass. But we should totally freak out about it. ;)

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Maybe he's just being comical about his views on the Superbowl. Hates the Whiners and thinks the Ravens will win easily.

Winning money at the craps table...

I'm gonna go with that and believe it until we hear otherwise.


I'd be willing to bet money (and tweet about it) that he was just being a smart ass. But we should totally freak out about it. ;)


I can see how you could think this is freaking out, but is it a bad thing to be concerned about the actions of a premier player? The tweet can be construed either way depending on your view, but I don't want to see him lost because of a possible simple mistake. And to the person who said he went to Stanford and wouldn't be this dumb, evidently you haven't met or dealt with many smart people, they can be dumb as hell too.

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Maybe he's just being comical about his views on the Superbowl. Hates the Whiners and thinks the Ravens will win easily.

Winning money at the craps table...

I'm gonna go with that and believe it until we hear otherwise.


I'd be willing to bet money (and tweet about it) that he was just being a smart ass. But we should totally freak out about it. ;)


I can see how you could think this is freaking out, but is it a bad thing to be concerned about the actions of a premier player? The tweet can be construed either way depending on your view, but I don't want to see him lost because of a possible simple mistake. And to the person who said he went to Stanford and wouldn't be this dumb, evidently you haven't met or dealt with many smart people, they can be dumb as hell too.


When it's a blurb on twitter By Sherman and not a member of the media, no, it's not worth being concerned about.

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I disagree when it is something that, potentially, could mean a suspension for him depending on how bad the NFL would want to pursue it. Either way, it is probably a non-issue, but still something that he should be more cognizant of in the future.

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your reading it wrong.

Anquan and Flacco are referred to in the present.

money and gambling were referred to in the past tense.


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Stanford coach Bill Walsh once lobbied for an investigation into the U-Dub football program. Whether he knows it or not, Sherm is now lobbying for an investigation into Stanford's football program.

How..?



By showing he's none too bright. But you could have figured that out...right?


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What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas (unless you put it on Twitter).


Hahaha...good stuff. Twitter should be banned along with Facebook. Either that or every tweet and post should be on auto-filter.....reviewed first by the teams media personel.


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Wow, glad it took me until it reached 5 pages to first finally view it. :!: :!:

I surely hope Sherm didn't really do what we hope he all did not. It is what it is.

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Hey everybody, long time lurker that finally decided to register here. My dad was a Seahawks fan also and love going to games when it was still Qwest.

Unfortunately for Sherman, I am sure that NFLN and every other NFL applicable twitter account follows him just like most if not all the other players and coaches. So just because we haven't seen the report of this broken on TV yet doesn't mean that it won't soon, especially after all the hub blub that the reinstatement of Sean Payton attracted.

Doesn't look good for Richard Sherman I am afraid!


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It's not a violation for NFL players to bet on other games. There's no issue here

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The guy that was taking the bet screwed up. It was supposed to be for Richard Herman.



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This is Richard Sherman. He is toying around. The guy hasn't said anything other than he is in Vegas, winning money and his next tweet said "a lot",

It didn't say "I placed money on the Ravens" or anything close to that. He is just playing around and even the media isn't really biting on it.

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