Sturm wrote:How about he just plays out the goddam contract he signed.
mikeak wrote:v1rotv2 wrote:This particular contract issue (rookie salary cap) is all on the players, 100% of it. The vets wanted more money and the highly paid rookies were not living up to their premium contracts. Smith did exactly what his players wanted.
1) you missed the part that rookies subject to this didn't have a vote...
2) You don't think the owners pushed for this?lol. Of course they did. Look at Bradford's contract and it is a joke
They simply went to far. A RB may have two three great years, suffer for life an never getthe second deal
Hawknballs wrote:A few points/theories:
Would it be incredibly out of the question for Wilson's agent to at least bring the subject up with the Seahawks FO to simply keep dialogue open either regarding the future, or just in case any rules change in the offseason/future offseasons? These agents make money from new contracts, and I don't expect they like to sit around just 'hoping' everything works itself out. An inquiry and 'touching base' about the situation simply because that's part of your job doesn't seem entirely unreasonable. Is the Agent just supposed to sit around for 3 seasons without doing his due-diligence in managing his clients?
These agents are experts at what they do; their entire livelyhood is based around this information so the idea that he simply 'didn't know' is obviously a joke.
The idea that Russell Wilson is standing outside paul allens office waiting for a hand out is equally ridiculous.
Russell Wilson is an investment for this agent; the idea that he isn't at least touching base about the contract and communicating in the best interest of any future deals or that if he is touching base about it, it's because he's clueless or RW is greedy is retarded.
Sometimes the media and fans need to grow up a bit and use their big-boy perspective on things.
v1rotv2 wrote:mikeak wrote:v1rotv2 wrote:This particular contract issue (rookie salary cap) is all on the players, 100% of it. The vets wanted more money and the highly paid rookies were not living up to their premium contracts. Smith did exactly what his players wanted.
1) you missed the part that rookies subject to this didn't have a vote...
2) You don't think the owners pushed for this?lol. Of course they did. Look at Bradford's contract and it is a joke
They simply went to far. A RB may have two three great years, suffer for life an never getthe second deal
1.) you missed the part when I said 100% on the players I did not say on 100% of the players. But remember this NFLPA could care less about future players. They know that it's the current players that pay the dues. It's those players that wanted a redistribution of the player share of revenue.
2.) Obviously you paid no attention to the contract agreement between the League and the NFLPA. The owners are required to pay out over 90% of the money they no longer have to pay to the rookies. That's how the NFLPA guaranteed the vets they would get the money. So basically it was a wash for the owners. The one benefit they get out of the deal is that rookie hold outs now are pretty much a thing of the past.
As far the RB that gets injured during his rookie contract that's life and it happens everyday to the millions of regular working folks. I bet the rookies look at disability insurance in a new light now.
CANHawk wrote:Well, hopefully some of his teammates can pitch in and buy him some new suits. Maybe set him up with a decent tailor.
pehawk wrote:It's REALLY messed up in a sport where careers can end in a second, with no guarenteed contracts, there's rules NOT allowing renegotiations.
AbsolutNET wrote:Brian McIntyre @brian_mcintyre
RT @SI_PeterKing: Russell Wilson to me: "I speak for myself. I never demanded or asked for a restructured contract." More in my Tues column.
Russell Wilson says he hasn't asked for, and won't ask for, a new contract. Chris Mortensen reported that a representative of Wilson's reached out to the Seahawks and asked that his contract be modified in the way of his terrific rookie season, capped off by his 385-yard passing performance in a 30-28 playoff loss to Atlanta. Wilson reached out to me this morning to say: "I speak for myself, and I never demanded or asked for a restructured contract ... I have complete understanding and respect for the new CBA rules ... Anyone who knows me knows I play for the love of the game. I play for the challenge of being the best one day and know I have a long way to go.'' The CBA Wilson refers to is the Collective Bargaining Agreement, signed in July 2011, which mandates that rookies' contracts for draft choices not be "renegotiated, amended or altered in any way'' until after the final game of the player's third season. Wilson, a third-round pick in 2012 of the Seahawks, will make $527,000 and $662,000 over the next two seasons, and then, early in 2014, could get a commensurate payday from the Seahawks. But not until then. "I respect the NFL, respect the new CBA, respect my teammates, respect all of the other players across the league, and respect the Seattle Seahawks,'' Wilson added. So that puts a lid on that.
Sgt. Largent wrote:pehawk wrote:It's REALLY messed up in a sport where careers can end in a second, with no guarenteed contracts, there's rules NOT allowing renegotiations.
This is the CBA the player's association bargained.
On the flip side, it's also messed up that the Jets have to pay Mark Sanchez 9 million more dollars to stink it up next year.
mikeak wrote:Sgt. Largent wrote:pehawk wrote:It's REALLY messed up in a sport where careers can end in a second, with no guarenteed contracts, there's rules NOT allowing renegotiations.
This is the CBA the player's association bargained.
On the flip side, it's also messed up that the Jets have to pay Mark Sanchez 9 million more dollars to stink it up next year.
That is in the contract that the Jets negotiated LAST YEAR. I mean if you are dumb enough to do that negotiation then you deserve what you got. This wasn't some unproven rookie this was a guy within their organization that they knew everything about.
We aren't going to give Trufant a $35 million 5 year contract at this point. If we did nobody would feel that it was messed up that we had to pay it right?
semiahmoo wrote:I'll say it again - this is Pete's last season in Seattle if the teams doesn't make a legit hard run deep into the playoffs.
Jerhawk wrote:Let's transition tag him when his rookie contract is up. That always works
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