Quite possibly one of the best action movies of all time, and not because it's good in a Die Hard kind of way.

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True...I actually wouldn't mind Te'o on the team. I just find this story incredibly sad, and honestly, really funny.

Manti Te'o news reaches Taiwan

You want to know what else is offensive? The fact the term "catfish" is being used. I was SO pissed off watching that, I thought it was real heading into it. 5 minutes in, I was livid and threw a lil tantrum over it.

Catfish wasn't real either, assholes.

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http://m.deadspin.com/5977243/newspaper ... socialflow

Lmaooooooo keep this clown off my team, bro!

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No, you can't bring a jackass like this into the locker room. Guys won't respect him now, and any mistake will be amplified by the fans. Would much rather have a guy like Vontae then this clown. At least a guy who is to emotional can grow up, but a guy who lies for attention to the country is just creepy.

One of the things NFL GMs often do that I don't believe in is completely removing players from their boards. That's how Tom Brady goes in the 6th round. That's how Russell Wilson reaches the 3rd round. I think if there is some feature you really don't care for, but the talent is there, you knock them down several rounds, but you never rule them out. Generally speaking.

I would rule out Manti Te'o. If I was a GM, I would not even call him in UDFA. Scott has already said it better than I could, Te'o shows all the signs of a future cancer, and his lack of accountability could effect his ability to grow as an NFL player. Maybe he'll end up a pro-bowler for some other team, but to me the risk is simply not worth it.

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We have dudes that robbed drug dealers on our team..... Teo is a sissy.

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"Mr Te'o, hi, Mike Brown here....welcome to the Bengals"

To pile on kearly, the Bengals are managing their team by targeting these types. Allows Brown to hold the financial leverage. Makes sense when you're a farm team, competing in the pros. Total sense.

I was surprised they didn't take Polk, actually.

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The locker room is gonna react in a more favorable manner to Irvin than they would to someone who's lied for national attention.

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Who would you be willing to mess with? Dude that robs drug dealers with dreads that look like he was homeless for years or dude that is clean cut and can't get chicks.

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"??? How do you know he's awful? We've seen the guy play 2 regular season games." -SoulfishHawk
"16 starts in 9 years is all you need to know." - Tsizzle
"OMFG! LOL! Are you for real?" -ivotuk

Fact is over half our player grew up with guys worse then Irvin, most didn't have the luxury of lying about fake girlfriends. They where busy with real life.

I found an interview with Te'o discussing the loss. Is it just me, or is he trying to use this to get kooter?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7NBHpBqkpg

So, according to a dorm mate, he scyped his family on a laptop. He no scype supposed hoaxster?

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http://jukeleft.com/exclusive-jukeleft- ... nay-kekua/

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Ummm 100% false.

Signed someone who was raised a Mormon, still is a Mormon, has Mormon kids, and am a 5th generation Mormon. I got a bad GPA, wasn't in scouts, got kicked out of high school, never did volunteer work, and never had a problem with friends, parents, getting a job, getting into college, etc.

I think every culture and community has their own standards for what they expect. Mormons are just normal people. There are no FORCED anything. Just as in all cultures, there are norms and mores that are common and TYPICAL, but there is no coercement to do anything. I always find it hilarious when people who are so "well versed" in Mormonism talk about the "requirement" to go on a mission. It's 100% optional. Only about half go. They pay their own way. Nobody is required. It isn't a bad thing as I think a lot of kids grow up a lot when they go. But not going has no impact on your standing in the church. I didn't go. I am still given all of the rights and privileges of every other Mormon, including my brothers who served missions.

There is cultural pressure in every culture. I have yet to find a requirement though. Suggestions? Sure. Lots of things are suggested for people's own benefit in each culture and religion. That is how the religion sees them anyway. I've never seen anybody get punished in any way, shape or form for the things you mention above. If you felt pressure to do good in your life, then that's pretty much par for the course in EVERY religion.

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Exactly, plus the fact that Irvin was able to turn his life around, its gonna get you more respect in that locker room than I believe Manti Te'o would ever get in a locker room

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Looks like the whole "Manti was complicit" thing is unraveling. I wonder how people's opinions of him change. It looks like he was dumb to get reeled in, but it also looks like it was pretty elaborate as they did have a girl do the talking and so on. I know a girl who this same exact scam happened to. For all I know, the same people pulled it on her. It wouldn't surprise me. She bought plane tickets to go to SoCal multiple times to see her "boyfriend" only to be told that he got called away on work and so on. Then he also got "leukemia" and up and died. She got a call from his "brother" ending the relationship.

What did they get out of it? She wasn't a "somebody" like Manti Te'o. They just liked screwing around with people's heads. They like to mess with people. They think it's funny. It is like the ultimate long con and it costs the person on the other end all of their time, effort, and even money, and they end up screwed over. You'll see this crap from bitter people a lot.

This girl was my friend, and I had to unravel the whole thing for her. In the end she STILL believed her "soulmate" was dead. I put in a good 20 hours or so collecting documents and stuff proving that it was all a lie, that her "boyfriend" never existed, that he never had played baseball at San Diego State, and all kinds of stuff. She was devastated and embarrassed and ultimately decided she couldn't be MY friend anymore because I was here ripping down her dead "fiance'" and I had no class. Of course a couple of years later she talked to me again, but literally... she was angry at me over it, because she couldn't be angry at anybody else, as she couldn't even track down who she was supposed to be mad at. They used those burner phones from Wal-mart, they used made up email addresses, they even had a mail box at a Mail Boxes Etc. to run their scam. They weren't looking for money or anything. They were just seeing if they could jerk somebody around for fun.

I think if anybody is a psycho here it's the Tuiasasopo kid, and Te'o is just his usual knucklehead/immature self that didn't figure it out until it was too late, because he saw a picture of a hot girl, and figured he'd get his NFL contract, they'd get married, and live happily ever after. I honestly believe that now, and it would be ideal for a Mormon kid to do so, because by having a long distance relationship, he avoids all of the pitfalls that would lead to a wedding that the family might not like as much (LDS lesson for the day... there is a difference between a "temple wedding" and a "civil ceremony"... Manti is pretty devout at this point, and I know his family would prefer he have a temple wedding. Anybody can get married in the temple, but to get a temple "recommend" you have to be able to answer a few basic questions and be prepared to go... you don't HAVE to get married in the temple, but parents really love it if you do and it is the preferred way. If you're already having kids together and stuff you can't get married in the temple, but you can go together and have a ceremony later and become "sealed" in the temple which has the same effect. That's what my wife and I and our children are doing and we are very excited about it, as we just had a civil ceremony one summer when we were in our mid-20's and realized that we were best friends and we made a good couple).

So anyway, I think the fact that this kid got duped is something that teammates may make fun of him about, but I am at a point where I won't question his motives unless some real damning stuff comes out. I think he got tricked quite honestly, and I also think he's a good football player and will continue to root for him in life and on the field. I saw what happened to my friend and how despondent she was and I wouldn't wish that on anybody. Thankfully for her she met a nice guy a couple of years ago and they are now married and have 2 cute kids and are happy. I don't speak to her much, but when I do, I don't mention that situation because it sets her off. Which I thought was funny for a while, but now realize how much it just destroyed her self-esteem.

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